Bob Smiley shows up to let me know he's impressed with the dismal quality of my recordings. We discuss whether or not bad people can be good leaders. There's more commentary about those People Who Occupy The Center Of The Universe. Smiley tells about his habit of picking fights with strangers. Ultimately we figure out who makes the best pizza in the United States (and it IS NOT Chuck E. Cheese). Carl, feel free to sound off on this (or any other) topic.