Collective Nightmares

Kuso (2017)

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FILMS MENTIONED THIS EPISODE

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Nothing But Trouble (1991) – SPOILERS

NO SPOILERS

Kill, Baby … Kill! (1966)

The Love Witch (2016)

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TOPIC INDEX – Kuso (2017) www.imdb.com/title/tt6131712/

Kuso demands a special introduction

2:52 – Discussion begins with Laura’s take

3:59 – Marshall’s take

5:26 – A certain kind of gross,

6:14 – Nothing But Trouble (1991)

12:05 – And we’re back to the creepy gross

13:11 – Kristeva’s concept of abjection

I was inspired by Kuso such that I wrote an essay about the abject and the film. Please share your thoughts!

16:59 – Laura and the evolutionary perspective

18:47 – Fetishization of gross

20:43 – Audience reactions

22:12 – Flying Lotus is super impressive.

22:55 – Excerpt with Flying Lotus from the Hannibal Buress: Handsome Rambler podcast about Kuso.

28:01 – Showers and artichokes

31:37 – Compared vs Kill! Baby, Kill! vs The Love Witch

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“Horror films are our collective nightmares.”

Kuso (2017) SPOILERS IN THIS EPISODE! Subscribe to our Patreon for additional episodes and other exclusive content! Only $3 a month. https://www.patreon.com/collectivenightmares You can also support our podcast via paypal.me/collectivenightmares As always, thanks for listening. Please let us know your thoughts. • IG: @collectivenightmares  • T: @collectivenite
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Thoroughbreds (2017) SPOILERS IN THIS EPISODE!  As always, thanks for listening. Please let us know your thoughts. • www.collectivenightmares.com • IG: @collectivenightmares • T: @collectivenite • [email protected] • [email protected] • paypal.me/collectivenightmares • Patreon coming soon! “Horror films are our collective nightmares.” Up next, we return to Pascal Laugier for his newest film, Ghostland. FILMS MENTIONED THIS EPISODE IT (2017) – MINOR SPOILERS  … Continue reading "Thoroughbreds (2017)"

Thoroughbreds (2017)

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Up next, we return to Pascal Laugier for his newest film, Ghostland.

FILMS MENTIONED THIS EPISODE

IT (2017) – MINOR SPOILERS 

Scalene (2011) – SPOILERS 

Martyrs (2008) NO SPOILERS

Proxy (2013) – NO SPOILERS

Rememory (2017) – NO SPOILERS

Hereditary NO SPOILERS

Ghostland (2018) NO SPOILERS

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TOPIC INDEX – Thoroughbreds (2017)

1:18 – Dedicated to Anton Yelchin

2:23 – Rememory – NO SPOILERS

8:39 – A very few complaints to get out of the way

10:53 – Contrasted with IT (2017) – MINOR SPOILERS

Our IT episode is here.

12:05 – Ergometer

13:23 – Trying to think more about costumes

18:33 – Amanda’s quote ” You cannot hesitate. The only thing worse than being incompetent, or being unkind, or being evil, is being indecisive. “

23:38 – The ending

28:45 – Amanda smiles

34:39 to 35:31 – Scalene  – SPOILERS

38:19 – Why plural?

41:49 – Horse injuries

51:33 – Shifting assumptions?

57:52 – Farce? Satire?

1:01:19 – Music and animals

1:03:13 – Hereditary NO SPOILERS

1:05:30 – Olivia Cooke and Anya Taylor-Joy 

1:07:50 – Next up, Pascal Laugier’s newest film Ghostland (2018)

1:09:46 – Watch Martyrs (2008). Seriously, if you haven’t yet. Set aside a time and do it. Commit to it. Turn off you phone, turn the lights down, the volume up, and commit.

Our Martyrs episode is here.

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Thoroughbreds (2017) SPOILERS IN THIS EPISODE!  As always, thanks for listening. Please let us know your thoughts. • www.collectivenightmares.com • IG: @collectivenightmares • T: @collectivenite • [email protected] • [email protected] • paypal.me/collectivenightmares • Patreon coming soon! “Horror films are our collective nightmares.” Up next, we return to Pascal Laugier for his newest film, Ghostland. FILMS MENTIONED THIS EPISODE IT (2017) – MINOR SPOILERS  … Continue reading "Thoroughbreds (2017)"

Hereditary (2018) – www.imdb.com/title/tt7784604 SPOILERS IN THIS EPISODE!  Thanks for listening, please let us know if you are! “Horror films are our collective nightmares.” FILMS MENTIONED THIS EPISODE Proxy (2013) – NO SPOILERS Se7en (1995) – MINOR SPOILERS It Comes At Night (2017) – NO SPOILERS Martyrs (2008) – NO SPOILERS Revenge  (2017) – MINOR … Continue reading "Hereditary (2018)"

Hereditary (2018) – www.imdb.com/title/tt7784604

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Thanks for listening, please let us know if you are!

“Horror films are our collective nightmares.”

FILMS MENTIONED THIS EPISODE

Proxy (2013) – NO SPOILERS

Se7en (1995) – MINOR SPOILERS

It Comes At Night (2017) – NO SPOILERS

Martyrs (2008) – NO SPOILERS

Revenge  (2017) – MINOR SPOILERS

The Shining (1980) – NO SPOILERS

Inside (2007) – MAJOR SPOILER

A Quiet Place – SPOILER 

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TOPIC AND MOVIE INDEX – Hereditary (2018)

4:03 – IMDb has shitty autoplay ads??! As an IMDb user for at least 20 years this is a super sad day for me.

4:32 – Marshall is the hall monitor of movie watching

6:26  – Laura’s starts the discussion

13:05 – Se7en MINOR SPOILERS 

14:08 – Convoluted mythology and clunky explanation. Also, pretty sure Marshall is just wrong here and confusing the kids 

16:35 – Laura on logistics and characters

24:58 – Revenge (2017) MINOR SPOILERS, pot, parties and other unnecessary dumb things

28:16 – It Comes At Night (2017) – NO SPOILERS

32:08 – What’s the deal with the burning book? And another not-great explanation by Marshall

36:00 to 36:39 – Inside (2007) – MAJOR SPOILER

36:38 – The Shining (1980) NO SPOILERS 

41:17 – WTF was the mythology?

42:24 – 42:39 – A Quiet Place – SPOILER

43:15 – Grandma

45:29 – Why miniatures?

51:25 – Lots of positives about the film

1:02:37 – A24

1:03:25 – It Comes at Night – NO SPOILERS

1:03:57 – Martyrs – NO SPOILERS

 

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Hereditary (2018) – www.imdb.com/title/tt7784604 SPOILERS IN THIS EPISODE!  Thanks for listening, please let us know if you are! “Horror films are our collective nightmares.” FILMS MENTIONED THIS EPISODE Proxy (2013) – NO SPOILERS Se7en (1995) – MINOR SPOILERS It Comes At Night (2017) – NO SPOILERS Martyrs (2008) – NO SPOILERS Revenge  (2017) – MINOR … Continue reading "Hereditary (2018)"

Revenge (2017) SPOILERS IN THIS EPISODE!  Revenge (2017) I Spit On Your Grave (1978) Martyrs (2008) Very Bad Things (1998) NOTE on Content A note from Marshall about this and the episodes of Collective Nightmares focusing on rape-revenge films. The representation of particular real life horrors has long been an interest of mine. Monsters, ghosts, … Continue reading "Revenge (2017)"

Revenge (2017)

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Revenge (2017)

I Spit On Your Grave (1978)

Martyrs (2008)

Very Bad Things (1998)

NOTE on Content

A note from Marshall about this and the episodes of Collective Nightmares focusing on rape-revenge films.

The representation of particular real life horrors has long been an interest of mine. Monsters, ghosts, haunted houses, and the other fantastical elements of scary films are clearly interesting to me and Laura. My entry point to the conversation of the politics and problematics of representing real horror began with representations the Holocaust. That conversation in turn was started for me by Lynne Dahlgren who taught Maus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maus in my 20th century novel class at CU Boulder. She was an incredible teacher. More recently, and by that I mean several years ago, I became fascinated with the Sonderkommando after being forwarded this article by a different friend regarding the film Son of Saul https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3808342/ (2015). More on that later. The Holocaust and sexual assault share similarity in that they are not the fantastical. So much discussion of horror films is intellectually interesting or just entertaining. For me, representation real horrors, of historic genocide that is (unbelievably) still doubted, of sexual assault that is a enduring threat and experience of a tragic number of people on this planet, these are things that matter.

Of all the horror films I watch and re-watch precisely because they are horrify me, depictions of sexual assault are difficult for me to process on a different level. Sexual assault in films, whether as plot device, threat, or assault, is by far the most upsetting to me. My areas of focus for my PhD included gender and sexuality. I have taught these classes in colleges and universities for many years. The rate of sexual assault in the U.S. and globally, and the lack of will and action to address it, is offensive, infuriating, and sad beyond words. That these rates of assault have remained remarkably stable in so many places for so many years is an utter failure of humanity and modern civilization. These are very personal and serious topics for me.  

There are justifiable reasons for including sexual assault in media. But this must be done with respect for victims, survivors, advocates, allies, and everyone impacted by the experience and threat of sexual assault. It must be done with thought, care, intention, and concern for how any representation of sexual assault will be distributed and interpreted out in the world. 

With all that in mind, we have decided to approach the sub-genre of rape-revenge films. Should our discussion cause you concern of any kind please let us know your thoughts. 

– Marshall

Resources:

National Sexual Assault Hotline 1-800-656-4673

https://www.rainn.org/

This episode in particular was inspired by this article from Vice written by Sarah Fensom (https://www.vice.com/en_us/contributor/sarah-fensom). I sent it to Laura when it came out and she just recently turned it around and agreed that the film was something we should address. So now here we are, leaning in to sexual assault in horror for better or for worse.

As always, thanks for listening (if anyone actually is listening). Please let us know if you are!

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