In this episode of Cold Red, Ray Carr and Fitz discuss their thoughts on how the FBI is portrayed in movies and television shows. They mention that some shows depict FBI agents as superheroes who never make mistakes, while others portray them as complete assholes. They also discuss the importance of accuracy in portraying FBI protocols and policies. Additionally, they share personal stories from their time in the FBI and discuss the challenges and excitement of working on bank robbery cases. The conversation then shifts to a discussion about protests on college campuses and the need for informed decision-making. They also recommend the TV show ’American Nightmare’ and briefly discuss the Menendez brothers’ case. In this conversation, Fitz and Ray discuss various topics related to crime and law enforcement. They touch on cases of individuals who committed crimes due to abuse, the concept of mitigating circumstances, and the possibility of having one of these individuals as a guest on their podcast. They also talk about CrimeCon, a symposium for true crime podcasts, and their experiences as expert witnesses in court. They share their thoughts on balancing work and family life, the most dangerous places to live in the United States and the world, and the importance of being aware of your surroundings.