John Hollinger joins Danny Leroux and Nate Duncan to break down our rankings of the top players in the NBA. Jokic or Shai at number 1? Who takes the 3rd spot? Where do old lions Steph, KD, and LeBron fall, and how do they compare with the young superstar bigs? How about the bevy of star guards? Plus, we discuss the biggest risers and fallers, the hardest to rank, and the players we think could make us look stupid for having them so low.

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John Hollinger, who may or may not know anything about tanking, and Nate Duncan bandy about the best ideas they and listeners have for curbing the epidemic of tanking that has beset the league.  We go through basically every viable idea, and in the end agree on FOUR things we’d try to implement immediately.

Then, we eliminate two teams from the playoffs and discuss where they’re going from here.

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Jerry Engelmann used to work for the Mavs and the Suns, and now writes for former ESPN editor Royce Webb’s substack where he has been one of the most interesting writers of late with his controversial but data-driven opinions. You can subscribe at roycewebb.com/naterate and get a special deal for Dunc’d On listeners.

We get into a ton of interesting topics, including players Nate thinks might be overrated by Jerry’s metrics and why he disagrees, whether Alex Caruso is one of the best defensive players this century, the Hornets potentially trading for Anthony Davis, what the data says about injuries, and which players fall into Jerry’s “Quagmire” category that he believes no teams should ever acquire.

Jerry was also the creator of ESPN’s RPM, and he discusses the new metrics that he has up at xrapm.com.

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John and Nate look back at their picks with Zach Lowe from last year of which stars were most likely to change teams by the start of the 2025-26 season. 

Then, the same exercise this year, as they pick which stars could be on the move between now and the start of the 2026-27 season.

They also discuss whether the Jazz being fined $100,000 will cause them to mend their tanking ways.

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John and Nate discuss our coach rankings! What makes a great NBA coach, and how can coaches be evaluated? Then, we rank our top group of coaches in the league. 

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• Anjali Ranadive
• Domantas Sabonis
• Sacramento Kings
• De'Aaron Fox-Mike Brown
• Draymond Green/Karl-Anthony Towns
• Jalen Brunson
• Mark Cuban
• Payton Pritchard-Derrick White
• 3-1 lead
• 2005-06 SuperSonics

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Nate Duncan and John Hollinger revisit the 2024 NBA trade deadline, re-evaluating the biggest moves, the teams that improved (or didn't), and the deals that didn't happen but should have. They also discuss the latest developments with Victor Wembanyama's health and San Antonio’s future.

OKC’s Stealth Salary Dump & the Gordon Hayward Trade (00:44)

• The Thunder’s move to clear salary space for Isaiah Hartenstein.
• Gordon Hayward’s underwhelming stint and OKC’s decision to prioritize future flexibility.
• Debate: Would OKC have been better off going after OG Anunoby or Pascal Siakam?

Dallas Mavericks’ Deadline Moves & Playoff Impact (05:06)

• Initial skepticism about acquiring Daniel Gafford & P.J. Washington.
• How both played key roles in Dallas’ Western Conference Finals run.
• The risk of giving up draft control from 2027-2030.
• In hindsight, a clear win for the Mavericks.

The James Harden Trade: Did the Clippers Win? (10:00)

• Clippers gave up future assets for Harden, but did it pay off?
• Sixers’ long-term play: Did Daryl Morey make the right call?
• Clippers' lack of draft control from 2027-2030 could limit future flexibility.

Toronto Raptors’ Trade Strategy (15:00)

• Evaluating the OG Anunoby and Pascal Siakam trades.
• Why the Raptors prioritized players over picks.
• The case for and against RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley as core pieces.
• How does Brandon Ingram fit into the Raptors' long-term plans?

Indiana Pacers’ Pascal Siakam Trade & Fit (23:05)

• Siakam’s seamless fit next to Myles Turner and Tyrese Haliburton.
• Was he the better choice over Brandon Ingram?
• The Pacers’ salary cap challenges moving forward.

Miami Heat’s Terry Rozier Trade: A Disaster? (31:30)

• Rozier’s struggles in Miami.
• The Heat’s miscalculation on their championship window.
• The future of Miami’s draft pick situation.

Chicago Bulls’ Trade Deadline Inactivity (43:42)

• Bulls failing to trade Alex Caruso, DeMar DeRozan, or Andre Drummond.
• Could OKC have traded Josh Giddey for Caruso at the deadline?
• How Chicago mismanaged DeRozan’s value and ended up with a poor return in free agency.

Portland Trail Blazers’ Missed Opportunities (46:00)

• Holding onto Jerami Grant and Anfernee Simons instead of capitalizing on their trade value.
• The declining value of Grant’s contract.
• Could Portland have gotten a P.J. Washington-like return for Grant?

Smaller Deadline Moves & Their Impact (51:00)

• Memphis Grizzlies getting a surprise draft asset for David Roddy.
• Houston Rockets trading for Steven Adams and how he fits.
• The Boston Celtics’ trade for Xavier Tillman paying off in the NBA Finals.

Victor Wembanyama’s Health & Spurs’ Future (54:00)

• Impact of Wembanyama’s injury on San Antonio’s rebuild.
• The Spurs’ roster needs: Who stays and who could be replaced?
• Should the Spurs consider a coaching change?
• Could Chris Paul be a buyout candidate?

Final Thoughts & Playoff Elimination (1:00:00)

• San Antonio officially eliminated from the playoffs.
• Reflecting on the biggest winners and losers from the 2024 trade deadline.
• Wrapping up with audience Q&A and discussion of future trade market implications.

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John Hollinger joins Nate Duncan to discuss the best and worst of the 2025 Trade Deadline.  They hit on the biggest winners and losers, their single favorite and least favorite moves, which teams improved the most for this year, and the biggest trends from deadline season.  Plus, our annual Shuffling the Deck Chairs award.

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John joins us for a special unplanned H&D in which he gives us his special front office insight on what went down in Dallas, plus our evaluations of the Fox trade.

On Luka:

• What the Mavs’ process was–and how it got circumvented
• Whether AD was the best they could have done to win now
• Whether it was a rational decision not to “shop” Luka
• Do we buy that Jason Kidd didn’t know this trade was coming?
• Nico Harrison’s comments about a 3-4 year horizon
• If Dennis Lindsey still being in Dallas would have changed things
• How much did this trade change our priors on what Luka is as a player?
• Is it possible Luka doesn’t stay in LA?

On Fox:

• Why the Kings did ok here.
• Does this trade enable the Bulls to turn over a new leaf, or the same dead leaf over and over again?

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• Mavericks-76ers trade
• Warriors-Kevin Durant
• Golden State Warriors
• Luka Doncic
• Luka Doncic trade
• Thunder-Hornets trade
• De'Aaron Fox trade
• Dunc'd On Live
• Cap sheets
• MLE trades

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John gives his unique insight on the De’Aaron Fox trade request, and we get into every aspect: How much do the Spurs value their young players like Devin Vassell and Stephon Castle? How much do the Kings value staying competitive, or getting their 2031 pick swap back?  How much are Fox and Rich Paul going to step on the scales to get to San Antonio–and how much are the Spurs willing to go all-in on Fox as the guy next to Victor Wembanyama? Plus, which other teams should get involved and what should their offers be?

John and Nate also discuss the recent mock trade deadline, plus hit on what the Pacers or Hawks might do at the deadline.

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John and Nate begin by analyzing the Nick Richards/Josh Okogie trade, and then John comments on the comments by the Warriors’ principals on the trade deadline.

The meat of the show is our discussion of teams we’ve concluded have no chance to make the playoffs this year, and what their next steps are to return to relevance.  Brooklyn (11:32), New Orleans (20:37) , Charlotte (30:48), and Portland (38:48) are discussed.

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