Conversations with Josh Andrew

In this episode, Josh Andrew breaks down why churches struggle to make disciples—not because of a lack of passion or preaching, but because their systems are not built to support real discipleship.

You’ll learn how to identify and fix the broken discipleship pipeline: Care → Connect → Conviction.

Josh shares practical strategies for pastors and church leaders to move people from attending to belonging, and from serving to multiplying.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• Why people come to church but don’t stay
• The difference between attendance and discipleship
• How to build a clear discipleship pathway in your church
• What “care” should look like before and after Sunday
• How to design connection that actually leads to relationships
• Why conviction is the missing piece in most churches
• The 7 systems every church needs to grow and scale
• How to create ownership, visibility, and accountability in your team

If you’re a pastor or church leader trying to build a healthy, growing church that actually makes disciples, this episode will give you a practical framework you can implement immediately.
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In this episode of Conversations, I talk about a major leadership blind spot in the church, confusing attendance with discipleship. While numbers may be growing, many leaders still sense shallow formation and fragile faith within their communities.

We explore why prioritizing attendance leads to unhealthy church cultures, how Jesus modeled true discipleship, and what it takes to build real spiritual depth through relationships, clarity, and intentional leadership. If you are a pastor or church leader, this conversation will help you rethink success and refocus on forming mature followers of Jesus.

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People are coming to your church, but they are not staying. Why?

In this episode of Conversations, we break down why people leave church and how to build a healthy church culture that drives real church growth and retention. If you are a pastor, church planter, or ministry leader, this will help you understand what actually keeps people engaged.

You will learn:

This episode focuses on church leadership, church culture, discipleship, and relational leadership, helping you move from busy ministry to a church people truly belong to.

Because people don’t stay because your systems are good. They stay because they feel known.

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If you’re a pastor or church leader trying to figure out how to build leaders in your church, this episode is for you.

Most churches don’t struggle to gather people—they struggle with leadership development and discipleship. It’s easy to create followers, but much harder to develop leaders who take ownership and build others.

In this episode, I break down how to build leaders in church leadership and why so many pastors struggle to multiply leaders.

You’ll learn:

If you’ve been asking:

This will give you a clear, practical path forward.

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In this episode, I sit down with Rohn Starling to talk about creativity, identity, and how to build a healthy life and ministry without losing yourself in the process.

Rohn has worked with Transformation Church, Elevation Rhythm, Maverick City, and leaders across the global Church, helping shape how churches approach creativity, social media, and biblical teaching.

We talk about burnout, leadership, youth ministry, and what it actually looks like to create with God instead of just for Him.

If you’re a pastor, creative, or young leader, this conversation will challenge how you think about building, leading, and sustaining what God has called you to.

What we cover:

This is about building something that lasts without compromising who you are.

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In this episode of Conversations, I talk about why building a church team requires more than filling a schedule. We explore how culture, relationships, and intentional development create leaders who take ownership, and why pastors are called to equip people, not just manage systems.

In this episode of Conversations, I talk about a type of exhaustion many leaders feel but rarely name, burnout that sleep cannot fix. Even when you are faithful and doing everything right, leadership can quietly wear you down beneath the surface.

We explore why faithfulness does not mean limitlessness, how confusing calling with capacity leads to burnout, and the hidden cost of constant availability. This conversation reframes healthy leadership around boundaries, margin, and sustainability so you can lead with longevity, not just impact.

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In this episode of Conversations, I talk with worship pastor Chris Kuti about leading worship teams, avoiding burnout, and why worship leaders must see themselves as pastors first and musicians second. We discuss ministry health, shepherding teams, and building a wholehearted approach to worship leadership.

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In this episode of Conversations, I explore the difference between building crowds and making disciples. While many churches measure success by attendance and engagement, Jesus’ mission in Matthew 28 was clear: make disciples.

We talk about why Sunday services cannot carry the full weight of spiritual formation, how Jesus modeled relational discipleship, and why proximity, accountability, and shared life are essential for real growth. This conversation challenges pastors and church leaders to rethink how discipleship actually happens and how churches can prioritize formation over attendance.

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In this episode of Conversations, I sit down with Al Gordon, pastor of SAINT Church and author of Spark, to talk about the lie many people believe: “I’m not creative.”

We explore why creativity is central to being made in the image of God, how the Church has lost its edge in this area, and what it looks like to rediscover imagination, execution, and collaboration in today’s world.

If you’re a pastor, leader, or creative, this conversation will help you unlock your God-given creativity and take your next step with clarity and confidence.

If this conversation resonates with you, I’d strongly encourage you to pick up Al’s book Spark: