In this episode of Conversations, I talk about one of the biggest tensions in the modern church: we’ve become skilled at gathering crowds, building brands, and producing experiences—but many churches no longer know how to host the presence of God.

Drawing from Exodus and the tabernacle as a blueprint for God’s presence, we walk through how church leadership has shifted from forming priests to creating consumers and spectators.

The tabernacle was never just structure—it was formation, reverence, holiness, and proximity to God.

We talk about:

• Why the modern church struggles with reverence
• The difference between crowds and priests
• Why God is near but never common
• The outer court: sacrifice and repentance
• The bronze laver: formation beyond forgiveness
• The holy place: prayer, truth, and priestly leadership
• The Holy of Holies: presence stewardship and awe
• Why performance-driven ministry cannot sustain spiritual depth
• How the church can recover wonder, holiness, and intentionality

If you’re a pastor, worship leader, church planter, or someone hungry for deeper intimacy with God, this conversation will challenge how you think about ministry, leadership, and hosting God’s presence.

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In this episode of Conversations, I sit down with Tony Kell, creator of Chosen Kids, a Christian platform for babies and toddlers designed to help children learn, grow, and fall in love with Jesus through songs, stories, worship, and adventure.

Tony shares how Chosen Kids started, why Christian families need better kids content, and what it looks like to choose obedience to God over chasing views online. We also talk about Christian parenting, family rhythms, burnout, discernment, marriage, and building a healthy home centered on Christ in a digital world full of distraction.

We discuss:

• Why Christian parents need better kids content
• Building a Christian YouTube channel for children
• Raising kids with faith-centered family rhythms
• Obedience to God over social media success
• Burnout, peace, and discernment
• Marriage, parenting, and building together as a family
• Creating safe, faith-filled content for children
• The vision behind Chosen Kids and LuLaFi

Chosen Kids was created to plant seeds of faith in children and help families build homes centered on Jesus—and this conversation gives a deeper look into the heart behind it all.

If you’re a Christian parent, creator, pastor, or someone trying to build a healthy family culture rooted in Christ, this episode will encourage you.

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If you’re a church planter or pastor trying to figure out how to survive ministry long-term, 1 Timothy 4 is one of the most important passages you can understand.

In this episode, we walk through 1 Timothy 4 and break down what Paul teaches Timothy about pastoral leadership, spiritual formation, and building a life that can actually sustain the church you’re leading.

Church planting isn’t just hard—it’s unsustainable without deep personal formation. Many leaders build something they don’t have the life to carry, which is why burnout is so common in ministry.

In this conversation, we cover:

• 1 Timothy 4 explained for church planters and pastors
• How to survive church planting without burning out
• Why formation matters more than momentum in ministry
• What the Bible teaches about pastoral leadership
• The difference between preaching and teaching
• Why calling needs confirmation and accountability
• How to build visible progress as a leader
• Why your life and doctrine determine your longevity in ministry

If you’re a pastor, church leader, or building something in ministry, this episode will help you develop a biblical foundation for sustainable leadership.

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In this episode of Conversations, I walk through Ezekiel 37 and what it reveals about church leadership today. It is possible to build structure, systems, and excellent services while losing dependence on the Holy Spirit. We talk about the danger of programs replacing the Spirit, why churches can look healthy externally but feel lifeless internally, and what it means to lead with prayer, repentance, and spiritual awareness.

If you are a pastor or church leader sensing something is missing beneath the surface, this conversation will challenge you to return to the Spirit as the true source of life and transformation.

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What do you do when you have clarity and conviction… but no traction?

In this episode, I talk about what it actually takes to carry vision in the early stages—when it feels slow, misunderstood, and lonely.

Most leaders quit here. Not because the vision is wrong, but because they don’t understand the pattern.

Every vision follows the same flow:
10% lean in early
70% follow after the price is paid
20% will never come

That’s leadership.

We break down why vision is proven in private before it shows up in public, why you can’t wait for consensus, and how “vision whiplash” quietly kills momentum. I also talk about building through people, not just systems, staying rooted in fundamentals, and how to navigate seasons where momentum feels like it’s stopped.

If you’re a pastor, leader, or builder trying to stay faithful to what God has given you, this episode will help you reframe what’s actually happening—and how to keep moving forward.

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In this episode, Josh Andrew breaks down why churches struggle to make disciples—not because of a lack of passion or preaching, but because their systems are not built to support real discipleship.

You’ll learn how to identify and fix the broken discipleship pipeline: Care → Connect → Conviction.

Josh shares practical strategies for pastors and church leaders to move people from attending to belonging, and from serving to multiplying.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• Why people come to church but don’t stay
• The difference between attendance and discipleship
• How to build a clear discipleship pathway in your church
• What “care” should look like before and after Sunday
• How to design connection that actually leads to relationships
• Why conviction is the missing piece in most churches
• The 7 systems every church needs to grow and scale
• How to create ownership, visibility, and accountability in your team

If you’re a pastor or church leader trying to build a healthy, growing church that actually makes disciples, this episode will give you a practical framework you can implement immediately.
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In this episode of Conversations, I talk about a major leadership blind spot in the church, confusing attendance with discipleship. While numbers may be growing, many leaders still sense shallow formation and fragile faith within their communities.

We explore why prioritizing attendance leads to unhealthy church cultures, how Jesus modeled true discipleship, and what it takes to build real spiritual depth through relationships, clarity, and intentional leadership. If you are a pastor or church leader, this conversation will help you rethink success and refocus on forming mature followers of Jesus.

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People are coming to your church, but they are not staying. Why?

In this episode of Conversations, we break down why people leave church and how to build a healthy church culture that drives real church growth and retention. If you are a pastor, church planter, or ministry leader, this will help you understand what actually keeps people engaged.

You will learn:

This episode focuses on church leadership, church culture, discipleship, and relational leadership, helping you move from busy ministry to a church people truly belong to.

Because people don’t stay because your systems are good. They stay because they feel known.

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If you’re a pastor or church leader trying to figure out how to build leaders in your church, this episode is for you.

Most churches don’t struggle to gather people—they struggle with leadership development and discipleship. It’s easy to create followers, but much harder to develop leaders who take ownership and build others.

In this episode, I break down how to build leaders in church leadership and why so many pastors struggle to multiply leaders.

You’ll learn:

If you’ve been asking:

This will give you a clear, practical path forward.

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In this episode, I sit down with Rohn Starling to talk about creativity, identity, and how to build a healthy life and ministry without losing yourself in the process.

Rohn has worked with Transformation Church, Elevation Rhythm, Maverick City, and leaders across the global Church, helping shape how churches approach creativity, social media, and biblical teaching.

We talk about burnout, leadership, youth ministry, and what it actually looks like to create with God instead of just for Him.

If you’re a pastor, creative, or young leader, this conversation will challenge how you think about building, leading, and sustaining what God has called you to.

What we cover:

This is about building something that lasts without compromising who you are.

Rohn's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rohnstarling/

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