In this episode we dive into the archives to present an interview with the renowned clown teacher Ronlin Foreman. Known for his provocative ideas and unique approach to clowning, Ronlin discusses the fundamental nature of clowns as paradoxical figures who provoke laughter through authenticity rather than gimmicks or jokes. The conversation also explores Rolin's teaching philosophy, which emphasizes student intuition and the importance of suffering for meaningful learning. Additionally, Ronlin shares insights on the pedagogical use of 'falling' to teach about failure and resilience, his views on ensemble work as a metaphor for community, and the significance of engaging with the unknown in clowning. The episode concludes with a reminder about the upcoming Clownvergence event, set to be the largest online clown conference ever.

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