Controlled Chaos with Day&Dread

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CIY hosts relevant episodes that will train, teach and inspire you on your journey in ministry. In this episode, you'll hear from junior high ministry experts Kurt Johnston, author of the book, "Controlled Chaos" and Justin Herman, host of the Controlled Chaos Podcast. They join the WebCast to talk about creating a magnetic junior high ministry, attracting them and keeping them.

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Recruiting Volunteers—Justin and Kurt

Why Summer is the best time to recruit leaders

You have a lot of fun events and gives people a taste of students at their craziest. Get a leader to see the beauty in that and they will go crazy over them in group.

You can’t take the summer off from recruiting cause fall is coming

Language to use

What did you do last year to say you moved the needle on spiritual life in me and around me?

No matter the answer ask them about investing in a Jr. High Student this year. Everyone had someone or wished they had someone and they can pay it forward or be the person they needed.

Don’t say someone’s no for them

Make the ask and let them say no. Don’t be afraid to ask

Have a 2-3 minute elevator pitch

Your best recruiters are people already serving and attending.

Who in their circle can they ask?

Get students to ask.

Invite them into something specific

Don’t have eyes bigger than your stomach

Are you ready if you grew by 10 leaders tomorrow? Is there is a plan and process in place so they are not in the queue for 6 months?

Katie Edwards (DYM Podcast and Saddleback Church)

Connecting with females in your youth ministry

Focus on the times you are with them weekly. Have those spaces to have significant conversations.

Healthy touch is important

A high five is touch. It does not always have to be a hug.

Great eye contact and get rid of distractions. Give warmth in your voice and how you ask questions

Keeping volunteers

Create a family community that will minister to the family (their students)

Katie-isms to cast vision and leadership

People over protocol, people over programs. Love people well. The goal is love and care for people if they are in the church or not.

Innovation and Newness to the ministry

Never Stop Learning. Learning leads to innovation

Evolve with what’s best for the kids—think of new ways to communicate

When brainstorming make sure you have different thinkers, ages, and other

different types of people

Don’t skip the debrief—successful idea/event or not

Make sure you understand the audience. The more you know the lower your frustration will be and help you be more effective

Practice and experience things together with a middle schooler. (serving, learning scripture, etc)

Missions

Getting them into environments with they partner with the local church in other spaces

Expands their view of the kingdom

Helps them see outside of themselves

Middle schoolers are fearless and are willing to step into things and having a life changing experience like that can get them into next level ministry

Find an organization that your church trusts to take care of the “scary stuff” and then you can just be with the students

 

Mike Branton (Christ in Youth)

Environments—Where you meet is just as important as what you are meeting about

How will they hear if we are not intentional about the space

First impression for families

You may only get one chance with a parent. Make your space so it looks like you knew they were coming.

You don’t have an excuse for not being intentional with what you have

Having a clean space is vital.

It is an act of worship to have a clean space (Think tabernacle in OT)

Things your environment should help communicate

Signage (from street to seat)

Safety

Specific age

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Whose on this episode? 

Justin Herman LINKTREE

Kurt Johnston Saddleback.com

Saddleback Parent Ministry

Parent Skills Podcast

Mark Oestreicher The Youth Cartel

Jeff Wallace

Ben Trueblood

Caleb Kaltenbach.

 

Mark Oestreicher  #13 thing he loves about Jr. High Students

You can still take ‘em

 Ben Trueblood(Lifeway Students, Director of Student Ministry)

Parent Ministry

How do you get parents to embrace their role as spiritual leaders?

Use different phrasing and equip them. Many do not know how to disciple. So disciple the parents. By: Groups for parents, or student pastor jumping in, or partner with other ministry environments. You can start with a few parents and then send them out to disciple others.

Don’t try and be a Subject Matter Expert on parenting if you are not.

Jeff Wallace(Right Now Media, Director of LYFT tour and Youth Pastor Summit)

Student Leader Selection Process

No need to be rooted or long but you need a step to make sure they are serious

Ask Grade

Ask their passion

Ask how they define leadership and why they want to lead

Put references but don’t make a big deal (ask for a teacher or coach who has seen them lead)

Caleb Kaltenbach (Founder of The Messy Grace Group)

How do you handle LGBTQ?

You need to be having conversations about this, so you do not overreact when it happens.

Ask questions and set appropriate boundaries. Ask questions and do not throw out Bible verses.

Thank them for trusting you and dig deep to get to know more

You must be comfortable with them coming and not correcting everything they do

Still, need boundaries like with heterosexual students

Dating couples in different cabins and groups

Your job is not to fix them

It is your job to help them identify with Jesus more and make that their primary identity

It is not about behavior anymore but more about how they identify

Be intentional in all things you teach and how you reach (1 Cor. 9:19-23)

Trans-students?

Tread carefully. You do not want to embarrass or humiliate a student. Each situation is different, and conversations are essential.

Always remember to live in grace and truth

Links:

Ben Trueblood Links

Lifeway Students

Ben's Twitter

Ben's Books

Jeff Wallace Links

Jeff's Twitter

Student Leadership University

Caleb Kaltenbach Links

Caleb's Website

Messy Grace Group

Caleb's Books

Controlled Chaos Links

 

Meet the HOST!

Justin Herman

Go to controlledchaos.fun/Justin for all his links! 

Question or Show ideas? Email Justin!

Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

Thank you for tuning in.  The work youth workers do hard work, thank you! Thank you for taking the time to get a little more equipped to do Junior High or Middle School Ministry in your Youth Ministry or Student Ministry at your church.  Keep it up!

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A Junior High Podcast for youth workers.

With some culture, leadership and other stuff along the way!

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Places to find the podcast

Our Youtube Page

Controlled Chaos Blog

Social Media Links

Campference

Go to controlledchaos.fun/linktree for all our links! 

 

Whose on this episode? 

Justin Herman LINKTREE

Kurt Johnston Saddleback Church

Mark Oestreicher The Youth Cartel

Andrew Stanley

@AndrewWStanley on Instagram

-Andrews WEBSITE

-Book Andrew HERE

-Andrew on our friend Carey Nieuwhofs PODCAST

Colby Taylor Mariners Church

 

Meet the HOST!

Justin Herman

Go to controlledchaos.fun/Justin for all his links! 

Question or Show ideas? Email Justin!

Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

Thank you for tuning in.  The work youth workers do is hard work, thank you! Thank you for taking time to get a little more equipped to do Junior High or Middle School Ministry in your Youth Ministry or Student Ministry at your church.  Keep it up!

Christ in Youth, our exclusive podcast partner!!!!

For more information about

Christ in Youth our Podcast Partner

Email Sign-ups

Places to find the podcast

Our Youtube Page

Controlled Chaos Blog

Social Media Links

Campference

Go to controlledchaos.fun/linktree for all our links! 

Brief Outline

03:41 Kurt and Justin talk Summer Camp Secret Sauce

21:12 MARKO #11 thing he loves about Junior High.

24:44 Andrew Klavan Interview

Whose on this episode? 

Justin Herman LINKTREE

Kurt Johnston

Mark Oestreicher The Youth Cartel

Andrew Klavan WEBSITE

-Andrews New Book Another Kingdom

-Andrews TWITTER

- Andrews Writting HERE

  

Meet the HOST!

Justin Herman

Go to controlledchaos.fun/Justin for all his links! 

Question or Show ideas? Email Justin!

Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

Thank you for tuning in.  The work youth workers do is hard work, thank you! Thank you for taking time to get a little more equipped to do Junior High or Middle School Ministry in your Youth Ministry or Student Ministry at your church.  Keep it up!

Christ in Youth, our exclusive podcast partner!!!!

FREE GAMES FROM Mallory from CIY!  GET THEM HERE!

For more information about

Christ in Youth our Podcast Partner

Email Sign-ups

Places to find the podcast

Our Youtube Page

Controlled Chaos Blog

Social Media Links

Campference

Go to controlledchaos.fun/linktree for all our links! 

 

Whose on this episode? 

Justin Herman LINKTREE

Kurt Johnston

Mark Oestreicher The Youth Cartel

Laura Atwater from South Hills Burbank

Award Winning Senior Staff Writer Jana Pruet from The Blaze ARTICLE WE TALKED ABOUT 

Meet the HOST!

Justin Herman

Go to controlledchaos.fun/Justin for all his links! 

Question or Show ideas? Email Justin!

Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

Thank you for tuning in.  The work youth workers do is hard work, thank you! Thank you for taking time to get a little more equipped to do Junior High or Middle School Ministry in your Youth Ministry or Student Ministry at your church.  Keep it up!

Christ in Youth, our exclusive podcast partner!!!!

For more information about

Christ in Youth our Podcast Partner

Email Sign-ups

Places to find the podcast

Our Youtube Page

Controlled Chaos Blog

Social Media Links

Campference

Go to controlledchaos.fun/linktree for all our links! 

 

Whose on this episode? 

Justin Herman LINKTREE

Mark Oestreicher The Youth Cartel

Andrew Root WEBSITE

Heather Mahoney

Ken Coleman WEBSITE/Pre Order Book

Kevin Jennings WEBSITE

 

Meet the HOST!

Justin Herman

Go to controlledchaos.fun/Justin for all his links! 

Question or Show ideas? Email Justin!

Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

Thank you for tuning in.  The work youth workers do is hard work, thank you! Thank you for taking time to get a little more equipped to do Junior High or Middle School Ministry in your Youth Ministry or Student Ministry at your church.  Keep it up!

Christ in Youth, our exclusive podcast partner!!!!

For more information about

Christ in Youth our Podcast Partner

Email Sign-ups

Places to find the podcast

Our Youtube Page

Controlled Chaos Blog

Social Media Links

Campference

Go to controlledchaos.fun/linktree for all our links! 

 

Whose on this episode? 

Justin Herman LINKTREE

Bishop TD Jakes NEW BOOK CRUSHING

Mallory Jenkins from CIY

Mark Oestreicher The Youth Cartel

 

Meet the HOST!

Justin Herman

Go to controlledchaos.fun/Justin for all his links! 

Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

Thank you for tuning in.  The work youth workers do is hard work, thank you! Thank you for taking time to get a little more equipped to do Junior High or Middle School Ministry in your Youth Ministry or Student Ministry at your church.  Keep it up!

Selah App from CIY.  Download on Google HERE and Apple HERE

Link to the Campference... BEST MIDDLE SCHOOL EVENT FOR PASTORS AND LEADER IN AMERICA! controlledchaos.fun/camp

Christ in Youth, our exclusive podcast partner!!!! For info about CIY CLICK HERE

Join the Controlled Chaos Facebook Group!

Did you know we have a BLOG... we do... ControlledChaos.FUN

Get on the BEST EMAIL LIST IN THE UNIVERSE- CLICK HERE!

 

Find Controlled Chaos Podcast on:| iTunes | Podbean | Google Play | Stitcher |YOUTUBE | 

Whose on this episode? 

Justin Herman

Kurt Johnston

Mark Oestreicher (#7 thing he loves about Junior High)

 

 

Lori Gottlieb WEBSITE

SELAH App from CIY.  Download on Google HERE and Apple HERE

Be part of #ChaosNation

 Twitter |Facebook Group | Instagram

 

Meet the HOST!

Justin Herman

Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | Email

Question or Show ideas? Email Justin at [email protected]

Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

Thank you for tuning in.  The work youth workers do is hard work, thank you! Thank you for taking time to get a little more equipped to do Junior High or Middle School Ministry in your Youth Ministry or Student Ministry at your church.  Keep it up!

Link to the Campference... BEST MIDDLE SCHOOL EVENT FOR PASTORS AND LEADER IN AMERICA! controlledchaos.fun/camp

Christ in Youth, our exclusive podcast partner!!!! For info about CIY CLICK HERE

Join the Controlled Chaos Facebook Group!

Did you know we have a BLOG... we do... ControlledChaos.FUN

Get on the BEST EMAIL LIST IN THE UNIVERSE- CLICK HERE!

 

Find Controlled Chaos Podcast on:| iTunes | Podbean | Google Play | Stitcher |YOUTUBE

Whose on this episode? 

Justin Herman

Brittany Herman (my beautiful wife)

Andy Stanley

Mark Oestreicher (#6 thing he loves about Junior High)

PreachersNsneakers

Instagram

Fashionista Article

Footwear News Article 

Relevant Magazine Article

Highsnobiety Article

The Christian Post Article

Bored Panda 

Be part of #ChaosNation

 Twitter |Facebook Group | Instagram

 

Meet the HOST!

Justin Herman

Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | Email

Question or Show ideas? Email Justin at [email protected]

Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

Thank you for tuning in.  The work youth workers do is hard work, thank you! Thank you for taking time to get a little more equipped to do Junior High or Middle School Ministry in your Youth Ministry or Student Ministry at your church.  Keep it up!

Join us for the CIY WEBcast with Kurt and Justin, April 11th 2pm central time, FREE!  Sign up at CIY.com/chaos

Link to the Campference... BEST MIDDLE SCHOOL EVENT FOR PASTORS AND LEADER IN AMERICA! controlledchaos.fun/camp

Christ in Youth, our exclusive podcast partner!!!! For info about CIY CLICK HERE

Join the Controlled Chaos Facebook Group!

Did you know we have a BLOG... we do... ControlledChaos.FUN

Get on the BEST EMAIL LIST IN THE UNIVERSE- CLICK HERE!

 

Find Controlled Chaos Podcast on:| iTunes | Podbean | Google Play | Stitcher |YOUTUBE 

Whose on this episode? 

Justin Herman

Kurt Johnston 

Mark Oestreicher

 

Be part of #ChaosNation

 Twitter |Facebook Group | Instagram

 

Meet the HOST!

Justin Herman

Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | Email

Question or Show ideas? Email Justin at [email protected]

Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

Thank you for tuning in.  The work youth workers do is hard work, thank you! Thank you for taking time to get a little more equipped to do Junior High or Middle School Ministry in your Youth Ministry or Student Ministry at your church.  Keep it up!