Gary Varvel and I discuss his hair and how sissified he likes his coffee. Then we talk about Calvin and Hobbes. We commiserate about bad speaking gigs and eventually get around to talking politics. Gary jumps up on a soapbox and preaches supply side economics. We don't get thrown out of Panera so we talk about Donald Trump. Then we discuss the dreadfulness that is corporate award ceremonies. Gary explains what he can do to help other cartoonists.  Then he starts talking religion and we run out of time...

Here are some of the links from Gary's shameless plugs:

http://www.houseofgracefilms.org/the-war-within/

https://www.youtube.com/varvelinsider

https://www.facebook.com/Gary-Varvel-216216295106639/