Charlie Arehart, Gert Franz, Mark Drew and Ben Nadel talk about "ACF and Lucee roundtable" in this episode of the CF Alive Podcast, with host Michaela Light.
"Michaela Light 1:41
So let's start off by looking at how Adobe CF 2021 and Lucee 5.3 and how they compare for ease of programming and CFML.
Mark Drew 1:57
I'm gonna have to jump out of the the Adobe side. Or maybe stake my my my bad claim is that I don't really know much about Adobe ColdFusion for the last five, six years since I haven't used it.
Michaela Light 2:17
So it's okay. Ben and Charlie have been using it. And bring Yeah, I mean, just to clarify to the audience, Mark and Gert are more on the Lucee side of things. Ben and Charlie are more on the Adobe ColdFusion side of things."
Show notes
Ease of programming in CFML
Modern CFML cfscript very similar to JavaScript on front end and server side
Objects, closures, loops etc
Lambdas, promises, closures, async features, fat arrow functions
CFML more intuitive than Node.js
Blocking and async
CFML blocking by default is best - easier to code and what you need most of the time
Async iteration
CFML simplifies complex libraries and coding methods in other languages
Modern IDE
VS Code
Adobe new add on
Free CFML extensions available
Open source vs closed source
Cost
Mindset - community
When features are added
Open bug list and prioritizing
Democracy and pay for features
Add to main language or extension
Licensing differences
Lucee: free
Can pay for a support contract for tech support and other custom help
ACF:
Free for development, testing and staging servers
30 day trial turns into dev edition if no key added
standard vs enterprise
Free education std license (for teaching and students, not school administration use)
AMI also offers 30 day trial
Charges begin after 30 days
Freemium model
Avoids barrier to entry
Hosting
Cloud
Docker
Microservices and lamada
Cores
Kubernetes clusters and auto scaling
Compare to IBM, Microsoft, Redhat in cloud licence
Pet Freitag Fuseless AWS lambda
CFML features in ACF and Lucee
PDF support
Cloud support
Ease of Installation and hardware requirements
Zip/express/light install option
Much faster start up time (2 seconds)
Much smaller install image (50-200 MB vs 1000 MB)
Cf2021: CFPM package management to only include the features you actually use in the CFML engine
Full/gui install option
War deployment option
Silent install feature
Commandbox
Docker
Lucee images
Adobe images
Commandbox images for either
AWS AMI
Hosting options
Admin settings export/manage via json
Cfconfig (commandbox extension)
Cfsetup (cf2021 similar functionality)
Community and 3rd party tools
Rich community support, tools, ecosystem
Adobe reinventing products, not always compatible
Poisons the well of the community
CFML Engine Speed, scalability and performance
The engine does this scaling work for you
CF runs fast on real life apps
Performance issues always come down to bad code or database structure or API call delays
Developer egonomics vs performance
CFML is easy to learn and code in and sometimes you have to understand the consequence
Load testing is key to exercise your app in real life situation
Great monitor FusionReactor
Also ACF PMT, SeeFusion, Java monitoring tools
Garbage collection tuning is still a mystery to me. It’s magic.
What you can expect in the future episode
Docs (links below): much more than just CFML Reference, for both
ACF
Lucee
cfdocs.org
Community support (links below)
ACF
Adobe CF Forums
Adobe CF Portal
[email protected] (Free install support)
Lucee
Lucee Forum/Mailing list (Discourse)
Both