J. Kyle Mann is joined by Tate Frazier from One Shining Podcast as they discuss the ongoing debate over evaluating players based on their physical tools versus their game tape, NIL’s effect on the NBA draft, upside for some of the players who decided to return to school, Michigan’s portal haul, and whether Florida can still be an elite team (02:25). Next, they dive into the Charlotte Hornets, as Tate explains why they should draft Tre Johnson, Brandon Miller's role with the franchise, and whether it's time to move on from LaMelo Ball (31:22).

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Host: J. Kyle Mann
Guest: Tate Frazier
Producer: Jessie Lopez
Additional Production Support: Ben Cruz
Social: Keith Fujimoto

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