Collective Nightmares

Collective Nightmares – The Tall Man (2012) (2008) https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/collective-nightmares/id1323255235 We continue April-Laugier with a discussion of the film The Tall Man (2012). This is Pascal Laugier’s film subsequent to Martyrs (2008). We recorded this episode prior to the Martyrs episode. In fact, this film inspired us to watch Martyrs again. We wanted to post our … Continue reading "The Tall Man"

Collective Nightmares – The Tall Man (2012) (2008)

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/collective-nightmares/id1323255235

We continue April-Laugier with a discussion of the film The Tall Man (2012). This is Pascal Laugier’s film subsequent to Martyrs (2008). We recorded this episode prior to the Martyrs episode. In fact, this film inspired us to watch Martyrs again. We wanted to post our discussions in order that Laugier created the films.

Laugier’s newest film Ghostland (2018) is being released this coming Thursday April 18th, 2018! We are excited, optimistic, and hopeful for this film! We will post our discussion of Ghostland just as soon as we are able to see it. However, I have yet to see it listed as showing in Denver theaters. So we will return to April-Laugier as soon as possible.

SPOILERS IN THIS EPISODE FOR BOTH THE TALL MAN (2018) AND MARTYRS (2012)

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“Horror films are our collective nightmares.” Robin Wood.

SPOILERS BELOW

The Tall Man – Topic Index

4:59 – Laura begins our critique

8:49 – Unconvincing bleakness and lacking characters

13:27 – About that voice-over

16:03 – Ambition and pacing

16:44 – Music

17:50 – Similarities to Martyrs

20:11 – Emotional investment in characters and character motivations

23:02 – Gender politics?

25:06 – Provoking questions in Tall Man

27:28 – Compare to provoking questions in Martyrs

31:08 – What would have been interesting

33:03 – Emotional struggle

36:56 – The Tall Man as advocating a neoliberal argument

38:08 – The UN comes to the US to highlight our extreme inequality and poverty

“As the UN special rapporteur himself put it: “Washington is very keen for me to point out the poverty and human rights failings in other countries. This time I’m in the US.”'”

39:35 – Colonial concerns about removing kids from homes as evidenced by U.S. history of removing Native American children from homes. Some more info here.

40:05 – A note on human “instincts”

44:52 – The acting vs the writing

45:51 – How would we have improved the film?

50:05 – Ghostland

50:19 – The Odyssey

52:21 Compare to

Collective Nightmares – The Tall Man (2012) (2008) https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/collective-nightmares/id1323255235 We continue April-Laugier with a discussion of the film The Tall Man (2012). This is Pascal Laugier’s film subsequent to Martyrs (2008). We recorded this episode prior to the Martyrs episode. In fact, this film inspired us to watch Martyrs again. We wanted to post our … Continue reading "The Tall Man"

Collective Nightmares – Martyrs (2008) https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/collective-nightmares/id1323255235 Chain yourselves to your headphones! This is our longest episode yet. And it is our longest episode because the film for this episode deserves all the discussion and more! We are talking about Pascal Laugier’s 2008 film Martyrs. Laugier’s newest film Ghostland is slated to be released later this … Continue reading "Martyrs"

Collective Nightmares – Martyrs (2008)

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/collective-nightmares/id1323255235

Chain yourselves to your headphones! This is our longest episode yet. And it is our longest episode because the film for this episode deserves all the discussion and more! We are talking about Pascal Laugier’s 2008 film Martyrs.

Laugier’s newest film Ghostland is slated to be released later this month. Here at Collective Nightmares we are aquiver with anticipation for this film. Thus, this is April-Laugier month here on the podcast. This episode we discuss Martyrs. Next episode we will discuss Laugier’s follow-up film from 2012, The Tall Man. Then we will conclude April-Laugier with a discussion of Ghostland (as soon as we have a chance to see it).

A special note on spoilers. This film in particular deserves and demands to be seen without spoilers. Please respect the film and watch it in a dark quiet room before you listen to our podcast.

There are also spoilers for Laugier’s follow-up film The Tall Man toward the end of this episode.

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Topic Index – Martyrs

Intro and why Martyrs?

13:03 – Meta

14:03 – Article on Meta (NEED LINK)

16:10 – Why horror

19:12 – Fun horror vs terror horror

20:09 – Visceral Horror

21:41 – Horror with resolution

24:10 – Philosophical questions

27:35 – Nicholson Baker

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33:45 – Stories we tell ourselves

37:50 – Something about martyrs that we couldn’t remember but it was totally Kristeva on martyrs! Pg. 129

40:17 – The ending

47:30 – Anyone know this reference? (still talking the ending)

49:31 – Nevermind! First post Martyrs moment of joy. 50 minutes in, eesh!

57:35 – The questions of life

59:18 – Situating Martyrs in the horror genre

1:00:34 – Banality of evil

Hannah Arendt – Origins of Totalitarianism

1:01:44 – Ritual vs system (Weber and Durkheim)

1:07:21 – Comparison to Tall Man

1:15:35 – Why the skull contraption?

1:19:47 – Getting out?

1:21:58 – Feminist film?

1:23:08 – Rape

1:24:51 – Camera work

  Montage referenced is at

1:25:37 – Sound design and music

1:29:00 Note: Tubular Bells is the name of the track from The Exorcist

1:29:46 – How would we improve the film?

1:30:06 – Characters

1:34:29 – Types of martyrs

1:37:09 – The Tall Man spoilers! (Laugier’s next film after Martyrs)

1:39:13 – How one woman completely ruined Marshall’s (and everyone else’s who had not seen the film) first viewing of Martyrs and somehow still hosts horror movies at the local art house movie theater. Also, yes, I’m still bitter.

“Horror films are our collective nightmares.” Robin Wood.

Collective Nightmares – Martyrs (2008) https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/collective-nightmares/id1323255235 Chain yourselves to your headphones! This is our longest episode yet. And it is our longest episode because the film for this episode deserves all the discussion and more! We are talking about Pascal Laugier’s 2008 film Martyrs. Laugier’s newest film Ghostland is slated to be released later this … Continue reading "Martyrs"

Collective Nightmares – Get Out (2017) https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/collective-nightmares/id1323255235 Our podcast has spoilers! If you haven’t seen the film, please watch it before listening. Our third episode! We definitely are not recording in the order we post. While we both enjoyed and appreciated Get Out, it is exactly the kind of movie Marshall loves. This led to … Continue reading "Get Out"

Collective Nightmares – Get Out (2017)

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Our podcast has spoilers! If you haven’t seen the film, please watch it before listening.

Our third episode! We definitely are not recording in the order we post.

While we both enjoyed and appreciated Get Out, it is exactly the kind of movie Marshall loves. This led to some good discussion about the differences in what each of us really loves about movies. 

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“Horror films are our collective nightmares.” Robin Wood.

SPOILERS BELOW

Topic Index

1:09 – What if we had a Q&A with Jordan Peele?

1:40 – How ideologically motivated is it?

4:44 – The importance of firsts and pushing the conversation forward

14:11 – Black bodies

17:27 – Jordan Peele (and Keegan-Michael Key)

23:26 – Flipping stereotypes

27:00 – Animals

29:30 – Cops

32:00 – More on racial stereotypes, representation, and privilege.

36:17 – Bingo auction?

37:50 – Marshall gushes about the film

40:23 – Our philosophical differences on what movies should be

Collective Nightmares – Get Out (2017) https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/collective-nightmares/id1323255235 Our podcast has spoilers! If you haven’t seen the film, please watch it before listening. Our third episode! We definitely are not recording in the order we post. While we both enjoyed and appreciated Get Out, it is exactly the kind of movie Marshall loves. This led to … Continue reading "Get Out"

Collective Nightmares – IT (2017) Episode https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/collective-nightmares/id1323255235 Our podcast has spoilers! If you haven’t seen the film, please watch it before listening. Finally, our second podcast episode! Our podcast is an in-depth and sociologically informed discussion of horror films. This episode we discuss the 2017 film It directed by Andy Muschietti. The film is based on … Continue reading "It"