This week Lindsey is sick so y'all get Sam ( my dog)  and I. We thought everyone could use a pallet cleanser this week, so we give you a little history about Smokey Bear.  Did you know that Smokey Bear was part of wartime propaganda? Did you know that for years there was a bear that was the live version of Smokey Bear?  Did you know that he has his own Twitter feed? Well, come listen and learn all about this and more this week as we dive into the story behind the iconic Smokey Bear. 

References used for this week's episode. 

 Forest Service 

https://www.fs.usda.gov/features/story-smokey-bear

Smithsonian

https://siarchives.si.edu/history/featured-topics/pictures/smokey-bear

Smokey Bear National Park

https://www.emnrd.nm.gov/sfd/smokey-bear-historical-park/

Smithsonian

https://siarchives.si.edu/history/smokey-bear

History channel 

https://www.history.com/news/smokey-bear-wwii-origins

Hey y'all sorry for the late release of this episode but I wasn't feeling well on Tuesday and my birthday was Wednesday so I didn't have to get it edited and out but it's ready now.

This week Lindsey will be taking us to Illinois where we will meet some shady suspects in the murder of a young child and two women in their home. This case talks about the death of a small child so if that's not something you want to hear wait till next week to listen. We will have a light-hearted case. At least not one that involves the death of a minor.  I hope you all have a great week. 

This week we will be heading back out to the wilderness to hear about two more wilderness camps. If you didn't like last week you're really not going to like this week because you find just how easy it is for these camps to elude justice. But we will see the closure of another camp and learn about some of the regulations that are placed not these camps. We will also learn the heartbreaking truth that there are just not enough regulations placed on the camps to make the run effectively. So buckle up and come along with us to a world of pure depravity as we journey back into the wilderness and back to camp.

References for wilderness therapy programs Episode 

Bob Bacon's Testimony
http://astartforteens.org/assets/files/Testimony%20of%20Bob%20Bacon%202007.pdf

Death in the Desert.

 https://www.apmreports.org/story/2022/04/05/how-utah-leads-nation-troubled-teens#:~:text=Utah's%20squeaky%2Dclean%20reputation&text=School%20officials%20developed%20a%20course,wilderness%20therapy%20industry%20was%20born

Tough love proves to tough.

https://www.hcn.org/issues/61/1912

Losing Erica: Cynthia Clark Harvey Doesn’t want anyone else’s child to die in wilderness therapy Programs.

https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/losing-erica-cynthia-clark-harvey-doesnt-want-anyone-elses-child-to-die-in-a-wilderness-therapy-program-6431310

Body of teen from local camp found. 

https://www.transylvaniatimes.com/news/body-of-teen-from-local-camp-found---brevard-nc/article_725dbe4e-ac4b-548a-a7cf-447ffc3f2bd6.html

Utah wilderness therapy deaths

https://archive.sltrib.com/story.php?ref=/news/ci_7139316

Press Release from Trails Carolina

https://strugglingteens.com/news/cfpressrelease.html

The fight against the insidious in-patient programs promising to help troubled teens.

https://www.parents.com/health/the-fight-against-the-insidious-in-patient-programs-promising-to-help-troubled-teens/

Find a grave

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/139397332/alec-sanford-lansing

Mother never the same after Child’s death

https://www.ocala.com/story/news/2005/12/01/mom-never-the-same-after-childs-death/64274276007/

Dying Boy in North Star talked of Kin, girlfriend, witnesses say.

https://www.deseret.com/1995/5/24/19214258/dying-boy-in-north-star-spoke-of-kin-girlfriend-witness-says

Dangerous Discipline 

https://www.apa.org/monitor/dec07/dangerous.html

Disability memorial

https://disabilitymemorial.tumblr.com/post/126747559967/michael-wiltsie

This is part one of our look into Wilderness therapy programs. There is a disclaimer for this episode. There is talk of abuse of a minor and also the death of a child. So if this is not something you feel comfortable listening to please join us in two weeks because this is a two-part episode.   We will look at how they start.  How they became what they are today. I will remind everyone not to blame the parents because it's not their fault. They had no clue what was going to happen. We will also look into the death of Aaron Bacon and what happened to him in the wilderness.  Come with us to a world of pure depravity as we look into wilderness therapy programs this week. You can email us at [email protected] if you have any requests thoughts or comments or if you just want to say hi. We would love to hear from you.

References for wilderness therapy programs Episode
Death in the Desert.
 https://www.apmreports.org/story/2022/04/05/how-utah-leads-nation-troubled-teens#:~:text=Utah's%20squeaky%2Dclean%20reputation&text=School%20officials%20developed%20a%20course,wilderness%20therapy%20industry%20was%20born

Tough love proves to tough.
https://www.hcn.org/issues/61/1912

Losing Erica: Cynthia Clark Harvey Doesn’t want anyone else’s child to die in wilderness therapy Programs.
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/losing-erica-cynthia-clark-harvey-doesnt-want-anyone-elses-child-to-die-in-a-wilderness-therapy-program-6431310

Body of teen from local camp found.
https://www.transylvaniatimes.com/news/body-of-teen-from-local-camp-found---brevard-nc/article_725dbe4e-ac4b-548a-a7cf-447ffc3f2bd6.html

Utah wilderness therapy deaths

https://archive.sltrib.com/story.php?ref=/news/ci_7139316

Press Release from Trails Carolina

https://strugglingteens.com/news/cfpressrelease.html

The fight against the insidious in-patient programs promising to help troubled teens.

https://www.parents.com/health/the-fight-against-the-insidious-in-patient-programs-promising-to-help-troubled-teens/

Find a grave
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/139397332/alec-sanford-lansing

 Mother never the same after Child’s death

https://www.ocala.com/story/news/2005/12/01/mom-never-the-same-after-childs-death/64274276007/

Dying Boy in North Star talked of Kin, girlfriend, witnesses say.

https://www.deseret.com/1995/5/24/19214258/dying-boy-in-north-star-spoke-of-kin-girlfriend-witness-says

Dangerous Discipline 

https://www.apa.org/monitor/dec07/dangerous.html

Disability memorial

https://disabilitymem

Four bodies would be found. A small Washington State town would be left to wonder what had happened in their town. Could the killer have been an angry lover, a serial killer, or a murderous couple? Well, come along with us to this world of depravity as we look into the death of four people one of which could very well be the killer themselves.  In this case, we look at the killings of Steven Harkins, Ruth Cooper, Diana Robertson, and Mike Reimer.  We will look at the suspects. We hope you enjoy this week's episode and see you next week for an episode on Wilderness Therapy Camps.


Show notes
Mineral Washington Murders
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral,_Washington_murders

 YouTube Season 6 Episode 20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z63xLGe36F4

 Unsovled.com
https://unsolved.com/gallery/diana-robertson/

 Front Page Detectives
https://www.frontpagedetectives.com/p/washington-murder-cold-case-tube-sock-killings

This week we will be looking into the case of Christina Grimmie. She was a fun energetic 22-year-old singer. She was in the Voice in 2014 on Team Adam. She came in at number three in the competition. We will learn of her unfortunate death, the person who took her life, and then his own. So I hope you will join us as we learn more about a fan-obsessed murder. And as always you can leave us an email at [email protected] if you would like to get in touch with us. 

 

Christina Grimmie page

https://christinagrimmie.com/

https://christinagrimmie.com/about/

The man who shot Christina Grimmie

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/gunman-who-killed-voice-singer-christina-grimmie-id-d-kevin-n590316

Christina Grimmie killer was obsessed. 

https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/22/us/christina-grimmie-the-voice-orlando-police-end-investigation/index.html

Christian Grimmie Foundation Link

https://christinagrimmiefoundation.org/about-us/?gclid=CjwKCAjwxOymBhAFEiwAnodBLB2kxr45e4GjUDtJYoOW04D1OThRsgfYAwvU8LtuJlqjLc6EDCcJcRoCW5cQAvD_BwE

For your first full episode, we cover the murder of Bella Wright. Or as some may know it and as dubbed by the press of her time The Green Bicycle Murder.  The year is 1919 and we find ourselves in England. To many, this is a 104-year-old unsolved case. However, have a listen and see what you think. Is it an unsolved case or did the right man get away with murder? Let us know what you think.  Also please bear with us as we are still learning to do all of this. Thank you if you like it please leave a five-star review and rating. 

Here are the articles that I found about this case.

·         The Green Bicycle Case: The Murder of Bella Wright in 1919

-          https://www.crimetraveller.org/2015/09/green-bicycle-case-bella-wright-murder/

·         The Green Bicycle Cases: Bella Wright

-          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bicycle_Case

·         YouTube Video

-          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ir-VWP03zw

·         The Green Bicycle cases: Did Ronald Light do it?

-          https://www.historicmysteries.com/green-bicycle-case/

·         The Green Bicycle Murder Mystery: The Death of Bella Wright

-          https://thecrimewire.com/true-crime/The-Green-Bicycle-Mystery

·         The Man with the Green Bicycle: 100-year-old unsolved murder of Bella Wright. 

-          https://the-line-up.com/bella-wright-green-bicycle-case

·         Cold Cases Jury

-          https://www.coldcasejury.com/case04/mainchars.asp

·         Class Mattered The Murder Of Bella Wright 

-          https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/murdered-bella-wright-class-matters-case-green-bicycle-article-1.466450

·         The green bicycle murder: A case worthy of Sherlock Homes

-          https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-48838818

·         The green river murder mystery or Bella Wright

-          https://thecrimewire.com/true-crime/The-Green-Bicycle-Mystery

We talk a little about who we are and why we started the podcast. We also talk about some of the cases we will cover in this podcast's future. Like a case that involves fruitcake. Or a  cold case that I'm working to solve maybe before the episode comes out. So come along with us to a world of pure human depravity. As we look into some lesser-known cases and some cases that you will have heard of just told to you by two Texas friends. We hope y'all like what you hear and come back for our first full episode when it's released. Thanks and have a great day! Pamela and Lindsey