ColdFusion Alive

Gavin Pickin talks about “Into The Box ColdFusion Conference 2022 (new details revealed) ” in this episode of ColdFusion Alive Podcast with host Michaela Light.

Your community 20% discount code is: TERAITB20 

You can use it either for just the conference, or 

the full access pass (Conference+Workshop)

"...with the [ITB] conference, it's a great way to look at a lot of different things. ...usually people have heard of ColdBox, it's the biggest of the three MVC frameworks still left in ColdFusion, (according to the ... state of the CF Union survey). Framework One is still up there, but it doesn't have the same support now that Sean Corefield moved on, and then CFwheels has been revived in that doing well, too..."

Show notes

What is Into The Box conference?

Started with ColdBox Developer Week, then Ortus Developer Week.

2022 is the 9th edition.

Started as a pre-conference before CFObjective

Houston 2016 was the first ITB standing on it’s own legs without piggy backing onto another Conference.

1 day before a 3 day conference was tough, we moved so we could get 2 days.

We have PLENTY to TALK ABOUT - so didn’t take us long to need more than 2 days in our own conference.

Box products and general CF topics

Why did we need our own conference?

Made a name for ourselves at Ortus at first with Documentation, and now through tools

Great way to network as a Professional Open Source company, meeting clients and our contributors.

ColdFusion as a whole, likes to keep most talks framework agnostic, so we needed our own conference to show all of the content we get demands for.

Every year is improving.

Great response when we offered one day workshops, and in the past even 2 days of workshops, plus 2 days of the conference, 4 great days of content, and the attendees loved it.

And ITs GROWN AND GROWN until this year’s conference, and it looks like the best one yet!!!!!!!

Why ITB?

Advantages for our company

If given the chance to attend the conference, it will help our company to:

Learn from ColdFusion industry leaders and Ortus core team members.

Inspire new ideas to use on projects within our company.

We will catch more bugs with improved testing practices earlier, costing us less money in support and maintenance.

Learn more about Package Management with ForgeBox and CommandBox, to better utilize community libraries, so we don’t have to reinvent the wheel all the time.

All Into the Box Attendees get a free month of CFCasts.com - Ortus’ great online video training website.

All of the Into the Box Videos will be made available after the conference for attendees, so we can watch all of the sessions, even the sessions we missed in person.

Advantages for you

As far as why I’m excited at the prospect of attending this conference:

There’s an impressive line-up of experts who are working with technologies, tools, and methodologies we use daily.

Hands-on workshops with experts allow me to learn new practices and techniques and improve my skills.

The friendly, intimate spirit of the conference makes it easy to interact with speakers and ask questions.

As the conference attracts seasoned developers, I’m excited to learn from everyone and discover their experiences and best practices from their projects.

The ColdFusion/CFML-related technology is changing rapidly; it’s essential to learn what’s possible and current in the ecosystem and dive deeper into those areas we need to explore.

Opportunity to network with other ColdFusion developers.

Pre-Conf Speakers

Michael Born

Matthew Clemente

Kai Koenig

Brian Rinaldi

Charlie Arehart

Mark Takata

Raymond Camden

In Person Speakers

Abram Adams

Brad Wood

Dan Card 

Daniel García 

Eric Peterson

Esmeralda Acevedo 

Gavin Pickin 

George Murphy 

Grant Copley 

Javier Quintero 

John Farrar 

Jon Clausen 

Luis Majano 

Nolan Erck 

Scott Steinbeck 

Seth Stone 

Shawn Oden

Preconference week online sessions

1 hours sessions online, downloadable for attendees, later in CFCasts

Cold Brews: Getting Started with Java in Your CFML Apps - Matthew Clemente

Meilisearch: A Search Platform for the Rest of Us - Michael Born

Modern ways to keep on top of crashes and errors in your applications - Kai Koenig

Feature Flagging is Just Simple Booleans: False - Brain Rinaldi

Comparing and contrasting Docker images from Ortus, Adobe, and Lucee - Charlie Arehart 

Advanced Manipulation of PDF Documents using Adobe ColdFusion DDX - Mark Takata

Extending PDF Capabilities With Adobe Document Services - Raymond Camden

+ 3 more sessions TBA

Full day Workshops day before

Tuesday

10-15 attendee limit for hands on help - bring your laptop with you to learn in the class.

Luis Majano & Eric Peterson | Async Programming & Scheduling

Jon Clausen & Grant Copley | Containerizing & Scaling Your Applications

Dan Card & Alan Quinlan | Legacy Code Conversion To The Modern World!

Brad Wood & Javi Quintero | TestBox: Getting started with BDD-TDD Oh My!

Gavin Pickin & Daniel Garcia | VueJs SPA and Mobile App with Rest APIs

In-person Community Speakers and Sessions

Scott Steinbeck | Advanced pdf generation + Building a gitbook markdown conversion process & Building Modules

Nolan Erck | Web Components in Your CFML Application & I'm Still Scared of Aspect Oriented Programming!

Abram Adams | Khaos - A CommandBox Module for DevOps

Seth Stone | Quick Start for CI/CD Automation on AWS

Shawn Oden | I'm Just Here For The T-Shirt

In Person Ortus Speakers and Sessions

Luis Majano and Grant Copley | cbfs: Abstract, Extend, Integrate Any File System

Brad Wood | Securing and Tuning CommandBox Servers for production

Jon Clausen | cbCommerce - A flexible, modular e-commerce solution

Grant Copley | Sublime Reactivity with CBWIRE

Daniel Garcia | Alpine.js : Declare and React!

Dan Card | Unpacking The Box - Why so many boxes and what do they do?????

Luis Majano | To the future with cbFutures!

Brad Wood | ColdBox Task Scheduling Demystified

Jon Clausen | Building Collaborative Applications with Websockets and MQ Services

Eric Peterson | cbq — Jobs and Tasks in the Background

Eric Peterson | cbPlaywright — End-to-End Tests with Playwright and TestBox

Gavin Pickin | Building a CFML API powered Quiz Game with VueJS and deployed with SPA and Android + more

Esmeralda Acevedo and Javier Quintero - Off with their heads → ContentBox 5 : Headless CMS

Daniel Garcia | How to Debug Your CF Apps

Dan Card | What I learned about Mental Health from my computer and its network.

George Murphy | Configure ContentBox 5 In the Cloud the easy way

Registration

Register at https://www.intothebox.org/ 

Your community 20% discount code is: TERAITB20 

You can use it either for just the conference, or 

the full access pass (Conference+Workshop)

Code samples and slides - site, cfcasts, app

What are you excited about in CFML this year?

Adobe CF Summit post conf classes

ACF 2023 news

CF Builder VS Code

Lucee 6 beta

Travel

ITB is nearer to Houstin IAH airport at the Houston CityPlace Marriott at Springwoods Village

Special conference hotel room prices

Mentioned in this episode

Into The Box Conference official website 

Dear Amazing Boss - I would like to ask for your approval to attend Into The Box 2022

Announcing - Pre-Conference + 3rd Track for Into the Box

Using 3rd party ColdFusion libraries at work - 3 Meetup series 

Patreon Ortus Solutions

CFCasts episode

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Bio

Gavin Pickin

Software Consultant passionate about Building Better Businesses using CFML, JavaScript, VueJS, Docker, Training, Podcasts and sharing all my lessons learned

Gavin Pickin - Software Consultant for Ortus Solutions

Gavin started using ColdFusion in 1999 when working for the university of Auckland in New Zealand before moving to California. He has led teams, trained new developers and worked the full stack from graphic design, HTML and CSS JavaScript through ColdFusion MySQL and server administration.

Gavin has a passion for learning and cannot understand why the 9-5ers aren't listening to podcasts while changing diapers, watching video tutorials while cleaning baby bottles and folding clothes, or putting the kids to sleep with soothing phone gap mobile application cookbook recipes.

Links

Gavin Pickin (@gpickin) / Twitter

George “Gavin” Pickin | LinkedIn

ColdBox Zero to MegaHero Training After CF Summit - Oct 5th in Las Vegas

CFML News Modernize or Die podcast 

Interview transcript

Michaela Light 0:02

Welcome back to the show. I'm here with Gavin pickin from autists solutions. And we're gonna be talking all about into the box ColdFusion conference 2022. Lots of new things happening this year. And if you haven't been to enter the box before, you're going to learn why you should be going. Welcome, Gavin.

Gavin Pickin 0:22

Thank you for having me.

Michaela Light 0:24

It's nice to see you back on the show. And for those of you don't know, Gavin is a ColdFusion.

expert. He does all kinds of things JavaScript, Vue js, Docker. He does trainings and podcasts. In fact, he's one of the CO hosts of the modernize or die podcast along with Brad and a few other autistic Tony ins or whatever the correct phrase is for people what they think is the way they say, or Terzian Zoo. I love it. He's originally from New Zealand, but he's now a Californian. So welcome, Gavin.

Gavin Pickin 1:03

Thanks for having me. I appreciate the time. And yeah, it's good to be on the other side of the podcast once. Absolutely, yes, it's. So maybe we should answer for people who don't know who've been asleep for the last nine

Charlie Arehart, Gert Franz, Mark Drew and Ben Nadel talk about “ACF and Lucee roundtable (Part 3 - future CFML)” in this episode of ColdFusion Alive Podcast, with host Michaela Light.

"We're gonna be talking about Adobe ColdFusion and Lucee and how they compare and contrast and all cool new features coming in the next five years that we prognosticate future performance. Improvements might be coming CFML engine updates and how you can best approach those confusion security. And we'll wrap up with some other questions about being a good CFML developer and conferences this year.

Show notes 

Where do you see CFML (ACF and Lucee)  in the next 5 years

Future Features we want to add

Features we want to remove

PaaS, FaaS, Lambda

Better CF admin config 

Lucee 6

CFConfig and CommandBox

Engine Packages, cloud and microservices

AWS and other cloud provider reliability, multi-cloud

The persistent parallel thread that reliably run in the background

Event gateway without lots of code

Alt: Scheduled tasks and microservices 

Full Null support

Cfscript syntax ACF vs Lucee

Target tech

Front end - React, Angular, Vue, new one?

Intermittent internet access

Browsers and devices

Modern Eco-system

In some ways the ecosystem is as or more important than the actual language for programmer productivity 

Tools

IDE

Adobe CF VScode extension

Sneak preview session at cfdevweek: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTiPoRm0P04

AI/ML features

CFML

IDE

Lucee Page parts feature - speed of line execution

Better error handling - let it run type code - Erlang language

Code coverage, language feature coverage

FusionReactor line execution code tool

In general

Reliability and performance

Auto Scalable

Secure

Modern language features and ecosystem

Backward compatible CFML

Alive!

Learning CFML speed in 1 week 

See roundtable 2

Hiring CF dev vs cross-hire and train

Polyglot programmers

Tech fashion

Dev first vs CIO led PR and marketing

Gartner 

Audience

CF dev

Dev Ops

CIO and CEO 

Also teaching and increasing staff

Reducing dev stress

CFML Engine Updates

New version releases

Security hotfixes

Script your deployments

JSON based config

Docker images

ACF

Lucee

CommandBox ones

Charlie ITB conference pre-conf workshop

Why is it still wise to use CFML

WWIT to make CF more alive this year?

What is the next conference you are attending?

Mentioned in this episode

ACF and Lucee roundtable 1

ACF and Lucee roundtable 2

Lucee 6 features episode

Adobe Dev Week 2022 blog post

Language speed comparison - Lucee 2nd fastest - Brad Wood blog

ColdFusion is more modern than you realize - Charlie Arehart Dev Week talk

Implementing third-party CF libraries Gavin Pickin CF Meetup

Adobe VS Code CF code IDE extension

Ben’s blog

Brian Bockhold Dev Week session (Wed July 20, 1430)

“Exploring AWS Java SDK developer features using the Java integration implemented in ColdFusion 2021”

Let it fail code - Erlang language

Code coverage FusionReactor and TestBox

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Bio

Charlie Arehart

A veteran server troubleshooter who’s worked in enterprise IT for more than three decades, Charlie Arehart (@carehart) is a longtime community contributor who as an independent consultant provides short-term, remote, on-demand troubleshooting/tuning assistance for organizations of all sizes and experience levels (carehart.org/consulting).

Links

Twitter: https://twitter.com/carehart

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/carehart

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carehart

Web http://carehart.org/

Gert Franz

Gert was born in 1967 and lives in Switzerland since 1997. He is one of the key people behind Lucee. Back in the late eighties, he studied astrophysics in Munich but switched to later IT as a profession and programmed for several companies in the past as a database administrator and system analyst. Gert spoke a lot at all major conferences in the past and will for sure in the future. He is now a fellow at DistroKid.

Links

gert (at) rasia.ch

http://rasia.ch/

https://twitter.com/gert_rasia  

https://www.linkedin.com/in/gert-franz-4056807/ 

 

Mark Drew

Mark Drew has been programming CFML since 1996, and even though he has had forays into Perl, ASP and PHP he is still loving every line of code he has crafted with CFML. 

He has been a strong advocate for open source, having worked on CFEclipse, Railo and now Lucee as well as a number of other projects. He tries to create a pull request a day, to keep the bugs at bay.

By day he helps other developers as the lead devops engineer at DistroKid, making sure that the carefully crafted artesanal code goes from laptop to server in the shortest time whilst keeping all its flavour. By night he develops games with CMD:Studio. 

He has been known to do a podcast too! called the Localhost Podcast in which we talk all about the web. He also talks about the process of making games on the Level Design Podcast

Links

https://twitter.com/markdrew

https://www.linkedin.com/in/mdrew

CFML Slack

Mark (at) cmdhq.io

https://anchor.fm/leveldesign

https://localhost.fm/

Ben Nadel

Ben Nadel is the technical co-founder of InVision App, Inc - a digital product design platform used to make the world's best customer experiences. As the original CTO, Ben now spends his days as a Principal Engineer, leading maintenance and development efforts on InVision's legacy platform. This includes systems monitoring, database optimization, instrumentation, back-end work, front-end work, product ideation, and research-and-development. He envisions himself as a champion of the User Experience; and, often advocates for the User even in the face of internal opposition.

Outside of work-hours, Ben wakes up at 5 am, seven days a week, so that he can attempt to stay on top of the rapidly changing world of web development. He uses these early-morning hours to read, conduct experiments, and write articles for his blog, BenNadel.com, which he has been running since 2006.

Links

Ben Nadel | LinkedIn

Ben Nadel blog

Episode Transcript

Michaela Light 0:02

Welcome back to the show. I'm here with Charlie Arehart, Ben Nadal, Gert Franz, and Mark Drew will be joining us. In about 30 minutes, he had an unavoidable appointment. It's probably having a root canal at his dentist.

But we're gonna be talking about Adobe ColdFusion and Lucee and how they compare and contrast and all cool new features coming in the next five years that we prognosticate future performance. Improvements might be coming CFML engine updates and how you can best approach those confusion security. And we'll wrap up with some other questions about being a good CFML developer and conferences this year. Welcome, guys. Thank you for having us back. And we're gonna kick off with Ben because he was very quiet last time. I'll put in the show notes. The other two panels. This is a third panel we have, there's so much to talk about in about Adobe ColdFusion. Lucee, we couldn't fit it all into one episode. So

what do you think Ben's happening in the next five years? That takes us through 2027?

And it's a it's a really interesting question. As someone who's strictly a developer, as opposed to Gert, who is more in the building of platforms, I tend to focus a lot on how do I best use the tools that have been provided to me? And how do I get my work done with those tools, and I and I tend to focus less on what I don't have and what the future could be like. So this is always a bit of a harder question. For me, I think a lot of what happens in the future is going to be shaped by the changing technology and platform landscape. Obviously, we're what's happening there, do you know what just you know that we're we're we're heavily swinging into a platform as a service infrastructure as a service era with things like Amazon and, and lambda functions and a bunch of you know, there's a bunch of other platforms that now have Functions as a Service. And where does ColdFusion fit into that? And where are the limitations with things like licensing? I mean, obviously, wouldn't want to get into licensing probably, but not a problem for me,

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Michaela Light is the host of the CF Alive Podcast and has interviewed more than 100 ColdFusion experts. In each interview, she asks "What Would It Take to make CF more alive this year?" The answers still inspire her to continue to write and interview new speakers.

Michaela has been programming in ColdFusion for more than 20 years. She founded TeraTech in 1989. The company specializes in ColdFusion application development, security and optimization. She has also founded the CFUnited Conference and runs the annual State of the CF Union Survey.

Zac Spitzer talks about “Lucee 6 Release Features, Behind-the-Scenes ” in this episode of the ColdFusion Alive podcast with host Michaela Light.

I'm here with Zac Spitzer from the Lucee Association Switzerland along with some other organizations that I'll tell you about later. And we're going to be talking about some exciting breaking news about Lucee six. All the features in that and when you can get your hands on it. And a bit about behind the scenes on what happens in Lucee and how you can best get support from the Lucee folks."

Show notes

Lucee 6 beta release

Breaking news - early beta in early July

Update: The beta is delayed until some breakers are fixed - see Zac's Lucee 6 roadmap and 5.3.9 blog post

Download from https://www.lucee.org/ 

Open beta, separate docs site or local docs

VS Code and other IDEs read from cfdocs site

Free and can sponsor

5.3.9 regression release first

Beta length

180 alpha builds

https://luceeserver.atlassian.net/secure/GHGoToBoard.jspa?sprintId=58

Open collective support

The Lucee process and his role

Lucee Community Manager

Jack of all trades

Support

Lucee docs (originally by Pix8), Zac speeded it up https://docs.lucee.org/ 

Build engineer

Log4j fix - upgrade

Travis.ci migration to GitHub actions

Ticket triage

Dev schedulers

Facilitate Misha to focus on deep (PM)

Help Brad Wood on CommandBox integration

Learning Java

“Code speaks louder than words”

Improving dev workflows 

QoQ improvements

Extensions dependencies → Lucee Lite

Lucee 6 New features

Single context mode

Vs current multi-context in Lucee (and one context in ACF)

Faster server startup

Web sites each have one

Json config (from XML)

Fixing bad CFML defaults

CFLocation AddToken = False is now default

Java type UDFs

Type = Java

Add Java code direct in your CF code!

Autowrapping of the Java code

Currently Lucee uses OSGI for JARs for dynamic use

Subcomponents 

Better TryCF.com experience

Query of Query

Less funky that ACF - more like regular database queries - same semantics 

10x Faster performance (as of 5.3.8) for single table

Joins different

Future CF functions inside a QoQ query

Prior announced features in Lucee 6

Improve the Startup Time < 0.5s

Startup with only One Context halves the startup time

Removed old cruf for flash etc

Webinfo folder outside the webroot - more secure - smaller and faster

Pete Freitag Fuseless llamda helped on this

Warmenable = 1 to pre-load these folders

Better logging eg in deploy log

Log leves errors and info ones

Improve the Existing Serverless Deployment (JSR 223)

Introduce Headless Deployment for AWS Lambda

Project Loom - more parallel threads

https://blogs.oracle.com/javamagazine/post/going-inside-javas-project-loom-and-virtual-threads 

Add Built-In Support for syslog

Hibernate Upgrade to version 5.4 (Ortus supported upgrade for better ORM)

Web.cfc for website context 

Listeners - queries, mail, HTTP progress listener

Admin log viewer - aggregates them 

His GitHub or ForgeBox

Performance analyzer

Enable debug logs

Thread debugging for parallel code

His GitHub or ForgeBox

CF distributed lock across a cluster (Redis server)

Future improvements

Improved Functionality of Futures and Promises

Lockdown Settings for Administrators

The Use of Lucee will now be Disguised

Individual CFTOKEN or CFID Names

Introduction of a Password Vault

Quarantine mode

Add a Default Log Appender which is the Fallback if not configured.

Text file vs DataDog etc

Event-Driven Architecture

Brand New Native Support for JavaStreams (Luis CDstreams does this)

Easy use of Java libraries 

We love Lucee

NASA Mars web app in Lucee

The Lucee Release cycle

Point release schedule

Monthly vs stable release

Full test on the release

5.3.8 long release

6-month release cycle in future

Test library of regression code distributed tests for more stable releases - no regressions (errors in release)

Send in pull requests

Lucee 6 Announced the 2018 CFCamp in Munich

Better version numbering - faster major releases

LTS (Long Term Support) for prior version

Sprints 

Lucee support tips

Search in Google to see if others have solved your problem already

dev.lucee.org (searchable by Google)

Give what you have tried, give sample code (small), screenshots if appropriate, include error message

Test cases in TestBox 

Only bring to GitHub after discussing in the above Lucee forum

(Alt is Lucee support contract esp new features

CF Slack public Lucee channel 

Don’t DM support questions to Zac - share with others

Don’t Tweet me

Why are you proud to use CF?

WWIT to make CF more alive this year?

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Mentioned in this episode

Lucee 6 announced 

Lucee

Secrets From the Folks Who Make the Official Lucee CFML Docker Images, with Geoff Bowers

CFML Secrets with Patrick Quinn (AWS, Lucee and SeeFusion)

Bio

Zac Spitzer

Senior Software Engineer @ Rasia

80% Senior Software Engineer @ Distrokid

20% Community Manager @ Lucee Association Switzerland

Originally from Melbourne, Australia

Lives in Berlin, Germany

CFML Developer since 1996, Allaire CF 2.0

Links

Twitter

Lucee profile

Git Hub profile

Email zac @ lucee.org

 

Interview transcript

Michaela Light 0:02

Welcome back to the show. I'm here with Zach Spitzer from the Lucy Association Switzerland along with some other organizations that I'll tell you about later. And we're going to be talking about some exciting breaking news about Lucy six. All the features in that and when you can get your hands on it. And a bit about behind the scenes on what happens in Lucy and how you can best get support from the Lucy folks. Welcome Zach Debian. So if you don't know, Zach, he's quite quite out there in all the forums, you know, the slack forum on the Facebook ColdFusion channel. Because he is the community manager at Lucy sociation, Switzerland and helps with support and does a lot of other things we'll talk about in a moment, as well as being a senior software engineer at Razia. And does a lot of work for distro kid, which is one of the biggest ColdFusion sites in the world. So as you will know, if you've listened to the mark drew episode about trisko distro kid. He's originally from Melbourne, Australia, but now he's living in Berlin, Germany, and how to voice transplants so he could speak in a better accent than Australian. Just kidding. And he's been doing cold fusion since 1996. Back in the earlier days cold fusion 2.0. So thanks for coming on the show slack. And looking forward to hearing about what's going to be in Lucy six. Yeah, so what's the breaking news?

Zac Spitzer 1:39

So the breaking news is we're finally going to do a first beater of Lucy six in July. Whoo.

Michaela Light 1:47

So it's been a long? Where can people find that?

Zac Spitzer 1:50

So we will be doing I'll be publishing it all over the web. Once we do that. We'll be publishing it online via the Lucy administrator. Because with Lucy, unlike Adobe, you can just update your your local coffee, Lucy server to Lucy six. So we've maintained that we're maintaining compatibility with the old version of Lucy. So if you've got a Lucy 5380539 server, you can just go go to the admin when it comes out and try it out.

Michaela Light 2:19

Oh, cool. And so should we go to lucy.org or some other URL?

Zac Spitzer 2:24

Yep, you can download [email protected]. And you can download one of our existing installers or you can use command box. So we will be starting publishing builds we haven't published builds for the Alpha releases of Lucy six, because it's been a bit broken, and we don't want to waste people's time. Even though lots of people have been super keen to try it. We wanted to reach a point where it was ready to go. So yeah, in a couple of weeks, we will have the first piece of version out there.

Michaela Light 2:53

Excellent. How many Alpha builds? Have you been through that?

Zac Spitzer 2:57

Work? 206 point 0.0 180 At the moment. So that's been a lot.

Michaela Light 3:04

So 180 different builds, people have been trying it out inside the Alpha community. But you're getting ready in a few weeks. By the time this episode is released, I expect it will be released are soon available from lucy.org. And what is the what is the cost? For those who have been asleep for the last few years? What's the cost to use Lucy?

Zac Spitzer 3:30

Nothing you just need to be passionate.

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Charlie Arehart, Gert Franz, Mark Drew and Ben Nadel talk about "ACF and Lucee roundtable (Part 2)" in this episode of the CF Alive Podcast, with host Michaela Light.

"So this is part two of our panel discussion on Adobe ColdFusion and Lucee ColdFusion, or CFML, as they like to say. And if you haven't checked out last time, I'll put it in the show notes. But part one, we covered the ease of programming modern IDE, and open source versus closed source licensing differences. Some of the cool features in Adobe ColdFusion and Lucee, are ease of installation community in third-party tools and engine speed, scalability, and performance. So all of those topics, check out the first part. But this time, we're going to be talking about other things in Adobe ColdFusion and Lucee all the way cool places you can get documentation from how you can get help and support some of the podcasts out there. And engine updates. And we'll probably talk about some other things too because Gert gave us an extensive list of extra topics that we will work on fitting into the episode along with any other topics that Charlie, Ben, and Mark provided."

Show notes

Docs (links below): much more than just CFML Reference, for both

ACF

https://coldfusion.adobe.com/2017/11/did-you-know-theres-far-more-to-the-cf-docs-than-just-the-cfml-reference/ 

Lucee

Cfdocs.org

ACF and Lucee and different versions

Open “source” in that all can add examples

LearnCFinaWeek.com 

TryCFM.com

CFFiddle.org (ACF)

ACF CFML reference and tutorial (developer’s guide 3000 pages)

Adobe dox system - poor SEO / google search

Prior versions PDF of all docs

Good on keeping prior versions docs

Good on features in each release and hotfixes

Lucee weaker on new features in new releases

“Hacktoberfest Lucee bug month (October)

Charlies Hidden Gems posts and talks

Ortus open-source GitBooks

Learn CFML in 100 mins book

IDE help - color coding, hover help, F1 on keywords

Meta resource on CFML docs

Where do I get help (free & paid)

Paid Tech support

Adobe CF support programs

Lucee support by individual companies like Rasia, Ortus etc.

LAS donations for new features

Third parties eg Charlie Arehart, Mike Collins

Community support (free)

ACF

Adobe CF Forums community.coldfusion.com 

Adobe CF Portal

[email protected] (Free install support)

Lucee

Lucee Forum/Mailing list (Discourse)

[email protected] (contact Lucee)

Both

CFML slack

Limited retention of posts due to free version (paid would be many thousands of dollars due to per seat cost)

Mixed up topics as many folks don’t use threads

Linen exposes Slack content

https://cfml.linen.dev

Twitter

Facebook CF programmers group

Ortus Discord

SlackOverflow

Google searchable

Used by Ganter analysts in programming language reports

Tiobe index (supposedly rates “popularity” of languages)

CF usually ranks poorly

How it really works:

“Basically the calculation comes down to counting hits for the search query

+" programming"

From https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/programminglanguages_definition/ 

Conferences

IntoTheBox (in-person and remote, in Sept)

CF Summit (in-person and remote, in Oct)

CFCamp (postponed again for 2022)

Meta listing of them, with dates, locations, links

https://www.cf411.com/cfconf

How to find ACF and Lucee developers?

Drive for new CF developers

Bringing in other modern languages

CFML training

Meta resource of free CFML training resources

ACF cert

CFCasts.com

YouTube Ortus

Paid training:

https://www.cf411.com/cftrainers

Other CFML resources (meta resource of them):

https://www.cf411.com/cfres

Podcasts

CF Alive

Modernize or Die

Working Code, with Adam Tuttle, Ben Nadel, Carol Hamilton, and Tim Cunningham

Meta resource of podcasts

CF Engine compatibility

New features created by ACF and Lucee 

Backward compatibility to prior versions

Mentioned in this episode

ACF and Lucee panel Part 1 episode

ColdFusion at 25: More Modern than Most Realize

ColdFusion Programmers FB group post about ACF and Lucee

Adobe CF Docs

Lucee Docs

Facebook CF programmers group

CFML slack

Adobe CF Forums

Adobe CF Portal

Lucee Forum/Mailing list (Discourse)

CFA Mark T episode on gigabytes of data 

TryCFML

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Bio

Charlie Arehart

A veteran server troubleshooter who’s worked in enterprise IT for more than three decades, Charlie Arehart (@carehart) is a longtime community contributor who as an independent consultant provides short-term, remote, on-demand troubleshooting/tuning assistance for organizations of all sizes and experience levels (carehart.org/consulting).

Links

Twitter

Facebook

LinkedIn

Web 

Gert Franz

Gert was born in 1967 and lives in Switzerland since 1997. He is one of the key people behind Lucee. Back in the late eighties he studied astrophysics in Munich but switched to later IT as a profession and programmed for several companies in the past as a database administrator and system analyst. Gert spoke a lot at all major conferences in the past and will for sure in the future. He is now a fellow at DistroKid.

Links

gert (at) rasia.ch

http://rasia.ch/

Twitter

LinkedIn

Mark Drew

Mark Drew has been programming CFML since 1996, and even though he has had forays into Perl, ASP and PHP he is still loving every line of code he has crafted with CFML. 

He has been a strong advocate for open source, having worked on CFEclipse, Railo and now Lucee as well as a number of other projects. He tries to create a pull request a day, to keep the bugs at bay.

By day he helps other developers as the lead DevOps engineer at DistroKid, ensuring that the carefully crafted artisanal code goes from laptop to server in the shortest time while keeping all its flavor. By night he develops games with CMD: Studio. 

He has been known to do a podcast too! called the Localhost Podcast in which we talk all about the web. He also talks about the process of making games on the Level Design Podcast

Links

Twitter

LinkedIn

CFML Slack

Mark (at) cmdhq.io

https://anchor.fm/leveldesign

https://localhost.fm/

Ben Nadel

Ben Nadel is the technical co-founder of InVision App, Inc - a digital product design platform used to make the world's best customer experiences. As the original CTO, Ben now spends his days as a Principal Engineer, leading maintenance and development efforts on InVision's legacy platform. This includes systems monitoring, database optimization, instrumentation, back-end work, front-end work, product ideation, and research-and-development. He envisions himself as a champion of the User Experience; and, often advocates for the User even in the face of internal opposition.

Outside of work hours, Ben wakes up at 5 am, seven days a week, so that he can attempt to stay on top of the rapidly changing world of web development. He uses these early-morning hours to read, conduct experiments, and write articles for his blog, BenNadel.com, which he has been running since 2006.

Links

Ben Nadel | LinkedIn

Ben Nadel blog

Interview Transcript

Michaela Light 0:00

Welcome back to the show. I'm here with these amazing ColdFusion experts got Charlie Earhart, good friends, Ben Adele and Mark drew from all over the world got Charlie is in the middle of the United States in Kentucky Ben is in New

Charlie Arehart 0:20

flyover country.

Michaela Light 0:22

flyover country. Yeah, Ben is in the edge country on the East Coast in New York. Mark is joining us I think from London in the United Kingdom. He's probably got the queen in the background celebrating a jubilee with her cold fusion apps. Yeah, there she is. She can't come on camera right now. We'll bring him on. Come on. One of the corgis behind you.

Mark Drew 0:45

They've eaten a little bit too much right now.

Michaela Light 0:48

Yes. And good is joining us from the center of Europe. Which part of Europe are you in Switzerland or some other? The neutral one? The neutral one? Yes. That must be

Gert Franz 0:58

allegedly neutral.

Michaela Light 1:00

Yes. Allegedly. Yes.

Mark Drew 1:02

Queen had tea with one of your compatriots this weekend. Paddington Bear from deepest, darkest Peru, which is Oh,

Michaela Light 1:11

yes. Hope she served marmalade sandwiches. So

Mark Drew 1:15

they did. The exactly did. He brought his own and she had one in her handbag, which I never knew about.

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Michaela Light is the host of the CF Alive Podcast and has interviewed more than 100 ColdFusion experts. In each interview, she asks "What Would It Take to make CF more alive this year?" The answers still inspire her to continue to write and interview new speakers.

Michaela has been programming in ColdFusion for more than 20 years. She founded TeraTech in 1989. The company specializes in ColdFusion application development, security and optimization. She has also founded the CFUnited Conference and runs the annual State of the CF Union Survey.

 

 

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Dave Ferguson talks about "Are your Database Relationships in a Rut?" in this episode of the CF Alive Podcast, with host Michaela Light.

"Perhaps we should just talk about, you know how some ColdFusion developers get stuck in a rut with their database or other pieces of CF ecosystem?

Dave Ferguson 6:54

Yeah, mostly, I mean, I would say Yeah, mostly like database specifically. Everybody, I mean, you get this happens with anybody in anything you do. When you get really good at doing one thing. People just tend to stick with it. Because it's like, that's the train just the way I know how to do something. And I'm going to do this because it just makes my life simpler. But at the same time, you're almost doing yourself a disservice, because you're not learning something new that can make your life even easier. So you don't want to have that stuck in a rut of I'm going to do, I'm gonna do the same thing at that 10. Well, you want to do the same thing over to you, you're really good at it. But getting really good at something allows you to learn something else easier then. So if you just stick to one thing, you're never going to get down that I'm going to learn something else easier, because I'm just sticking with one specific thing."

Show notes

CF Rut?

Don’t get stuck in a CFer rut

Just because you have always done Try new ways too

Hence trying different approaches

Definition of “insanity”

What relational databases do most CFers use?

SQL Server

MySQL

Is there a better way?

Most systems don't need an elaborate, and possibly expensive, relational database. Most can get by just fine with something else. 

Can horizontally scale-out to accommodate large data volumes

Documents typically align better with code objects

Evolve as the app / data evolves without restructuring

Types of database

Hierarchical databases

Network databases

Object-oriented databases

Relational databases

Links data via Primary and Foreign

keys

Standard T-SQL query language

Ridged schema/structure

Referential Integrity (ACID)

NoSQL databases

You don't have to store your data in predetermined columns

each row can have a data structure the other rows don't

Examples

MongoDB

Apache CouchDB

MarkLogic

Azure Cosmos DB

Couchbase

Key value databases

(a type of NoSQL)

Amazon DynamoDB

Oracle NoSQL Database

InfinityDB

Redis

Wide-column Stores

Google Bigtable

Amazon DynamoDB

Apache Accumulo

Apache Cassandra

Apache HBase

Why

Column formatting and names vary row to row

Columns are stored separately on disk

Data searching can be faster

Graph Databases

Neo4j

ArangoDB

Dgraph

OrientDB

Amazon Neptune

Intensive data relationship handling. Relationships are treated as a first-class citizen

Structure and schema of a graph model can flex as applications and industries change

Database can e

Transactions pros and cons

Relational databases have transactions - a group of SQL statements either all succeed or are all rolled back. Is this always best for app?

Downsides of NoSQL

No / Minimal ACID Support

ACID =

Atomicity, Consistency, Isolation, Durability

⇒ Transactions 

Little to no standardization between NoSQL products

NoSQL uses "Eventual Consistency" over transactions

Avoid NoSQL for

Banking

Online gaming

Rights Management

Complex / Dynamic querying

Use

Collection = table

createCollection

Document = row

objects

What database type is more appropriate than others for certain data?

Where does using a hybrid of databases makes sense and how that would look to a system?

How easy is it to use alternative databases with CF 2021?

ACF 2021 Package manager

Install MongoDB locally

Use MongoDB Atlas

DO MongoDB

CAP Theorem

Consistency 

Every node in the cluster responds with the most recent data, even if the system must block the request until all replicas update.

Availability 

Every node returns an immediate response.

Partition Tolerance 

Guarantees the system continues to operate even if a replicated data node fails or loses connectivity with other replicated data nodes.

What is LearnCFinaWeek?

Free learn modern CF resource

Key contributors

Dave Ferguson

Daniel Fredericks

Carl Von Stetten

What is new at  LearnCFinaWeek?

Learn CF in a week

Open source

CF training

The LearnCFinaWeek site code

Modernized code

Cfscript

ColdBox

Update for CF 2021

Week 2

Why are you proud to use CF?

It makes the hard stuff easy

WWIT to make CF more alive this year?

Don’t dismiss due to itself

Showcase what it can do with less people in faster dev cycle

Mentioned in this episode

CFHour

ACID 

CommandBox episode 

LearnCFinaWeek

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Bio

Dave Ferguson

Dave has spent the majority of his life living in sunny Southern California. Over the past almost 23 years has worked in information technology after his attempt at being a career restaurant manager failed miserably. He has spent the majority of that time specializing in large enterprise-class systems. When not writing code, Dave is an avid gamer and competitive martial artist with multiple championship titles.

Links

LinkedIn

Twitter

Interview Transcript

Michaela Light 0:02

Welcome back to the show. I'm here with Dave Ferguson. And we're going to be talking about how your database relationships may have fallen into a rut and how to get out of sad, right so your relationships can be fabulous with your ColdFusion and database. So welcome, Dave.

Dave Ferguson 0:19

Hello, how are you?

Michaela Light 0:22

I am absolutely effing fabulous. How are you in sunny California, Southern California.

Dave Ferguson 0:28

I wish it was sunny. It is Southern California but not sunny.

Michaela Light 0:31

vakeel bio says sunny Southern California. It must be sunny

Dave Ferguson 0:36

it mostly it's sunny. But it's cold. It we're in like the cold spell right now. But it's normally pretty, pretty nice here. Can't complain.

Michaela Light 0:45

So you're somewhere south south of Los Angeles. I understand one of those amazing theme parks.

Dave Ferguson 0:50

Yes. Not not not the ones ran by the mouse. The other the other kind? The more extremes non mouse theme, the non mouse departs with extreme rise. Yes. Well, that's

Michaela Light 1:00

very appropriate than non mouse because we're going to be talking about non SQL or no SQL. So that's just a plug for what's coming up. Yep. Yes. But you've been doing it and cold fusion for decades now. Oh,

Dave Ferguson 1:16

it feels like an internal debate about how you? Yeah.

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Michaela Light is the host of the CF Alive Podcast and has interviewed more than 100 ColdFusion experts. In each interview, she asks "What Would It Take to make CF more alive this year?" The answers still inspire her to continue to write and interview new speakers.

Michaela has been programming in ColdFusion for more than 20 years. She founded TeraTech in 1989. The company specializes in ColdFusion application development, security and optimization. She has also founded the CFUnited Conference and runs the annual State of the CF Union Survey.

 

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Charlie Arehart, Gert Franz, Mark Drew and Ben Nadel talk about "ACF and Lucee roundtable" in this episode of the CF Alive Podcast, with host Michaela Light.

"Michaela Light 1:41

So let's start off by looking at how Adobe CF 2021 and Lucee 5.3 and how they compare for ease of programming and  CFML.

Mark Drew 1:57

I'm gonna have to jump out of the the Adobe side. Or maybe stake my my my bad claim is that I don't really know much about Adobe ColdFusion for the last five, six years since I haven't used it.

Michaela Light 2:17

So it's okay. Ben and Charlie have been using it. And bring Yeah, I mean, just to clarify to the audience, Mark and Gert are more on the Lucee side of things. Ben and Charlie are more on the Adobe ColdFusion side of things."

Show notes

Ease of programming in CFML

Modern CFML cfscript very similar to JavaScript on front end and server side

Objects, closures, loops etc

Lambdas, promises, closures, async features, fat arrow functions

CFML more intuitive than Node.js

Blocking and async

CFML blocking by default is best - easier to code and what you need most of the time

Async iteration

CFML simplifies complex libraries and coding methods in other languages

Modern IDE

VS Code

Adobe new add on

Free CFML extensions available

Open source vs closed source

Cost

Mindset - community

When features are added

Open bug list and prioritizing

Democracy and pay for features

Add to main language or extension

Licensing differences

Lucee: free

Can pay for a support contract for tech support and other custom help

ACF:

Free for development, testing and staging servers

30 day trial turns into dev edition if no key added

standard vs enterprise

Free education std license (for teaching and students, not school administration use)

AMI also offers 30 day trial

Charges begin after 30 days

Freemium model

Avoids barrier to entry

Hosting

Cloud

Docker

Microservices and lamada

Cores

Kubernetes clusters  and auto scaling

Compare to IBM, Microsoft, Redhat in cloud licence

Pet Freitag Fuseless AWS lambda

CFML features in ACF and Lucee

PDF support

Cloud support

Ease of Installation and hardware requirements

Zip/express/light install option

Much faster start up time (2 seconds)

Much smaller install image (50-200 MB vs 1000 MB)

Cf2021: CFPM package management to only include the features you actually use in the CFML engine

Full/gui install option

War deployment option

Silent install feature

Commandbox

Docker

Lucee images

Adobe images

Commandbox images for either

AWS AMI

Hosting options

Admin settings export/manage via json

Cfconfig (commandbox extension)

Cfsetup (cf2021 similar functionality)

Community and 3rd party tools

Rich community support, tools, ecosystem

Adobe reinventing products, not always compatible

Poisons the well of the community

CFML Engine Speed, scalability and performance

The engine does this scaling work for you

CF runs fast on real life apps

Performance issues always come down to bad code or database structure or API call delays

Developer egonomics vs performance

CFML is easy to learn and code in and sometimes you have to understand the consequence

Load testing is key to exercise your app in real life situation

Great monitor FusionReactor

Also ACF PMT, SeeFusion, Java monitoring tools

Garbage collection tuning is still a mystery to me. It’s magic.

What you can expect in the future episode

Docs (links below): much more than just CFML Reference, for both

ACF

Lucee

cfdocs.org

Community support (links below)

ACF

Adobe CF Forums

Adobe CF Portal

[email protected] (Free install support)

Lucee

Lucee Forum/Mailing list (Discourse)

Both

CFML slack

Facebook CF programmers group

Podcasts

CF Alive

Modernize or Die

Tech support

Adobe CF support programs

Lucee support

Third parties

Security

CFML Engine Updates

New version releases

Security hotfixes

Why are you proud to use CFML?

WWIT to make CF more alive this year?

What are you looking forward to at CF Summit West?

Mentioned in this episode

ColdFusion at 25: More Modern than Most Realize

ColdFusion Programmers FB group post about ACF and Lucee

Adobe CF Docs

Lucee Docs

Facebook CF programmers group

CFML slack

Adobe CF Forums

Adobe CF Portal

Lucee Forum/Mailing list (Discourse) 

Mark Takata CF Alive podcast episode

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Bio

Charlie Arehart

A veteran server troubleshooter who’s worked in enterprise IT for more than three decades, Charlie Arehart (@carehart) is a longtime community contributor who as an independent consultant provides short-term, remote, on-demand troubleshooting/tuning assistance for organizations of all sizes and experience levels (carehart.org/consulting).

Links

Twitter

Facebook

LinkedIn

Web

Gert Franz

Gert was born in 1967 and lives in Switzerland since 1997. He is one of the key people behind Lucee. Back in the late eighties he studied astrophysics in Munich but switched to later IT as a profession and programmed for several companies in the past as a database administrator and system analyst. Gert spoke a lot at all major conferences in the past and will for sure in the future. He is now a fellow at DistroKid.

Links

gert (at) rasia.ch

http://rasia.ch/

Twitter

LinkedIn

Mark Drew

Mark Drew has been programming CFML since 1996, and even though he has had forays into Perl, ASP and PHP he is still loving every line of code he has crafted with CFML.

He has been a strong advocate for open source, having worked on CFEclipse, Railo and now Lucee as well as a number of other projects. He tries to create a pull request a day, to keep the bugs at bay.

By day he helps other developers as the lead devops engineer at DistroKid, making sure that the carefully crafted artesanal code goes from laptop to server in the shortest time whilst keeping all its flavour. By night he develops games with CMD:Studio.

He has been known to do a podcast too! called the Localhost Podcast in which we talk all about the web. He also talks about the process of making games on the Level Design Podcast

Links

Twitter

LinkedIn

CFML Slack

Mark (at) cmdhq.io

https://anchor.fm/leveldesign

https://localhost.fm/

Ben Nadel

Ben Nadel is the technical co-founder of InVision App, Inc - a digital product design platform used to make the world's best customer experiences. As the original CTO, Ben now spends his days as a Principal Engineer, leading maintenance and development efforts on InVision's legacy platform. This includes systems monitoring, database optimization, instrumentation, back-end work, front-end work, product ideation, and research-and-development. He envisions himself as a champion of the User Experience; and, often advocates for the User even in the face of internal opposition.

Outside of work-hours, Ben wakes up at 5 am, seven days a week, so that he can attempt to stay on top of the rapidly changing world of web development. He uses these early-morning hours to read, conduct experiments, and write articles for his blog, BenNadel.com, which he has been running since 2006.

Links

LinkedIn

Ben Nadel blog

Interview Transcript

Michaela Light 0:02

So welcome back to the show. I'm here with a whole bunch of ColdFusion experts here we've got Charlie, Mark Gertz and Ben and myself. And we're going to be talking about Adobe ColdFusion. And Lucy the two leading ColdFusion engines, we'll see FML engines as I should say before we get beaten up by one of the CFML hardcore people. And we're going to look at some of the different ways they are the same or alike and compare and contrast them. So welcome, guys. Thank you. Welcome. And just in case anyone listening or watching this doesn't know who these are Charlie arehart is an amazing cold fusion troubleshooter Mark Drew is really dedicated to solving difficult cold fusion problems in the United Kingdom. Well, and worldwide, I think good friends is located somewhere in the center of Europe. I think Switzerland I want to say and is leading light in the Lucy community. And Ben de Tao comes to us from I believe New York City. And he publishes pretty much every single day. I don't know how you find time to do any work. He's been there DALBAR blog is one of the most popular ColdFusion blogs out there. So

Mark Drew 1:22

I'm gonna say most popular blogs on the internet. Yes, I mean, nevermind coffee, just like I've been looking for like various different things online, unrelated to technology, by Nadel. brings me joy every day. Thank you.

Michaela Light 1:41

So let's start off by looking at how Adobe cf 2021 and Lucy 5.3 how they compare for ease of programming and C CFML.

Mark Drew 1:57

I'm gonna have to jump out of the the Adobe side. Or maybe stake my my my bad claim is that I don't really know much about Adobe ColdFusion for the last five, six years since I have haven't used it.

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Michaela Light is the host of the CF Alive Podcast and has interviewed more than 100 ColdFusion experts. In each interview, she asks "What Would It Take to make CF more alive this year?" The answers still inspire her to continue to write and interview new speakers.

Michaela has been programming in ColdFusion for more than 20 years. She founded TeraTech in 1989. The company specializes in ColdFusion application development, security and optimization. She has also founded the CFUnited Conference and runs the annual State of the CF Union Su

Rakshith Naresh talks about “Revealing the ColdFusion 2018 Roadmap details ” in this episode of ColdFusion Alive podcast with host Michaela Light. Episode highlights How has CF changed over the last few versions   API management platform Docker container – official images will be available by end of Q3 2017 + Redhat openshift platform What features are […]

Brian Sappey talks about “How to implement Adobe's API Manager with Swagger, ColdFusion, and API's” in this episode of ColdFusion Alive Podcast. In this session, you will be provided a look, with examples, about a successful implementation of the Adobe API Manager into a large scale Enterprise environment. You will learn how to configure the […]

Luis Majano talks about “4 Cool CF books” in this episode of the CF Alive Podcast, with host Michaela Light.

Show notes

Learn Modern CFML in 100 minutes

Why wrote

Started by Mike Hanky 100 minutes of CF on GitHub but not completed

Inspired by Ruby in 100 mins

Luis asked to complete the CF book

Take CFML to next level, modern

What about

Who it is for

Reference for all CFers to write in modern CFML

Newbies to CFML

How to read/buy

Online

Open source book

In GitBook

Kept up to date with pull requests

Print and Kindle and PDF

CF code to export to PDF for Amazon

Really 100 minutes? Yes

Future

Mini videos on the chapters for CFCasts

102 ColdBox HMVC Tips and Tricks

Why 102?

Was (100 + 1) + 1 - overachiever

Why wrote

Help ColdBox users

Wrote 30 minutes per day 5 tips per day and from the team

What about

Who it is for

All levels of ColdBox users

Newbies

Medium

advanced

How to read/buy

Oruts site PDF + eBook

Made with Ulysses  book publishing tool

Closed source

Future - video version for CFCasts

Two new books announcement

102 CommandBox Tips and Tricks

All levels of CommandBox users

Newbies

Medium

Advanced

Server spin up

Undertow JBOSS

Package management

ForgeBox 1000 open source modules

CLI (Command Line Interface) and REPL

102 TestBox Tips and Tricks

Automated testing

TDD (Test Driven Development) - write unit tests before writing the code

Developer paralysis from having to write tests first

Refactor code to be testable

Write tests for only the most complex CFCs

Just in time testing - write test after you see a bug so that bug doesn’t come back later

BDD (Behavior Driven Development) - higher level testing and user behavior

From top requirements and stories down

Also Mocking objects and data (was MockBox)

Dummy code objects until the real object is created

API mocking

Coverage testing

Currently with FusionReactor

Might be standalone later

Why to test

What to test

When to stop writing test

Launch at ITB

Other books

https://www.ortussolutions.com/learn/books/

Online documentation of these products

ColdBox

CommandBox

TestBox

WireBox

CacheBox

ContentBox

https://ortusbooks.com/

Online is up to date, printed book is out of date

ColdBox

Why are you proud to use CF?

The best language - used many

ASM, Basic, C#, Grovey, Java, CF

Productive

WWIT to make CF more alive this year?

Build solutions in CF (not focus on cool language features)

Tell folks about it!

What are you looking forward to at Into The Box Web Development Conference 2022?

New family friendly venue in Houston TX

1 day workshops

Other big speakers, including from other languages

Mentioned in this episode

Ortus Solutions

Learn Modern CFML in 100 minutes

102 Tips and Tricks

GitBooks

CFCasts podcast episode with Eric Peterson

Ulysses

ITB conference Sept 2022

Brad CommandBox extensions podcast episode

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Bio

Luis Majano

Luis Majano (@lmajano) is a Computer Engineer that has been developing and designing software systems since the year 2000. He was born in San Salvador, El Salvador in the late 70’s, during a period of economical instability and civil war. He lived in El Salvador until 1995 and then moved to Miami, Florida where he completed his Bachelors of Science in Computer Engineering at Florida International University. Luis resides in Houston, Texas with his beautiful wife Veronica, daughter Alexia and son Lucas!

He is the CEO of Ortus Solutions (@ortussolutions), a consulting firm specializing in web development, ColdFusion (CFML), Java development and all open source professional services under the *Box stack. He is the creator of ColdBox, ContentBox, WireBox, MockBox, LogBox and anything BOX, and contributes to many open source ColdFusion/Java projects. You can read his blog at www.luismajano.com.

Links

Luis Majano | LinkedIn

Twitter

Ortus Solutions

Interview Transcript

Michaela Light 0:00

Welcome back to the show. I'm here with Luis Mahato, CEO of audit solutions, and we're gonna talk about four. That's four ColdFusion books that he's either written or about to publish real soon now. And welcome, Luis. That's Yes, thank you for having me. This is really, really exciting. It's been a long time. It has been long, too long, but we're making up for lost time. For those of you don't know, Luis, he originally was born in El Salvador. And then he moved to Houston, Texas, and he's been doing cold fusion for decades now. And odor solution is the company he founded together with his brother and big team now not only in the United States, but also in El Salvador as a team as well. And they make all those box products called Box command box test box. If you think of any English word and you can put box after it probably there is a box product, either crying it or coming.

Trying yes, no, you're incredibly productive Luis. Really appreciate everything you do in the ColdFusion community. And also, you guys started the moderniser die podcast. So another great contribution there. So today we're going to talk about the books you've written, the two you've published, we're going to talk about and I actually have one in my hand here, I will just wave around, signed by the author at CF Summit. That book in case you couldn't read it as I waved around as modern ColdFusion CFML, in 100 minutes. So we'll talk about that also 102 codebooks ht, HMP see tips and tricks. And then two new books coming out this year. One about command box one about test box. And there are even other books we are not allowed to talk about that you published in the past will remain secret and hidden.

Luis Majano 1:57

Up to date, if you're using older versions, you know, if you're using older versions of that software, they're still relevant.

Michaela Light 2:03

Okay, well, then maybe we will mention them. Yeah. So yeah. Tell us about your the first book that you published, learn modern CFML in 100 minutes. So why did you write this? It's been a few years since about three years since I think you published this.

Luis Majano 2:16

Yeah, definitely. I mean, this actually, the first kind of brunt of the workload was done by Mike Hankey. Great guy. I met him a long time ago. Actually, I have to catch up with him. But Mike Kanki took the time to kind of start this this this idea of CFML and 100 minutes, which was made famous by Ruby, right. So Ruby created a, an online book on alignment. Trent called 100. What it was a Ruby in 100 minutes, or Ruby and Rails on 100 minutes or something, I think it was just Ruby Ruby in 100 minutes. And Mike kind of started it and he put it on GitHub, and it kind of got a little bit of traction, but he I don't think he ever completed it. And I spoke to him and say, hey, I want to I want to do a modern version, can I just you know, grabbed some of this content. And and he agreed. And then basically, I started this initiative. And as you know, you know, we're trying to revive and kind of disseminate that CFML and ColdFusion is modern, right? This is the stigma that we have that it's you know, it's a language that has been around for many years now, people still think that it's the same language that it was 20 years ago, right. Like with anything, it has evolved, just like the other languages that have been going on around like PHP, and Java, which people still think that PHP is still very legacy. And it's has some modern concepts as well. So that was my idea is I want to take this to the next level, I want to basically provide a modern approach to the language and treat this as for not only for newbies, it was mostly targeted for newbies to furniture, but it has grown into also a nice reference, right for people to actually say, hey, I want to I want to see what's up with the variable scopes or you know, what about null and nothingness, right, or threading? Right. So we tried to appease both kind of sides, the the newbies and the advanced, folks. But my intent was definitely Okay, let's take this and push Martin CFML. Document all the new modern constructs, how to document how to write and and, you know, we still have big plans for it right now, it's been, like you said, about three years since the initial version. So it's time for it's been kept up to date, especially a lot by the community. This is a great thing since it's open source. So I've gotten tons of pull requests, I can look up how many pull requests we have received, but tons of pull requests, and it's still up to date. And we just want to keep updating it I want to add more integration integrations with what's the service that actually allows you to execute CFML try CFML. So I want to add those so you can actually have little snippets that you can actually execute and start Working with it.

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Michaela Light is the host of the CF Alive Podcast and has interviewed more than 100 ColdFusion experts. In each interview, she asks "What Would It Take to make CF more alive this year?" The answers still inspire her to continue to write and interview new speakers.

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Eric Peterson talks about “CFCasts Behind the Scenes” in this episode of the CF Alive Podcast, with host Michaela Light.

Show notes

What is CFCasts

Netflix for ColdFusion

Free and paid levels

Why should every CFer check out CFCasts

CFML-based tutorials

Full-stack content (CFML, JavaScript, Databases, etc.)

Free! (and Paid)

Why we built CFCasts

“Netflix for CFML Developers”

Screencasts for CF

History

LaraCasts.com - PHP / Laravel

CFCasts domain registered in 2014

Why has it not got Box in the name, like all the other Ortus products?

We already had the domain. ;-)

When was it launched?

2020 - Record all ITB videos and wanted to sell them (virtual conference)

Part Virtual event due to covid

Whole Ortus team helps created the content, along with other CF experts

 Stats

343 Videos

23 Series

500+ accounts plus more viewers not logged

English and Spanish Localization

Content

Box vs other CF

ITB Videos

Object-Oriented Programming course by Nolan Erck

ColdBox Workshop

Code samples for workshops in Git repos

How we built CFCasts

ColdBox

Lucee

InertiaJS

VueJS

MySQL

Vimeo

Stripe

Responsible design - works on phone, tablet, desktop

Tailwind CSS and Tailwind UI

Future features

Video page redesign better UX

Refactoring to ElasticSearch, more filters and search results

From MySQL text search

Why are you proud to use CF?

Lots of innovations in the CF space

Lots of the world runs on CF

More sites in CF than BuiltWith etc shows due to intranets and modern coding practices

WWIT to make CF more alive this year?

Learn new CF features and tools

BuiltWithCFBox Git repo

What are you looking forward to at Into The Box?

In Person

Workshops

September 27-30

New Location?

Mentioned in this episode

ForgeBox.io

CFCasts

MySQL

InertiaJS

TailwindUI

Into The Box

Listen to the Audio

Bio

Eric Peterson

Eric Peterson is a CFML and Javascript developer at Ortus Solutions (ColdBox, CommandBox, etc.). He attended the University of Utah and received a degree in Information Systems thinking he would hate programming as a career. He started programming in CFML (and in general) in 2012 and has never been more happy to be proved wrong.

He is the current maintainer of qb, Quick, and ColdBox Elixir as well as a prolific module author on ForgeBox.io. He loves creating tools to help bring CFML up to date with other modern languages and communities.

In his free time, Eric loves to participate in theater, musicals, and to spend time with his wife, three children, and one dog. He can be found on Twitter at @_elpete.

Links

Twitter

GitHub @elpete

Interview Transcript

Michaela Light 0:00

Welcome back to the show. I'm here with Eric Peterson. And we're talking about CF casts behind the scenes. We're going to learn what is in CF casts all the cool ColdFusion stuff in there, why He created it, and some other interesting stuff in ColdFusion land and CF casts. Welcome, Eric.

Eric Peterson 0:20

Hey, thanks for having me.

Michaela Light 0:22

You're welcome. And for those of you don't know, Eric is a CFML, and JavaScript developer, he works at audit solutions. And you know, the guys who make all those box products, among many other things, and they also make CF costs, which is probably why we're talking. And I'm surprised to learn Eric, though you did an Information Systems degree, thinking you thought you would hate programming.

Eric Peterson 0:48

Yeah, I did. Especially after my first programming course, in college. I just, it was, I don't know, it just wasn't, it didn't click. I remember, it was a Java course. And all I was doing was sticking things out in the console. And I thought, well, this is kind of boring. And I remember jumping forward to like, we made the game, but I don't remember how any of the code worked. It was just like, edit this one section of the class. And it just didn't click. But uh, but when I graduated and got into a job, there was some web development in it. And I guess having a goal, something to build that people were going to use me that made it much more exciting. So

Michaela Light 1:31

and you were programming in cold fusion in that job? It sounds like,

Eric Peterson 1:34

Yeah, we were a team, we call ourselves shadow IT, because the supply chain that the company had hired myself, along with a few other people to do it projects for them that didn't have to kind of go through the rest of the company prioritization. And so we got to choose our own our own tech and things. And before I got there, actually, they had chosen cold fusion, because they had heard it was easy to get up and running for people who had, let's say, didn't have a formal computer science background.

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Michaela Light is the host of the CF Alive Podcast and has interviewed more than 100 ColdFusion experts. In each interview, she asks "What Would It Take to make CF more alive this year?" The answers still inspire her to continue to write and interview new speakers.

Michaela has been programming in ColdFusion for more than 20 years. She founded TeraTech in 1989. The company specializes in ColdFusion application development, security and optimization. She has also founded the CFUnited Conference and runs the annual State of the CF Union Survey.

 

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