We originally planned to talk with Charlie Pierce, who's at the Democratic convention right now. Not sure what happened but he never showed for our talk, so thankfully our friend Cliff Schecter was available to step in to discuss all things DNC. Make sure to subscribe to his YouTube channel, Cliff's Edge – hit that like button under his videos, and make sure to smash the notifications bell, etc.Meantime, make sure to support this podcast by subscribing at patreon.com/bobcescashow. Music by Matt Jaffe.

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