Clifford:  My dad suggested conversion therapy and I let him sit with that idea, I was literally the first gay person he knew.

Clifford is our first sapio sexual storyteller.  A real world citizen, he is of Indian heritage, had a Catholic upbringing in Dubai in now lives in Australia.

He speaks about what being sapio sexual means to him and how his family reacted to his coming out as gay.

Presented by Emma Goswell

Produced by Sam Walker

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