Nancy Tremaine had an encounter on board a flying saucer in July 1961 a couple of months before the Hills. I consider it to be one of the most important stories in Ufology.

Years after the event Nancy researched her own case tracking down all the witnesses to the initial event including police. She taped all the conversations. She underwent regression and got the girl who was with her on-board to also undergo regression. That too was taped.

After years of work she combined all her research into two books.

https://www.amazon.com/Symbiosis-Love-Beyond-Space-Time-ebook/dp/B076422D66/ref=sr_1_2?crid=M5G4ES7SJXQY&keywords=nancy+tremaine&qid=1639346285&sprefix=nancy+tremaine%2Caps%2C249&sr=8-2

https://www.amazon.com/Enlightened-Chapters-Life-Nancy-Tremaine-ebook/dp/B092LP5WG4/ref=pd_sim_1/142-5598889-3069639?pd_rd_w=K75dw&pf_rd_p=6caf1c3a-a843-4189-8efc-81b67e85dc96&pf_rd_r=3V3XH48XDXJB7RG4SKCX&pd_rd_r=56eda1a3-ec1c-447c-b61d-89f06813cbe9&pd_rd_wg=LaGYn&pd_rd_i=B092LP5WG4&psc=1

In this interview Nancy and I review the story and look at what it means for life. What is the message they bring? What is our role here on Earth.