January 10, 2022

Complex systems & second-order effects (Changelog Interviews #474)

1 hour 10 minutes

Paul Orlando joins Jerod to talk through some unintended consequences that occur when systems operate at scale. We discuss Goodhart’s Law, The Cobra Effect, how to design incentive systems, dependency management decisions, the risks of autonomous vehicles, and much more along the way.

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Featuring:

Paul Orlando – Website, LinkedIn, X
Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

Show Notes:

The Unintended Consequences blog

A New Morality of Attainment (Goodhart’s Law)

The Cobra Effect Redesigned (Examples & Antidotes)

The Cobra Effect (Part 2)

Uncertainty Saves Lives – the Peltzman Effect

Garmin Hack and Dependence

Autonomous Vehicles and Scaling Risk

A Pattern Language

Growth Units: Learn to Calculate Customer Acquisition Cost

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