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"What would life be like without our industry?" asks Mike Bellaman, President and CEO, Associated Builders and Contractors (ABC). The boys talk workforce development, worker choice, meritocracy, technology, 2024 outlook, and a bit of Mike's playing time with the Cleveland Indians. 

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