Conversations about Consultation

We're exited to be speaking with Dr Rachael Green, a passionate and experienced Educational Psychologist who speaks with us about using Dynamic Assessment (DA) in EP practice. Rachael has spent over 17 years training and supervising trainee EPs and has worked in a number of local authorities over the span of her longstanding career. She is now currently the director and lead EP at Head Ways Psychology and recently developed a new approach to EP assessment called the ‘Multi-Aspect Model of Learning’ (MAML), which based on the work of Vygotsky and designed around DA principles, to be used in everyday EP practice.

It was a real honour and pleasure to speak with Rachael and we hope you enjoy listening!

Today we speak with Helen Shaw, an experienced Organisational Consultant. Touching on social defences, group dynamics and the importance of collaboration and boundaries, she raises curiosity of what might be happening for schools/organisations.

It was a pleasure to be apart of this thought provoking discussion around taking a systems psychodynamic approach to organisational consultation and we hope you enjoy listening!

Today we are speaking with Professor. Shaalan Farouk a senior lecturer at New York University in Abu Dhabi. Shaalan previously worked as an Educational Psychologist in London for over 20 years. He completed his PhD in Organisational Psychology at Birkbeck College, University of London. Shaalan’s publications on group process consultation and teacher emotions continues to have an impact on the work of Educational Psychologists to date. His current interest lie in narrative psychology approaches and focusing on the autobiographical memories of adolescents excluded from school. We hope you enjoy this episode!

We're meeting with Zahra Ahmed a year 2 trainee Educational Psychologist completing her doctorate at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust. This short episode sadly says goodbye to two of our talented and loved co-hosts and a big welcome to Zahra. We share are some of the things that we hope the podcast will continue to explore and discuss some of the learning that will be taken away. Jessica and Emily still have a few more episodes coming out, so it's not goodbye just yet! But we do wish them the very best of luck in their final year of training!

Today we are speaking with Professor. Aaron Fischer, a licensed psychologist and board certified behaviour analyst. He is also dee-endowed professor of school psychology and adjunct assistant professor of psychiatry at the University of Utah. He is also director of the Huntsman Mental Health Institute Home programme interdisciplinary paediatric feeding disorders clinic there too. He has worked with children and young people with Social Emotional and Mental Health (SEMH) difficulties and their families for over 15 years now. His research interests lie primarily at the intersection of technology, behaviour and mental health, particularly, in tele-health and tele-consultation and how these apply to school psychology.

In this episode we speak with Robin Solomon - an esteemed consultant social worker from The Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust. Robin currently works in the fostering adoption and kinship care team and before this worked for 16 years as a senior lecturer at Brunel University, where she taught Child Care Social Work at graduate and postgraduate levels.

Robin's particular interests lie in relationship-based practice in social work and she has written extensively about a psychoanalytic approach to this work.

We talk in this episode about how some of these themes can be explored and applied in psychological practice, particularly to Educational Psychology.

In this episode we speak with Patrick Langford, a now newly qualified EP from the Institute of Eductation, who completed his thesis exploring what makes consultation effective in EP practice.

We talk about all things consultation, particularly thinking about the application of consultation theory to practice and a consideration of what consultation is and how this might differ depending on your training institution or experience. Patrick discusses some of his findings from his thesis and what this might mean for the profession.

We found this a really stimulating discussion and hope you enjoy listening to hearing Patrick speak with us.

In this episode we speak with Professor Antoinette Miranda from Ohio State University. Antoinette is a professor of School Psychology in the Department of Educational Studies at Ohio State and has several research areas of interest and publications in these areas including thinking about effective interventions with at-risk children in urban settings, consultation services in urban settings and the development of racial identity and its relationship to academic achievement. She has also been teaching cultural competence in school psychology practice to school psychology students. We think this topic is so important and we hope you find the conversation as stimulating and enjoyable as we did to speak with Antoinette.

We are really delighted and exited today to be speaking with Sharone Maital and Ingrid Hylander.

Emma met both Sharone and Ingrid through the International School Psychology Association conference, or ISPA for short, where they were both co-chairs of the consultee centred consultation task-force which is part of ISPA.

Both have had a long involvement with training psychologists IN consultancy as well as BEING practitioners and prolific publishers in the field. Ingrid was an associate professor at the Karolinska Institutet in Sweden. Sharone has been the director of service and deputy chief psychologist for Israels north region.

The two met at ISPA a number of years ago and have since both been really involved in consultation research and practice. We begin by hearing a little about their journeys to becoming psychologists.

Hi, welcome to this episode of conversations about consultation.

In this episode we speak with Professor Bill Erchul from North Carolina state university.

Bill has had a 36 year career as a trainer of school psychologists in the states and has a strong research record in consultation including co-editing a volume with Susan Sheridan in relation to research in school consultation.

He has had a significant dedication to both science and practice within school psychology in the states and more widely.

It was a pleasure to speak with Bill and we hope you enjoy listening to this episode.

References mentioned:

• Caplan, G., Caplan, R. B., & Erchul, W. P. (1994). Caplanian mental health consultation: Historical background and current status. Consulting Psychology Journal: Practice and Research, 46(4), 2.
• Erchul, W. P., Raven, B. H., & Ray, A. G. (2001). School psychologists' perceptions of social power bases in teacher consultation. Journal of Educational and Psychological Consultation, 12(1), 1-23.
• Wilson, K. E., Erchul, W. P., & Raven, B. H. (2008). The likelihood of use of social power strategies by school psychologists when consulting with teachers. J. Educational and Psychological Consultation, 18(2), 101-123.
• Erchul, W. P., & Martens, B. K. (2010). Model Description and Application. In School Consultation (pp. 105-125). Springer, New York, NY. Chicago
• Erchul, W. P. (1987). A relational communication analysis of control in school consultation. Professional School Psychology, 2, 113-124.
• Erchul, W. P., & Raven, B. H. (1997). Social power in school consultation: A contemporary view of French and Raven's bases of power model. Journal of School Psychology, 35, 137-171.