Conversations with the Planets

The myth of Cassandra is a powerful allegory for the importance of listening to and believing women and the consequences that can come when we don't. Taylor Swift's latest album includes a song titled "Cassandra" that provides opportunity to reflect on how this ancient myth is still sadly relevant in modern life.

In this podcast episode, astrologers Alicia Cielle Heiser and Lori Kaufman review Cassandra's mythology and discuss the ways that this ancient being can show up in the birth chart.

This episode builds on material we discussed in our ⁠Asteroids 101 episode⁠ and is part of a series of asteroid stories episodes. Please also check out our Asteroid Underworld Stories episode, as well as our episodes about Philomela, Icarus, Rhea and Chariklo.

• "Cassandra" song by Taylor Swift
• Asteroid number for Kassandra: 114
• Asteroid number for Alexandra: 54

WHERE TO FIND US: 

• Conversations with the Planets Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠@conversationswplanets⁠⁠
• Book an Asteroid Astrology Reading with Alicia Cielle
• Alicia Cielle's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@aliciacielle⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Alicia Cielle's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Lori's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@lorik_127⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  
• Lori's website ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lorikaufman27.com

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Astrologically, asteroids that are placed prominently in our birth charts serve as beacons to the mythic stories we embody in our lifetimes. In this podcast episode, astrologers Lori Kaufman and Alicia Cielle Heiser discuss the mythology of Rhea (Kronos's wife) and Chariklo (Chiron's wife).

While their husbands are more well-know, these two powerful women add depth and dimension to ancient stories that continue to play out in our modern lives. We also take a tangent to talk about the impact of dark houses in the birth chart, a topic that both Lori and Alicia are intimately familiar with through their own birth charts.

This episode builds on material we discussed in our ⁠Asteroids 101 episode⁠. Be sure to listen the ⁠Asteroids 101 episode⁠ first if you'd like a primer on what asteroids are and how to look up and interpret asteroids in an astrology chart. 

Asteroid Numbers:

• Rhea: 577
• Chariklo: 10199

Resources mentioned in the podcast:

• https://www.theoi.com
• The Song of Achilles by Madeline Miller

WHERE TO FIND US: 

• Conversations with the Planets Instagram ⁠⁠⁠@conversationswplanets⁠⁠
• Alicia Cielle's blog: ⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com/blog⁠⁠
• Alicia Cielle's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@aliciacielle⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Alicia Cielle's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Lori's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@lorik_127⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  
• Lori's website ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lorikaufman27.com

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We apologize that this episode is only available in audio format, there were some technical difficulties in uploading the video.

Astrology and music are two fields that have always been inextricably related. When you look back across ancient histories, the boundaries between these two lineages begin to dissolve. In this podcast episode, Elias Romero Hampton chats with Alicia Cielle Heiser and Lori Kaufman about the parallels between astrology and music. We discuss the difference between solar and lunar ways of being and how this translates to a variety of musical expressions.

• Essays on a Science of Mythology by C. G. Jung and Carl Kerényi
• Episode on sect
• Your Elusive Creative Genius Ted Talk

• WHERE TO FIND US: 
• Elias Romero Hampton's website: https://www.eliasromeroastrology.com/
• Elias's Music: https://eliashampton.bandcamp.com/
• Elias's Instagram @eliaswitha_b

• Conversations with the Planets Instagram ⁠⁠⁠@conversationswplanets⁠⁠
• Alicia Cielle's blog: ⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com/blog⁠⁠
• Alicia Cielle's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@aliciacielle⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Alicia Cielle's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

• Lori's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@lorik_127⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  
• Lori's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lorikaufman27.com

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Were you born during the day or night? This simple distinction can have a big influence on how your birth chart and life unfold. Do you embody a more solar or lunar way of being, and how does that show up in your life? Is Jupiter your greatest helper, or do you vibe more to the rhythms of Venus? Sect is a central technique in ancient Hellenistic astrology and a very simple approach that you can start integrating into your astrological toolkit right now.

How to determine the sect of your birth chart: first, find the ascendant - this is where the horizon was when you were born. Then, look for the Sun in your birth chart. If it is above the horizon, you have a day chart and the Sun was visible when you were born. If the Sun is below the ascendant/descendant axis then you have a night chart.

• Day sect planets: Sun, Jupiter, Saturn
• Night sect planets: Moon, Venus, Mars
• Phases of the Moon Podcast

Resources to learn more about sect:

• Ancient Astrology in Theory and Practice Volume 1 by Demetra George
• Astrology Podcast Episode on Sect

WHERE TO FIND US: 

• Conversations with the Planets Instagram ⁠⁠⁠@conversationswplanets⁠⁠
• Lori's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@lorik_127⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  
• Lori's website ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lorikaufman27.com
• Alicia Cielle's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@aliciacielle⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Alicia Cielle's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Sharing stories is a powerful way to bring the magic of the asteroids to life. In this episode, astrologers Hannah Piper Burns, Lori Kaufman and Alicia Heiser talk about the mythic story of Icarus. From acrobatics to burnout, we discuss the ways that the myth of the man who flew too close to the Sun lives on in modern times.

This episode builds on material we discussed in our ⁠⁠Asteroids 101 episode⁠⁠. Be sure to listen the ⁠⁠Asteroids 101 episode⁠⁠ first if you'd like a primer on what asteroids are and how to look up and interpret asteroids in an astrology chart. 

Icarus asteroid number: 1566

Astrology and Storytelling by Alice Sparkly Kat

WHERE TO FIND US: 

• Hannah Piper Burns website: ⁠https://www.hannahpiperburns.com/⁠
• Hannah Piper Burns Instagram ⁠@baby_baba_yaga⁠
• Conversations with the Planets Instagram ⁠⁠⁠@conversationswplanets⁠⁠
• Alicia Cielle's blog: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com/blog⁠⁠⁠
• Alicia Cielle's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@aliciacielle⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Alicia Cielle's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Lori's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@lorik_127⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  
• Lori's website ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lorikaufman27.com

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One of the most impactful ways to work with asteroids astrologically is to use them to determine which mythic stories you embody in your lifetime. Storytelling can be a deeply healing experience that connects us backwards and forwards across time through the lineage of oral tradition.

In this episode, astrologer Hannah Piper Burns talks about the mythic story of Philomela who weaves the grief of her tragedy into a tapestry. The story of Philomela can be captured through tracking her asteroid in an astrological chart. Philomela is a powerful being who can prompt us to speak the unspeakable and transform tragedy into beauty.

This episode builds on material we discussed in our ⁠Asteroids 101 episode⁠. Be sure to listen the ⁠Asteroids 101 episode⁠ first if you'd like a primer on what asteroids are and how to look up and interpret asteroids in an astrology chart. 

Philomela asteroid number: 196

WHERE TO FIND US: 

• Hannah Piper Burns website: https://www.hannahpiperburns.com/
• Hannah Piper Burns Instagram @baby_baba_yaga
• Conversations with the Planets Instagram ⁠⁠⁠@conversationswplanets⁠⁠
• Alicia Cielle's blog: ⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com/blog⁠⁠
• Alicia Cielle's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@aliciacielle⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Alicia Cielle's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Lori's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@lorik_127⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  

• Lori's website ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lorikaufman27.com

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A very special episode all about LOVE! In this podcast, we talk about the Love Card system, the relationship between Venus and Saturn, the differences between Taurus and Libra, and the psychic powers of the number 6. Astrologers Lori Kaufman and Alicia Cielle Heiser interview Lilla Dent about the Love Card system (also called the Destiny Cards). We talk about how these systems are similar and different to tarot and astrology and how to find love signatures in different systems of divination.

RESOURCES MENTIONED IN EPISODE:

• Postcolonial Astrology by Alice Sparkly Kat
• Interview with Alice Sparkly Kat about Postcolonial Astrology
• Inanna, Venus Retrograde, and Barbie
• Kelly Surtees Relationship Astrology Teachings
• "There can be no love without justice" - Bell Hooks in All About Love

WHERE TO FIND US: 

• Lilla Dent's website and Instagram: @littlesparrowmagick
• Conversations with the Planets Instagram ⁠⁠⁠@conversationswplanets⁠⁠
• Alicia Cielle's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@aliciacielle⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Alicia Cielle's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Lori's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@lorik_127⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  
• Lori's website ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lorikaufman27.com

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One of the most impactful ways to work with asteroids astrologically is to use them to determine which mythic stories you embody in your lifetime. Storytelling can be a deeply healing experience that connects us backwards and forwards across time through the lineage of oral tradition. In this podcast episode, astrologers Alicia Cielle Heiser and Lori Kaufman share the stories of Adonis, Ceres/Demeter and Persephone and how these asteroids are impactful in their personal birth charts.

This episode builds on material we discussed in our Asteroids 101 episode. Be sure to listen the Asteroids 101 episode first if you'd like a primer on what asteroids are and how to look up and interpret asteroids in an astrology chart.

Here's a link to a podcast episode with more information about the mythology of Ceres

• Asteroid number for Adonis: 2101
• Asteroid number for Ceres: 1
• Asteroid number for Demeter: 1108
• Asteroid number for Persephone: 399
• Asteroid number for Proserpina: 26

WHERE TO FIND US: 

• Conversations with the Planets Instagram ⁠⁠⁠@conversationswplanets⁠⁠
• Alicia Cielle's blog: ⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com/blog⁠
• Alicia Cielle's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@aliciacielle⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Alicia Cielle's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Lori's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@lorik_127⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  
• Lori's website ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lorikaufman27.com

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Asteroids are an incredible gateway into myth and story in an astrological chart. This podcast goes over everything you need to know to start working with asteroids astrologically. Astrologers Lori Kaufman and Alicia Cielle Heiser explain what the asteroids are, how to look asteroids up in a chart, how to determine which asteroids are significant for you and how to interpret asteroids astrologically.

Resources to learn more about asteroids:

• ⁠Asteroid Goddesses: The Mythology, Psychology, and Astrology of the Re-Emerging Feminine by Demetra George
• ⁠Astrology Podcast Episode: Asteroids in Astrology, with Demetra George ⁠
• ⁠The Strology Podcast Episode: Asteroids in Astrology with Michael J. Morris ⁠

To find asteroids in your chart, you can use ⁠www.true-node.com/eph1

You can also use ⁠⁠www.astro.com⁠ - when pulling a specific chart, click on "Extended Chart Selection," scroll down to "Additional Objects" and choose up to 10 asteroids from the list.

WHERE TO FIND US: 

• Conversations with the Planets Instagram ⁠⁠⁠@conversationswplanets⁠⁠
• Alicia Cielle's blog: https://www.aliciacielle.com/blog
• Alicia Cielle's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@aliciacielle⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Alicia Cielle's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com/⁠⁠⁠
• Lori's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠@lorik_127⁠⁠⁠⁠  
• Lori's website ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lorikaufman27.com

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Working with secondary progressed Moon phases is a great way to understand how our energy, fortune and vitality shifts over time. Knowing what phase your progressed Moon is in can tell you whether you're in a life phase of gathering resources or a time more focused on releasing, resting and letting go. In this episode, astrologers Lori Kaufman and Alicia Cielle Heiser discuss how to interpret progressed Moon phases in an astrological birth chart.

This episode builds on topics we discussed in 2 previous episodes. If you'd like to learn more about how to interpret Moon phases, please listen to our episode here. And if you'd like to learn more about how to work with secondary progressions, you can find that episode here.

Our Moon phase episode discusses how to determine your natal Moon phase in your birth chart based on the placements of your natal Sun and natal Moon. To determine your progressed Moon phase, use the same technique but look at the relationship between your progressed Sun and progressed Moon. So if your progressed Sun is in Sagittarius and your progressed Moon is in Pisces, your progressed Moon would be in its waxing crescent or waxing first quarter phase, depending on the distance between the planets. If you're confused about calculating your progressed Moon phase, please reach out on Instagram or leave us a comment and we'll help you figure it out!

Ephemeris Resources:

Link to a good physical ephemeris: ⁠https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11718100⁠

You can also google the Swiss Ephemeris for specific years, here is a link to the 2024 ephemeris: ⁠https://www.astro.com/swisseph/ae/2000/ae_2024.pdf⁠

WHERE TO FIND US: 

• Conversations with the Planets Instagram ⁠⁠⁠@conversationswplanets⁠⁠
• Lori's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@lorik_127⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  
• Lori's website ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lorikaufman27.com
• Alicia Cielle's Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@aliciacielle⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Alicia Cielle's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.aliciacielle.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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