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(sound of bath draining, at first with a strong oscillating rhythm followed by water flowing and silence)
It goes down the drain (again) and into the sewer system to be processed and dumped into the Ottawa river, then it evaporates into the sky and it rains back into our lakes and rivers, bringing with it with many pollutants, and then is pumped into our homes, in our bodies and heated until… (repeated and improvised)
Where does your bathwater go?
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The rhythm comes from this sound of my bathtub draining, which occurs from the pressure on the tub that creates an oscillation.
I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this episode. (including all the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation and infrastructure that make this podcast possible).
My gesture of reciprocity for this episode is a donation to the Ottawa Riverkeeper.
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Note : I'm currently 'pressing pause' and am not producing new content until further notice.
Hey conscient listeners,
I’ve been producing the conscient podcast as a learning and unlearning journey since May 2020. It’s my way to give back.
This Indigenous Land Acknowledgement statement was developed by members of the Algonquin community for my former employer the Canada Council for the Arts. I have adapted slightly to make it my own.
In parallel with the production of the conscient podcast and its francophone counterpart, balado conscient, I I publish a free ‘a calm presence' monthly Substack see https://acalmpresence.substack.com.
Your feedback is always welcome at claude [at] conscient [dot] ca and/or on social media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, Threads, BlueSky, Mastodon, Tik Tok, YouTube and Substack.
Share what you like, etc
I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this podcast, including the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation systems and infrastructure that made this production possible.
Thanks for listening.
Claude Schryer
Latest update on March 21, 2026
(bell and breath)
On December 19th, 2022 I read David Maggs’ Art and the Ouija Board? blog, as part of his Metcalf Foundation Fellow on Arts and Society.
I was struck by this section in particular:
(3 minute ‘A Soundwalk in the Rain of St. John’s, NFLD’ 1992 by Claude Schryer)
Thank you David. Thank you David for your series of blogs on the relationship between art and transformation. Now David is from Newfoundland, which reminded me of a piece I recorded on July 2nd, 1992, at 2.20pm called A Soundwalk in the Rain of St. John’s, NFLD where I was a radio artist in residence at Sound Symposium 6.
How can we listen through art?
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Thanks to David Maggs and the Metcalf Foundation for your important work. David and I were co-founders of the Sectoral Climate Arts Leadership for the Emergency (SCALE) and have had many fruitful exchanges over the years. I admire his courage and encourage you to subscribe to his Dispatches (at the bottom of the page)
I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this episode. (including all the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation and infrastructure that make this podcast possible).
My gesture of reciprocity for this episode is a donation to the First Light St-John’s Friendship Centre.
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Note : I'm currently 'pressing pause' and am not producing new content until further notice.
Hey conscient listeners,
I’ve been producing the conscient podcast as a learning and unlearning journey since May 2020. It’s my way to give back.
This Indigenous Land Acknowledgement statement was developed by members of the Algonquin community for my former employer the Canada Council for the Arts. I have adapted slightly to make it my own.
In parallel with the production of the conscient podcast and its francophone counterpart, balado conscient, I I publish a free ‘a calm presence' monthly Substack see https://acalmpresence.substack.com.
Your feedback is always welcome at claude [at] conscient [dot] ca and/or on social media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, Threads, BlueSky, Mastodon, Tik Tok, YouTube and Substack.
Share what you like, etc
I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this podcast, including the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation systems and infrastructure that made this production possible.
Thanks for listening.
Claude Schryer
Latest update on March 21, 2026
(Sound of fire)
This is another fireside storytelling episode, this time by a wood stove at our cottage. Thanks for joining me. Pull up a chair…
As I mentioned in episode 106, sometimes, when I get discouraged I like to build a fire, like this, to lift my spirits and to re-energize.
(Sound of fire)
Today’s story is an excerpt from Part 1, Warm Up : Into The Future from Vanessa Andreotti’s Hospicing Modernity book, written by the Gesturing Towards Decolonial Futures collective. I first heard this story, in audio form, while driving through a severe snowstorm on January 19th 2022.
(rumble of car)
The road was very slippery. I could hardly see. I probably should have stopped but I was mesmerized by the story and kept driving through the storm, not knowing how my trip or this story might end. I recall that the story inhabited my body and my spirit that day, where it remains. I believe that stories,, including speculative fiction, have that ability to sit with us and guide us through life.
So, this story places you on December 10 2048, one hundred years after the universal declaration of human rights. You are in a 3D virtual reality world conference where people are gathered to decide the direction of education after a period of catastrophic events.
I’ll read you a short excerpt now from the end.
What speculative fiction stories inhabit you?
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Thanks to the Gesturing Towards Decolonial Futures collective for use of the story in this context and to collective member Azul Carolina Duque for her advice.
I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this episode. (including all the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation and infrastructure that make this podcast possible).
My gesture of reciprocity for this episode is a donation to the South American Indigenous Network Emergency Fund
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Note : I'm currently 'pressing pause' and am not producing new content until further notice.
Hey conscient listeners,
I’ve been producing the conscient podcast as a learning and unlearning journey since May 2020. It’s my way to give back.
This Indigenous Land Acknowledgement statement was developed by members of the Algonquin community for my former employer the Canada Council for the Arts. I have adapted slightly to make it my own.
In parallel with the production of the conscient podcast and its francophone counterpart, balado conscient, I I publish a free ‘a calm presence' monthly Substack see https://acalmpresence.substack.com.
Your feedback is always welcome at claude [at] conscient [dot] ca and/or on social media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, Threads, BlueSky, Mastodon, Tik Tok, YouTube and Substack.
Share what you like, etc
I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this podcast, including the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation systems and infrastructure that made this production possible.
Thanks for listening.
Claude Schryer
Latest update on March 21, 2026
(bell and breath)
Today's episode does not have any sound other than my voice and a series of silences. And I think you’ll understand why in a minute.
(Silence)
Writer and broadcaster Jesse Wente, author of Unreconciled, became the first indigenous person to chair the Canada Council for the Arts during the summer of 2020, a few weeks before I retired from the Council.
(Silence)
In an August 6, 2020 interview with the Toronto Star, I was deeply moved by what Jesse said.
(Silence)
I invite you to think about this statement. In fact, I invite you to explore your feelings about this statement.
(Silence)
Jesse goes on in that same Toronto Star interview to say :
(Silence)
Now I could not find a sound in our modern world to respectfully accompany Jesse’s words and his questions.
(Silence)
The only sound, or absence of sound, so to speak, that made sense to me was silence.
(Silence)
Jesse asks us to think about what the role of the arts sector in helping to define what recovery and restoration look like, and if I may add, what it might sound like.
(Silence)
Jesse also invites us to imagine what a new world might look, or sound like.
(Silence)
My question for you is ‘What do you not know?’
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I would like to thank Jesse Wente for his kind permission to use his quotations from this interview in this context. Thanks also to the article authors Karen Fricker and Carly Maga and the Toronto Star and the Canada Council for the Arts.
I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this episode. (including all the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation and infrastructure that make this podcast possible).
My gesture of reciprocity for this episode is a donation to the Anishnawbe Health Foundation.
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END NOTES FOR ALL EPISODES
Note : I'm currently 'pressing pause' and am not producing new content until further notice.
Hey conscient listeners,
I’ve been producing the conscient podcast as a learning and unlearning journey since May 2020. It’s my way to give back.
This Indigenous Land Acknowledgement statement was developed by members of the Algonquin community for my former employer the Canada Council for the Arts. I have adapted slightly to make it my own.
In parallel with the production of the conscient podcast and its francophone counterpart, balado conscient, I I publish a free ‘a calm presence' monthly Substack see https://acalmpresence.substack.com.
Your feedback is always welcome at claude [at] conscient [dot] ca and/or on social media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, Threads, BlueSky, Mastodon, Tik Tok, YouTube and Substack.
Share what you like, etc
I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this podcast, including the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation systems and infrastructure that made this production possible.
Thanks for listening.
Claude Schryer
Latest update on March 21, 2026
(bell and breath)
(sound of campfire)
I invite you to slow down, or maybe stop, what you’re doing and listen to a campfire story
We’re sitting in the snow, by the Preston River in Duhamel, Québec. The snow absorbs the sound here but it is also slightly amplified by the cottage and frozen trees. It's raining so you also hear drops of water, snow and ice falling in between the fire crackles.
Sometimes, when I get discouraged about the ecological crisis, I build a campfire like this to lift my spirits and re-energize.
Campfires are also a great place to tell and listen to stories that engage your emotions.
Today’s story is an excerpt from my conversation with climate photographer Joan Sullivan from e96 – the liminal space between what was and what’s next.
The story begins with Joan taking photos in the winter by the St-Lawrence River near Rimouski :
(River sound continues in background)
Thank you, Joan, for this story and your work as an artist. You can listen to the whole 8 minute story on the conscious podcast e96.
The question for this episode is drawn from Joan’s story :
What can we do about our collective indifference?
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The campfire for this episode was recorded on December 30th, 2022 at our cottage in Duhamel, Québec.
The story is an excerpt from my conversation with climate photographer Joan Sullivan from e96 – the liminal space between what was and what’s next. You can hear the entire story here :-)
The YouTube video version of this episode includes footage from our cottage and from Joan’s Je suis fleuve photo series.For more information on her work see https://www.joansullivanphotography.com
I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this episode. (including all the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation and infrastructure that make this podcast possible).
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END NOTES FOR ALL EPISODES
Note : I'm currently 'pressing pause' and am not producing new content until further notice.
Hey conscient listeners,
I’ve been producing the conscient podcast as a learning and unlearning journey since May 2020. It’s my way to give back.
This Indigenous Land Acknowledgement statement was developed by members of the Algonquin community for my former employer the Canada Council for the Arts. I have adapted slightly to make it my own.
In parallel with the production of the conscient podcast and its francophone counterpart, balado conscient, I I publish a free ‘a calm presence' monthly Substack see https://acalmpresence.substack.com.
Your feedback is always welcome at claude [at] conscient [dot] ca and/or on social media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, Threads, BlueSky, Mastodon, Tik Tok, YouTube and Substack.
Share what you like, etc
I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this podcast, including the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation systems and infrastructure that made this production possible.
Thanks for listening.
Claude Schryer
Latest update on March 21, 2026
This recording is a rope holding a boat to the dock at Toronto Harbour on November 26th, 2022.
Sketches by Sabrina Mathews.
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END NOTES FOR ALL EPISODES
Note : I'm currently 'pressing pause' and am not producing new content until further notice.
Hey conscient listeners,
I’ve been producing the conscient podcast as a learning and unlearning journey since May 2020. It’s my way to give back.
This Indigenous Land Acknowledgement statement was developed by members of the Algonquin community for my former employer the Canada Council for the Arts. I have adapted slightly to make it my own.
In parallel with the production of the conscient podcast and its francophone counterpart, balado conscient, I I publish a free ‘a calm presence' monthly Substack see https://acalmpresence.substack.com.
Your feedback is always welcome at claude [at] conscient [dot] ca and/or on social media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, Threads, BlueSky, Mastodon, Tik Tok, YouTube and Substack.
Share what you like, etc
I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this podcast, including the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation systems and infrastructure that made this production possible.
Thanks for listening.
Claude Schryer
Latest update on March 21, 2026
(bell and breath)
(loud sound of train passing at close distance)
(once the train has passed, cross fade between quiet city and very quiet mountain forest)
(indigenous artist and curator France Trepanier from conscient podcast é55 trépanier - a very small moment in a much larger space, in French):
What does a very small moment in a much larger space sound like?
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This quote is from indigenous artist and curator France Trepanier from conscient podcast é55 trépanier - un petit instant dans un espace beaucoup plus vaste (a very small moment in a much larger space) recorded on June 7, 2021. When I recorded this train I felt great relief once the train had passed, but also a feeling of accountability for the life forms that were masked by the violent rumble of the train.
Thanks to France Trepanier for her permission to use her quote for this episode.
This passing train on Adanac street in Vancouver was recorded on a Zoom H4n Pro audio recorder on October 14th, 2022 at 10am.
I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this episode. (including all the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation and infrastructure that make this podcast possible).
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END NOTES FOR ALL EPISODES
Note : I'm currently 'pressing pause' and am not producing new content until further notice.
Hey conscient listeners,
I’ve been producing the conscient podcast as a learning and unlearning journey since May 2020. It’s my way to give back.
This Indigenous Land Acknowledgement statement was developed by members of the Algonquin community for my former employer the Canada Council for the Arts. I have adapted slightly to make it my own.
In parallel with the production of the conscient podcast and its francophone counterpart, balado conscient, I I publish a free ‘a calm presence' monthly Substack see https://acalmpresence.substack.com.
Your feedback is always welcome at claude [at] conscient [dot] ca and/or on social media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, Threads, BlueSky, Mastodon, Tik Tok, YouTube and Substack.
Share what you like, etc
I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this podcast, including the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation systems and infrastructure that made this production possible.
Thanks for listening.
Claude Schryer
Latest update on March 21, 2026
(sound of bell and breath)
On December 5th 2022 we had a heat pump installed in our house in order to reduce our carbon footprint.
What is a heat pump, you ask? Well, basically, It heats and cools a space by transferring thermal energy from the outside using a refrigeration cycle powered by electricity.
It’s a more environmentally friendly source of heating than say methane gas but it still generates carbon through manufacturing and in the production of electricity to run it. It also does not address the fact that the highest carbon polluters in the world are multinational corporations and nation-states. So what power does one individual household have? Quite a bit actually? The least we can do is change what is within our control, in our own homes and living spaces. That does get us off the hook by any means in terms of our accountabilities but it does move us in the right direction and it feels good to take action . .
Now, let’s get back to my story. Our house was heatless on this day and I was working right here in my second floor studio, when I heard a mysterious tapping sound coming from the basement through the air duct.
(fade in sound of distant tapping)
I stopped working and turned on my audio recorder.
As I listened I felt myself being transformed by the sounds of the heat pump, which, of course, are made of materials from the earth, just like we are.
(fade in indoors heat pump drone)
(fade in external heat pump fan).
(heat pump installation technician from Ottawa Home Services):
What does decarbonization sound like to you?
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This episode was recorded at our home in Ottawa. Thanks to Kevin Taylor and technicians from Ottawa Home Services for their collaboration and to Azul Carolina Duque for her guidance.
While this episode is not directly about art, it has implications in terms of how we listen to the sound of energy around us and how they affect us. In this case, the heat pump is a lesser evil on our environment than a gas furnace but remains an issue. Perhaps our homes are too large to heat and cool for the energy sources available? Maybe we should rethink …. Everything?
My point here is that we need to think about how we heat and cool ourselves but also feel these materials in our bodies and listen to them…
I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this episode. (including all the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation and infrastructure that make this podcast possible).
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END NOTES FOR ALL EPISODES
Note : I'm currently 'pressing pause' and am not producing new content until further notice.
Hey conscient listeners,
I’ve been producing the conscient podcast as a learning and unlearning journey since May 2020. It’s my way to give back.
This Indigenous Land Acknowledgement statement was developed by members of the Algonquin community for my former employer the Canada Council for the Arts. I have adapted slightly to make it my own.
In parallel with the production of the conscient podcast and its francophone counterpart, balado conscient, I I publish a free ‘a calm presence' monthly Substack see https://acalmpresence.substack.com.
Your feedback is always welcome at claude [at] conscient [dot] ca and/or on social media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, Threads, BlueSky, Mastodon, Tik Tok, YouTube and Substack.
Share what you like, etc
I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this podcast, including the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation systems and infrastructure that made this production possible.
Thanks for listening.
Claude Schryer
Latest update on March 21, 2026
(ocean shoreline)
The problem with beauty is that it can distract us from reality.
Sit with me, please, take a moment. Sit and listen…
Over there, about 56 kilometers to the northeast, is the traditional territory of the Musqueam, Squamish and Tsleil-Waututh nations, also known as Vancouver.
Listen to the ocean flowing, like the blood and liquids in your body. We are water.
Listen to the ravens passing by and croaking. They are poetry in motion.
Listen to the city rumbling at a distance, but it's hard to hear, isn’t it? Let me help by filtering out high frequencies…
(cutting out of high frequencies)
Ah, there is the drone of the city.
It’s both beautiful and bewildering, isn’t it?
A plane is coming. I’ll bring back the high frequencies.
(bring back high frequencies)
The sky is littered with aircraft around here - seaplanes, jets, helicopters - but they can have a strong aesthetic effect as they inch their way across the sky, merging with the rumble of the city.
(Fading to silence)
One of the problems with modern aesthetic experiences is that we tend to choose the ones that reinforce our own world view and deny the shit around us.
Dr. Vanessa Andreotti suggests that we learn to ‘hold space for the good, the bad, the ugly and the messed up, within and around’
How can we ‘de-modernize’ art?
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This episode is dedicated to my colleague Hildegard Westerkamp whose voice, from her Kits Beach Soundwalk (1989) composition, was in my head when I wrote the narrative for this episode. I respectfully borrowed her technique of filtering a soundscape as part of a narrative.
The recording was made on a Zoom H4n Pro in one take on Saturday, October 1, 2022 at 8am at the Boat Pass at Winter Cove National Park, Saturna Island, BC.
I thank Dr. Vanessa Andreotti for the use of her words.
I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this episode. (including all the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation and infrastructure that make this podcast possible).
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END NOTES FOR ALL EPISODES
Note : I'm currently 'pressing pause' and am not producing new content until further notice.
Hey conscient listeners,
I’ve been producing the conscient podcast as a learning and unlearning journey since May 2020. It’s my way to give back.
This Indigenous Land Acknowledgement statement was developed by members of the Algonquin community for my former employer the Canada Council for the Arts. I have adapted slightly to make it my own.
In parallel with the production of the conscient podcast and its francophone counterpart, balado conscient, I I publish a free ‘a calm presence' monthly Substack see https://acalmpresence.substack.com.
Your feedback is always welcome at claude [at] conscient [dot] ca and/or on social media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, Threads, BlueSky, Mastodon, Tik Tok, YouTube and Substack.
Share what you like, etc
I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this podcast, including the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation systems and infrastructure that made this production possible.
Thanks for listening.
Claude Schryer
Latest update on March 21, 2026
(Deep breath)
Tension
I was thinking about the tensions in our lives and the art of finding a balance point…
So I went for a sound walk in Vancouver and came upon a piece of fishing line. I brought it home, strung it up and recorded myself plucking it
(sound of fishing line being plucked by hand)
I held the fishing line with my left hand while I gradually reduced the tension with my right hand.
Later that day I went for another soundwalk and came upon a white metal fence. I started to gently tap one of the rods with my middle finger tip, like a heartbeat...
(sound of metal fence rod being tapped)
Finally, as I continued my search for sounds of tension, I came upon another metal fence, this one by the ocean and struck it with a wooden stick while slowly decreasing my walking pace.
(sound of metal fence tapped by a piece of wood)
I invite you to sit with me for a moment and feel these sounds. Try not to think, just feel.
(sound of decreased tension by filtering and slowing down)
How do you feel now ?
(further decrease of tension by filtering and slowing down to silence)
What about now?
(silence)
How do you feel now?
(Deep breath)
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This episode was recorded on a Zoom H4n Pro audio recorder in Vancouver in September, 2022. I composed it as a pilot episode with the intention of exploring somatic and embodied listening. It’s basically a sketch but I thought it would be a good way to start this 4th season of the conscient podcast because it asks an open ended question that will come back again and again throughout this project : how do you feel now?
I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this episode. (including all the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation and infrastructure that make this podcast possible).
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END NOTES FOR ALL EPISODES
Note : I'm currently 'pressing pause' and am not producing new content until further notice.
Hey conscient listeners,
I’ve been producing the conscient podcast as a learning and unlearning journey since May 2020. It’s my way to give back.
This Indigenous Land Acknowledgement statement was developed by members of the Algonquin community for my former employer the Canada Council for the Arts. I have adapted slightly to make it my own.
In parallel with the production of the conscient podcast and its francophone counterpart, balado conscient, I I publish a free ‘a calm presence' monthly Substack see https://acalmpresence.substack.com.
Your feedback is always welcome at claude [at] conscient [dot] ca and/or on social media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, Threads, BlueSky, Mastodon, Tik Tok, YouTube and Substack.
Share what you like, etc
I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this podcast, including the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation systems and infrastructure that made this production possible.
Thanks for listening.
Claude Schryer
Latest update on March 21, 2026
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