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Andrew dropped out of engineering school with $50K in student loans, moved back to Pittsburgh, and started at $10 an hour with a sore back and a broom. Fifteen years later he runs his own renovation business in North Carolina and is still on the tools most days.
He and Brad talk about the messy middle: wanting to grow without giving up quality, the free hours that every lead costs, and why he now looks for reasons to disqualify a project. Andrew also covers what success means to him, the gap between top-line revenue and cash flow, the products he swears by, and how he’d rebuild from scratch with $10K and a box of donuts.
In this 35-minute conversation, Brad and Andrew cover:
Key Quote from the Episode:
“For me, the work is the easy part. The business is the hard part.” — Andrew
Chapters
00:00 From engineering school to a $10/hr broom
02:07 Learning the trade from an old-timer
03:02 Restoration, framing, kitchen & bath, and starting the LLC
03:57 COVID and going full time
06:28 Subbing out work and keeping quality high
08:08 The messy middle
09:29 What success looks like
10:52 Top of the ledger vs. bottom of the ledger
11:31 Disqualifying leads instead of qualifying them
14:49 QuickBooks estimates and saved texts
16:11 CRMs, automation, and the learning curve
19:32 Where the leads come from
22:19 Google LSAs and other lead sources
23:05 Advice to young Andrew: build relationships
26:09 Hills to die on: Estwing, Lexel, and AI renderings
28:37 Starting over with $10K
32:01 Advice for new tradesmen and business owners
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Logan never planned to start a construction company. A professor asked if he could hang drywall, then frame a window, then flip a whole house. Three years later, Oak and Stone is a six-man crew in Pennsylvania building decks, garages and pole barns, and it’s heading into full home builds.
In this 40-minute conversation, Brad and Logan cover:
Key Quote from the Episode:
“If you can find somebody that can do the job 70% as well as you can, hire them. Because you can’t grow your business if you’re working in the business.” — Logan
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What does it take to walk off a commercial job site one afternoon and build your own company from scratch? In this episode of ContractorWorldLand, California contractor Ryder breaks down his first seven months running his own remodel and plumbing business, which went from day one to $224,000 in revenue.
In this 30-minute conversation, Brad and Ryder cover:
Key Quote from the Episode:
"I was calling up people from three years ago... 'If you got overflow, man, I'm probably gonna be going out on my own. So give me a call.' And guess what happened? They called me." — Ryder
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What does it actually take to walk away from a steady paycheck and bet on yourself in the trades? In this episode of ContractorWorldLand, Florida contractor Zack breaks down his jump from working two nights a week behind a bar to building a thriving solo business.
In this fast-paced 12-minute conversation, Brad and Zack cover:
Key Quote from the Episode:
"Make sure you have one or two core skills you can always fall back on... and don't be scared to spend a little money on tools—it will save you time every single day." — Zack
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Kaleb has been on roofs for 30 years. It started with his dad taking him out on jobs at 7 or 8 to pick up paper wrappers, and by 16 he was running crews. In his early twenties he took out a loan and bought the sheet metal part of his dad's business, then built his name soldering copper when few people in his area were doing it.
Copper Masters Roofing grew out of that, and after the 2023 hail season it grew into full roofing, with a 4-5 person office behind it. Then the market flooded. He was bidding 390-480 a square while some PE-backed companies were in the 200s and low 300s, so he scaled back to himself, a project manager, and the same family crew he's worked with for about 18 years.
Kaleb talks about building a national following of about 10,000 by following roofers across the country and showing up at the expos, and about walking into bids with a baseline number and photos of the job.
He gets into what he'd do first with $10K if he had to start over (phones, bookkeeping, project management software, bulk material), why he tells new contractors not to commingle funds and to give every dollar a job, and why quality over quantity is the hill he'll die on.
Success for him now is being home for dinner.
Chapters:
00:00 Copper Masters started with copper flashing
00:51 From flashing to full roofing
02:47 Scaling down from a 4-5 person office
05:19 Getting caught up in the "rah-rah"
08:47 Rebranding back to Kaldera Construction
10:00 Missed calls and who answers the phone
12:22 Where the leads come from
14:48 Building a national audience through social and expos
17:15 Staying tight with local builders
19:54 Walking in with a baseline bid and photos
24:29 Growing up on the roof with his dad
28:46 Advice to day-one Kaleb: finances
33:42 Bookkeeping and project management software
36:34 Speaking at the JobTread event and The Social Charge
39:12 What success looks like now
42:32 Quality over quantity
43:53 Starting over with $10K
46:11 Advice for new roofers
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We sat down with Jim Tocci from Candid to talk about the thing that quietly kills contractor growth: doing everything yourself because it worked when you had nothing. Jim's spent years outsourcing estimating for residential and commercial builders, and he breaks down why contractors backburner estimating specifically, why "comfort" is really just control in disguise, and how pricing jobs too low to win the next one traps guys in a cycle for years. We also get into the metrics-based estimating approach (why chasing every line item to the penny is a waste of time), Google Sheets vs. custom software, and his honest take on why every contractor needs a business coach — even when it doesn't feel like it makes sense.
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Joseph Bowers didn't set out to build an empire — he set out to make sawdust. After a brutal first run at general contracting nearly cost him everything, Joseph walked away, took a job as a project manager at a high-end firm, and came back with a completely different definition of success.
Now running a solo fine finish, millwork, and cabinetry business out of the Boston/Lakes Region area, he's not chasing revenue — he's chasing peace.
In this episode, Joseph and Brad dig into why "happy" and "peaceful" aren't the same thing, how relationship-building (not marketing) actually wins builder and designer accounts, and why the way you make a client feel matters just as much as the quality of your miters.
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Gardner of Barnhouse Custom Homes joins the podcast to talk about building a custom home company in Kansas from scratch — no local connections, no playbook, just a leap of faith and a spec house funded by selling a restored classic Ford Bronco.
We dig into sourcing reclaimed barn timber from Pennsylvania, why he prefers small, direct-communication subcontractor relationships over bigger crews, the technology tools he's still learning to fully use, and his honest take on chasing work-life balance as a builder and father.
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This episode of 50 Contractors, 50 States takes us to Minnesota, where Nick Krogstad of Krogstad Remodeling breaks down how he doubled his revenue — from $560K to over $1M — without taking on more jobs. We talk through his shift from markup to margin-based bidding, how tightening up project scopes stopped profit leaks, how AI now handles hours of admin work, and why one strong designer relationship outperforms paid ads for lead generation.
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Contractor World Land is the podcast dedicated to elevating the construction and trade industry through authentic, high-value conversations. Each week, we bring you inside the minds of residential and commercial contractors, specialty trade leaders, and industry innovators who are actively redefining what success looks like on and off the job site.
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