Nigel Farage's Reform won more than 40% of seats at May's council elections. The Conservatives lost control of 16 English councils and won 20% of seats - one of the lowest proportions in the past two decades.  
  
How do the Tories make sure they keep right-wing voters at future elections?  
  
Beth talks to shadow chancellor, and former work and pensions secretary, Mel Stride on this episode about that challenge.  
  
He also talks about adapting to life on the opposition benches and why he believes Kemi Badenoch is the right leader for his party.   

Interview with Mel Stride recorded on July 15th.