Chris Vannini and David Ubben are joined by Connor Stalions, he of Michigan sign-stealing fame. Stalions talks about the NCAA penalties against him, how sign-stealing actually works, why he was on the Central Michigan-Michigan State sideline and what it's like being in an NCAA investigation. He also breaks down the big Michigan-Oklahoma matchup, explains why Michigan and Big Ten schools were late to NIL but have jumped in now, and he answers the question of whether he has any regrets. 

Story explaining the NCAA's penalties against Stalions, Harbaugh and Michigan

0:00 Intro
3:35 Connor Stalions joins the show
3:50 What pond did he throw his phone in?
4:18 Reaction to NCAA penalties against him and Michigan
6:21 How he deciphered signals
11:26 Did he go further than other sign-stealers? 
12:37 How valuable is sign-stealing?
16:05 Being involved in an NCAA investigation
18:12 What do other teams do?
21:04 Being on the Central Michigan sideline at Michigan State
23:10 Former assistant Chris Partridge was cleared of allegations 
28:15 The mystery behind who tipped off the PI firm and the NCAA
30:55 Ohio State's reaction to the scandal and penalties 
37:38 Denying the rumor he shared Tennessee signals to South Carolina in 2022
41:38 What's next for him
43:13 Michigan vs. Oklahoma breakdown
52:35 Michigan landing Bryce Underwood and upping its NIL/rev-share game 
56:44 What other ways are schools trying to skirt rules?
1:02:10 Have any regrets?
1:06:09 Final thoughts

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