Susan Cox Powell disappeared 15 years ago. The day after she turned up missing, her four-year-old son Charlie Powell spoke to a detective from the West Valley City, Utah police department. Charlie told the detective his mommy had joined him, his little brother Braden and their dad, Susan’s husband Josh Powell, on a camping trip. But Charlie also said Susan didn’t come home. She stayed “where the crystals are.” In this special bonus episode, we explore what Charlie was trying to tell us about Susan’s fate. We also speak with forensic interview specialist Brianna Martinez about how the approach to interviewing kids has changed over the last 15 years.

For years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

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Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production and mastering: Ben Kuebrich
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson

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Police in West Valley City, Utah found a charred clump of metal hidden in the back of Josh Powell’s minivan on the day after Susan Powell first came up missing. They suspected it was evidence, but could never identify it. Now, on the 15th anniversary of Susan’s disappearance, we reveal the likely origin of that mystery metal evidence. In this special bonus episode, you’ll also hear from Andrew Robinson, a witness who’s never before spoken publicly about what he saw in the days before Susan vanished.

For years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/mystery-metal-transcript/

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Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Andrea Smardon
• Audio mixing and mastering: Ben Kuebrich
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson

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The man who killed Joyce Yost wins a major victory in court, seeing his death sentence overturned for a second time. It all boils down to one line of questioning at Doug Lovell's 2015 trial. Cold host Dave Cawley attended oral arguments before the Utah Supreme Court and discusses the stunning decision with Talking COLD's Amy Donaldson.

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COLD discovers an odd rock pile in the mountains. It looks like a possible grave. Detectives head into the hills, believing the rock pile could hold evidence related to the disappearance of Sheree Warren. In this bonus episode of COLD season 3, you’ll join investigative journalist Dave Cawley on the mountain near Utah’s Causey Reservoir and hear exactly what happened as detectives and CSI excavated beneath the rocks.

Season 3 of Cold includes descriptions of rape, sexual assault, murder and domestic violence. Please take care when listening. Free resources for escaping domestic abuse are available at thehotline.org. Support and tools for survivors of sexual violence can be found at rainn.org.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-3-transcript/causey-search-full-transcript/

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Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Aaron Mason
• Audio mixing: Ben Kuebrich
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Additional scoring: Allison Leyton-Brown
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood

If you enjoy Cold, please try these other great shows from KSL Podcasts: The Letter, Ransom, Unsolved Histories

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Ten years before Sheree Warren disappeared, another young mother vanished from her workplace in the suburbs of Ogden, Utah. Nancy Perry Baird’s case shares many similarities with Sheree Warren’s. Both were young mothers, recently divorced, working to support themselves. Police in both cases theorized a serial killer might be responsible. To this day, many of Nancy Baird's own relatives believe Ted Bundy abducted and killed her; a claim Bundy denied.

Cold has obtained exclusive access to the Nancy Baird case files. In this bonus episode of Cold season 3, journalist and host Dave Cawley uncovers new evidence that illuminates Ted Bundy’s role in Nancy’s disappearance.

Season 3 of Cold includes descriptions of rape, sexual assault, murder and domestic violence. Please take care when listening. Free resources for escaping domestic abuse are available at thehotline.org. Support and tools for survivors of sexual violence can be found at rainn.org.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-3-transcript/ted-bundy-convenient-alternative-full-transcript/

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Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Aaron Mason
• Audio mixing: Ben Kuebrich
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Additional scoring: Allison Leyton-Brown
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood

If you enjoy Cold, please try these other great shows from KSL Podcasts: The Letter, Ransom, Unsolved Histories

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Amy and Sheryl sit down with Cold host and investigative reporter Dave Cawley to ask him your burning questions about Cold season 3, The Search for Sheree Warren. What about the jacket Sheree was wearing? And why didn’t police look harder at the last known person to see Sheree before she disappeared? Amy and Sheryl also discuss ethical questions with Associate Professor of Journalism at Weber State University, Dr. Jean Norman.

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If you get an unsolicited sexual call or nude picture sent to you, is that a crime? You may be surprised by the answer. One of the suspects in the disappearance of Sheree Warren in 1985 was caught making lewd phone calls to women multiple times. Do these types of crimes often escalate to other, more aggressive behaviors? Joining hosts Amy Donaldson & Sheryl Worsley for the discussion on this edition of Talking Cold: prosecutor and division director of the Salt Lake County Special Victims Unit Anna Rossi Anderson and former FBI profiler and host of the Killer Psyche & Killer Psyche Daily podcasts, Candice DeLong.

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Who handles your case if you go missing or are murdered? Talking Cold is the after-show podcast that dives into the key issues raised in COLD. Season 3 of COLD tells the story of Sheree Warren, who disappeared from Salt Lake City, Utah in 1985. Her case remains unsolved today, partially because of police squabbles over jurisdiction. Talking Cold hosts Amy Donaldson and Sheryl Worsley ask retired Salt Lake County Sheriff Aaron Kennard and former Roy, Utah police chief Carl Merino why police egos and invisible borders sometimes get in the way of solving crimes.

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Thanks for listening to season three of COLD, we hope you enjoyed it. If you did, there’s another podcast we think you should check out called Killer Psyche.

On Killer Psyche, retired FBI agent Candice DeLong draws on her decades of experience to reveal why these murderers and criminals committed these acts. She will reveal fascinating new details about what drove these people, including cases she was close to. Candice will share specific psychological methods and profiling techniques that experts use to understand the deepest part of the most complex, fascinating, and twisted minds, from the Unabomber to Dr. Death to El Chapo.

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Cary Hartmann returns to Ogden after leaving prison, only to face fresh suspicion. Charles Warren’s health declines, leaving him unable to clear up lingering questions. The Cold team pieces together the evidence to provide the most likely scenario in the unsolved cold case disappearance of Sheree Warren.

Season 3 of Cold includes descriptions of rape, sexual assault, murder and domestic violence. Please take care when listening. Free resources for escaping domestic abuse are available at thehotline.org. Support and tools for survivors of sexual violence can be found at rainn.org.

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Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-3-transcript/last-man-standing-full-transcript/

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Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Ben Kuebrich
• Audio mixing: Ben Kuebrich
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Additional scoring: Allison Leyton-Brown
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood

If you enjoy Cold, please try these other great shows from KSL Podcasts: The Letter, Ransom, Unsolved Histories

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