Kimberly Jones knows the importance of history. Her powerful book, How We Can Win is all about the history of systemic racism in the United States and leveling the playing field. The New York Times bestselling I’m Not Dying with You Tonight, co-written with Gilly Segal, is based on actual race riots. Also, she’s currently working on a biography of her mother, a trailblazer in multiple ways. 

She also understands legacy and that the things she leaves behind will be part of the way she’s remembered. In this conversation, Kim and Adam talk about the things Kim collects ranging from Cabbage Patch Dolls and Yo! MTV Raps cards to hard to find books to… much stranger things. 

Adam and Kim first met way before Kim took the world by storm with her powerful and emotional speech about the inequality in America during the George Floyd protests. Their friendship is one of goofiness and shared adoration. This conversation is like sneaking into a family Sunday meal and listening in as they joke about the many things that have meaning to us.

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