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(Note: I had to record on Zoom and the audio quality isn't the greatest. Sorry about that!)

In this podcast episode, Matt and Clifton discuss Clifton's role as a web expert and his journey with WordPress. 

They talk about Clifton's YouTube channel and his approach to teaching WordPress step by step. They also touch on the evolution of website building using WordPress, the benefits of themes like StudioPress, and the introduction of Gutenberg. They discuss the future of WordPress, the concerns of agency owners, and the power of the WordPress developer ecosystem. Clifton shares his motivation for creating educational videos on his YouTube channel and his plans for the future. They also discuss video production techniques and the importance of prioritizing education in content creation.