When Bryn Gunn received the 'thumbs-up' signal from Brian Clough, along with "Well done, young Gunn," he felt six-feet tall.

In this trailer for the full interview, Bryn recalls working for the unpredictable Clough at Nottingham Forest, where the young defender was part of the European Cup winning side in 1980.

Says Bryn: "Some people need wrapping up in cotton wool, some need a rollicking. But that's why he was so good. He knew what to do."

During this entertaining chat with pod host Marcus Alton, you'll also hear what happened when the full-back gave away a penalty in a friendly match. "Cloughie doesn't miss a trick," recalls Bryn.