After years immersed in the deep end of ufology, one question has proven impossible to shake: how is it that certain factions of the intelligence community—people who possess more evidence than most that consciousness survives death, that the soul is real, and that we are more than our physical bodies—so consistently engage in profound acts of moral evil?

This Field Notes episode explores the contradiction at the heart of anomalous research: the same fundamental knowledge about non-material reality that tends to moralize everyday experiencers, deepening their compassion, ethical sensitivity, and sense of consequence, appears to have the opposite effect in certain institutionalized contexts. Why? And what does that divergence reveal?

Kelly argues that the answer isn't hypocrisy, isn't power, and isn't institutional pressure alone. It's theology—not in the formal religious sense, but in the deeper sense: the set of assumptions a person holds about what is real, what matters, and what counts. Every action presupposes a theory of reality. And when someone is willing to deceive, coerce, and harm others in service of a greater purpose, that willingness is not an operational detail. It's a theological commitment.

What kind of belief system allows someone to acknowledge the reality of the soul while treating human beings as expendable? What does it tell us about the UFO coverup that the people closest to the truth appear to have constructed a secret theology that quietly authorizes evil?

This is one of the most important questions in ufology—and almost no one is asking it.

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🗒️ About Field Notes

Field Notes are short-form episodes where Kelly thinks aloud—tracing patterns, chasing questions, and working through ideas that haven't yet reached their conclusion. The path of inquiry is messy and non-linear, and Field Notes is where that process lives out loud. For access to the full archive of written Field Notes, visit inquirywithkellychase.substack.com.

Topics explored: UAP disclosure | consciousness and survival of death | anomalous experience research | intelligence community secrecy | moral philosophy | secret theology | FREE Foundation data | PSYOP doctrine | the ethics of the coverup

Inquiry with Kelly Chase is brought to you by SpectreVision Radio.Produced in partnership with Voltage.fm. 

Referenced In This Episode

Beyond UFOs: The Science of Consciousness & Contact with Non Human Intelligence by Reinerio Hernandez J.D., Rudy Schild PH.D., Jon Klimo PH.D.

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TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Welcome to Field Notes

00:48 The Question That Haunts Me

01:51 What Experiencers Report

04:09 The Intelligence Contradiction

04:48 Everything Is Theology

06:42 Belief Shapes Behavior

08:18 Why Knowledge Diverges

10:04 A Secret Theology of Ufology’s Elite

10:24 Closing and Credits

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The world feels like it's coming apart at the seams—and it's not your imagination. In the span of just a few months, the Epstein files have exposed elite networks of abuse that were mocked as conspiracy theory for years, the U.S. government has confirmed Havana Syndrome and openly acknowledged its directed energy weapons program, UFO disclosure has moved from fringe forums to executive directives, and AI has advanced to the point where visual evidence can no longer be trusted.

Each of these stories is destabilizing on its own. Together, they produce something else entirely: a collective epistemic crisis. The shared map we've been using to navigate reality is disintegrating in real time—and almost nobody seems to know what to do next.

In this inaugural episode, Kelly Chase introduces the premise of Inquiry: why the anomalous experience community—people who have spent years navigating the collapse of their own models of reality—may be the most prepared guides we have for this moment. She traces how knowledge is built, why it's more fragile than we're taught to believe, and what it actually means to ask better questions when the ground is shifting beneath your feet.

Topics Covered

epistemic collapse, UAP disclosure, the Epstein files, Havana Syndrome and directed energy weapons, AI and the crisis of evidence, anomalous experience, the philosophy of knowledge, and what it means to inquire honestly in a post-consensus world.

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Referenced In This Episode

Through The Looking Glass [Pt 1]: My Initiation in the Anomalous 

Cosmosis: Origins

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TIMESTAMPS

01:21 Epstein Files Shockwave

03:51 Directed Energy Revealed

05:52 UFO Disclosure Tease

06:53 AI and Epistemic Crisis

10:48 Why Everyone Feels Frozen

14:21 Cutting Through the Maze

16:23 Meet the Experiencers

19:51 My Worldview Breaks

23:07 What Happened in 2021

27:16 From UFOs to Inquiry

29:21 How Knowledge Is Built

35:12 Population Count Paradox

39:49 Experiencer Resilience

42:24 What This Show Will Do

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Welcome back to The UFO Rabbit Hole. 

Today we return to the old podcast stomping grounds for the long-awaited part 3 of the Through the Looking Glass Series. In this episode, we follow Tom Matte as he heads to the Institute of Noetic Sciences in search of answers about his strange psi ability that he calls Upsight. What the team of scientists, working on chief scientist Dean Radin, found once that got him the lab was nothing short of groundbreaking. Could this help Tom finally get the answers he’s looking for? And what does all of this imply about the future of human consciousness?

Today we dive back into the deepest part of the rabbit hole to find out.

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If you aren’t caught up on parts and 1 & 2 of this series, you’ll want to start there. You can find the full episodes here:

Through the Looking Glass [Pt 1]: My Initiation in the Anomalous

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Through the Looking Glass [Pt 2]: The Strange Tale of Tom Matte & Upsight

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Referenced in this episode:

Investigating the Brain Processes Underlying an Unusual Visual Experience: A Case Study

The Institute of Noetic Sciences

Tom Matte’s Website

The 8 Stages of Upsight Vision [Free Download]

Dave Rossi’s Interview on Jess Michel’s podcast, American Alchemy

TIMESTAMPS01:34 Recap of Previous Episodes

02:31 Upcoming Live Event Announcement

03:19 Introduction to Tom Matte and Upsight

05:13 Tom's Journey to Scientific Validation

07:29 The IONS Study and Its Findings

11:24 Understanding Brainwave Patterns

20:27 Implications and Future Directions

26:16 Tom's Personal Upsight Readings

31:44 Exploring Non-Local Consciousness

33:11 Challenging Current Models of Reality

39:10 The Filter Hypothesis and Anomalous Experiences

46:03 Scientific Insights from Non-Human Intelligence

49:22 The Broader Pattern of Anomalous Experiences

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In this episode of Cosmosis, Kelly and Jay sit down with someone who has become a true kindred spirit on their path: Daniel Noah, co-founder of SpectreVision, filmmaker, experiencer, and the creative force behind the new High Strangeness comic series.

This conversation moves through the deep waters where creativity, anomalous experience, and vocation meet. Daniel opens up about his lifelong relationship with horror and the supernatural, his unexpected awakening as an experiencer, and how that realization reshaped both his inner world and his creative life. He shares what it meant to come out publicly as an experiencer, the responsibility he now feels to others on the path, and why art—and vulnerability—are central to making sense of the anomalous.

Together, Kelly, Jay, and Daniel explore:

How SpectreVision grew from an indie genre studio into a multiformat home for creators working at the edges of experience

Why paranormal phenomena resist traditional narrative structure—and what that means for artists

The surprising synchronicities behind Daniel’s work on High Strangeness

Creativity as a channel for contact, transmission, and the “central source” John Keel wrote about

The emotional reality of being a public experiencer, and the mission that quietly forms around those called into this work

Daniel’s reflections on SpectreVision’s newest film, Rabbit Trap, and its unsettling, initiatory portrait of fairy lore
You’ll also hear about Kelly’s essay on synchronicity for issue #3 of High Strangeness, the story that changed the trajectory of her entire life, and how collaborative creativity has opened new doors for all three of them.

This is one of our most intimate and expansive conversations—an exploration of what happens when artists stop compartmentalizing the anomalous and instead allow it to shape their work, their worldview, and their calling.

Music for Cosmosis is by Michael Rubino. The show is brought to you by SpectreVision Radio.

Mentioned In This Episode:

SpectreVision: https://www.spectrevision.com/

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TIMESTAMPS

04:52 The Genesis of Specter Vision

09:11 Expanding Beyond Films: New Ventures

11:08 Daniel's Paranormal Experiences

17:39 The Impact of Sharing Paranormal Stories

20:17 The Role of Art in Understanding the Paranormal

30:21 Navigating Public Perception as an Experiencer

37:14 Balancing Creativity and Personal Experiences

42:40 Dinner with a Monk: A Creative Revelation

44:00 The Source of Creativity: Within or Without?

44:19 Powers of 10 and Infinite Perspectives

46:25 Channeling Creativity: Automatic Writing and Beyond

50:30 Specter Vision Network: Supporting Creative Minds

53:22 High Strangeness: The Comic Book Journey

01:00:05 Rabbit Trap: A Genre Film with Depth

01:05:33 Mantis Beings and Synchronicities

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In this special episode, recorded live at the International Remote Viewing Association Conference, Kelly and Jay sit down for an intimate fireside conversation on one of the most provocative questions in anomalous research: what connects remote viewing and the UFO phenomenon?

Bringing together two communities that rarely share a stage, they explore how both challenge the limits of consensus reality and reveal the deeper mysteries of consciousness. From the transpersonal nature of contact to the risks and revelations of psychic perception, the discussion dives into what happens when we stop looking up for answers and start looking within.

Along the way, they talk about creative integrity in anomalous storytelling, the role of imagination in perception, and why they believe that remote viewing may be one of the most grounded ways to approach the unknown. 

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TIMESTAMPS

04:04 Discussing Remote Viewing in Cosmosis

09:29 Importance of Independent Filmmaking

12:38 Remote Viewing and UFO Phenomenon

29:44 The Unique Training in Remote Viewing

30:36 Disclosure Discourse and Weasel Words

31:23 The Importance of Community in Remote Viewing

32:22 The Scientist's Influence on Paranormal Investigations

33:24 The Evolution of UFO Phenomena

34:20 The Role of Media and Culture in Shaping UFO Encounters

35:32 The Challenge of Understanding Non-Human Intelligence

36:40 Remote Viewing and Personal Experiences

41:08 The Potential of Remote Viewing for Communication

45:03 AI and Consciousness

47:42 Past Lives on Other Planets

51:21 The Mission of Cosmosis

54:21 Conclusion and Credits

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What happens when the search for truth leads you past the point of no return?

In the first episode of Cosmosis: Origins, Kelly and Jay step out of the studio and back into the field—returning to the places where their lives first collided with the unknown. Through moments of honesty and reflection, they revisit the experiences that shattered their understanding of reality and the friendship that was forged in the fire of shared initiation.

From childhood encounters with luminous beings to life-altering contact events in adulthood, Origins traces the unlikely path that brought them together—and the moral injuries, secrets, and strange grace that came in the aftermath. As they leave behind the noise of UFO discourse to follow the signal deep into the Ohio River Valley, they ask what it means to rebuild belief from the ruins of certainty.

This is where the next chapter of Cosmosis begins.Music for Cosmosis is by Michael Rubino. The show is brought to you by SpectreVision Radio.

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TIMESTAMPS

00:31 Childhood Encounters with the Unknown

06:39 The Power of Stories and Beliefs

08:52 A Life-Changing Experience

18:16 The Birth of the UFO Rabbit Hole Podcast

20:16 A New Friendship and Collaboration

26:21 A Dark Turn in 2023

29:42 Struggling with Silence and Truth

34:16 Moving Forward

35:22 Reconnecting in Appalachia

36:55 Discussing the UFO Discourse

41:35 Fieldwork and Personal Revelations

43:01 Window Areas

44:48 A Mother's Perspective

49:27 Accepting Anomalous Experiences

54:14 Embracing the Weirdness

59:01 Final Reflections and Cheers

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In this episode, Kelly and Jay recount an extraordinary night at the International Remote Viewing Association conference in Cloudcroft, New Mexico—one that began as a simple group experiment in spoon bending and ended with a display of unexplained aerial activity over the nearby White Sands Missile Range.

As dozens of participants focused their attention around a bonfire, cutlery softened and twisted in their hands—just as amber lights began moving across the desert sky in ways that defied conventional motion. The synchronicity between the two events raised unsettling questions about consciousness, matter, and the possible feedback loop between human intention and the phenomenon itself.

Kelly and Jay examine that night moment by moment, reflecting on its implications for remote viewing, psychokinesis, and the broader study of anomalous events. Along the way, they discuss:

The history of spoon bending and PK (psychokinesis) experiments, from Jack Houck’s “PK parties” to government research programs.

The atmosphere and experiments at the IRVA conference, including conversations with legendary remote viewers like Lyn Buchanan, Paul H. Smith, and Dale Graff

The simultaneous UAP activity observed near White Sands and its uncanny timing with the group’s collective experiment

How belief, skepticism, and shared attention can shape reality—and why documenting the anomalous is never just about evidence, but about participation.

This episode invites listeners to consider the possibility that consciousness is not a passive observer of the world—but an active participant in its unfolding.

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TIMESTAMPS

04:17 Post-IRVA Conference Reflections

06:00 Deep Dive into Remote Viewing

17:34 Spoon Bending Experience and Online Reactions

35:22 Reflecting on Subjective Realities

36:53 Experiencers and Intellectual Humility

38:29 The Private Nature of Extraordinary Moments

41:15 The Challenge of Filming Personal Experiences

52:45 Skepticism and UFO Phenomena

01:04:46 The Magic of Field Work

01:06:54 Upcoming Projects and Community Engagement

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In this special episode of Cosmosis, Kelly and Jay return from the International Remote Viewing Association Conference in Cloudcroft, New Mexico—where they spent a week immersed in the world of psychic espionage, anomalous perception, and frontier consciousness research. Surrounded by legends like Lyn Buchanan, Dale Graff, and Paul H. Smith, they were reminded of what drew them to this mystery in the first place: the humbling realization that reality is far stranger, and far more beautiful, than we imagine.

Recorded live at the IRVA conference, this episode features a captivating talk from Paul H. Smith, retired U.S. Army Major and one of the original remote viewers from the Stargate Program—America’s once-classified psychic espionage unit. Smith traces the deep and tangled relationship between UFOs and remote viewing, revealing how intelligence operatives and scientists like Ingo Swann, Hal Puthoff, and Pat Price used psychic perception to probe the mysteries of the phenomenon. From secret lunar targets and underground bases to the blurred boundary between consciousness and the unknown, Smith’s stories bridge Cold War history and the edges of human perception.

Whether you’re new to remote viewing or steeped in its lore, this episode offers a rare, firsthand perspective from one of the few who lived it.

Music for Cosmosis is by Michael Rubino. The show is brought to you by SpectreVision Radio.

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Resources & References

The Essential Guide to Remote Viewing: The Secret Military Remote Perception Skill Anyone Can Learn, Paul H. Smith:https://a.co/d/ge6aBnR

Reading the Enemy's Mind: Inside Star Gate, Paul H. Smith:https://a.co/d/gtWR9vv 

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TIMESTAMPS

03:35 Special Talk by Paul H. Smith

06:10 Remote Viewing and UFOs: Promises and Pitfalls

08:43 The Stargate Program: A Deep Dive

15:38 Military Remote Viewing Operations

17:24 Notable Figures in Remote Viewing and UFO Research

26:55 Pat Price's Alien Base Discoveries

28:36 Pat Price's Remote Viewing Accuracy

30:35 Discovering UFO Bases

32:53 Project 8024: Government Remote Viewing of UFOs

41:19 Challenges and Value of Remote Viewing

44:40 Remote Viewing the Moon

51:59 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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In this episode, Kelly and Jay revisit the groundbreaking work of John Keel, one of the most influential and controversial figures in UFO history. Known for Operation Trojan Horse and The Mothman Prophecies, Keel pushed beyond the limits of conventional ufology to propose ideas that remain provocative more than 50 years later.

They explore both the human story of Keel—the journalist, traveler, and relentless investigator—and the radical frameworks he left behind for making sense of high strangeness. Along the way, Kelly and Jay connect Keel’s legacy to today’s debates, government narratives, and their own upcoming fieldwork.

Highlights include:

Keel’s unique approach: using news clipping services and personal witness interviews to identify patterns across thousands of reports.

His skepticism toward the extraterrestrial hypothesis and why he suspected UFOs were closer to home than another planet.

The “paraphysical hypothesis” and Keel’s concept of the super-spectrum, where UFOs and entities may be part of a hidden ecology overlapping our own.

Insights into window areas—locations where high strangeness clusters—and how this connects to modern hotspots.

The role of storytelling, control mechanisms, and myth-making in shaping how humanity perceives the phenomenon.

Why Keel’s outsider perspective continues to challenge both researchers and experiencers today.

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Resources & References

Operation Trojan Horse, John Keel

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TIMESTAMPS

05:54 John Keel's Background and Early Career

09:38 Keel's Investigative Approach and Findings

13:40 Skepticism and the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis

20:08 Patterns in UFO Sightings and Flaps

33:38 Regional UFO Flaps and Media Coverage

35:19 Contemporary Ufology and Hotspots

37:23 Patterns in UFO Sightings

40:11 The Paraphysical Hypothesis

43:37 Control Mechanisms and Technological Inspiration

59:07 Color Spectrum and UFO Phenomena

01:09:54 Field Work Inspired by John Keel

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In this episode, Kelly Chase sits down with Dana Kippel—author of A New Force: Plasma, Consciousness, and the New Human Potential—to dive into her vision of plasma as a multidimensional, living intelligence that carries both consciousness and information. Dana opens up about her path as an experiencer, the role of downloads and intuition in her work, and why embracing the feminine side of plasma is key to unlocking human potential.

We talk about what it means to navigate reality through both science and spirit, how vulnerability can become a superpower, and why so many people are resonating with her message online. This conversation is raw, inspiring, and full of insights that reframe what it means to live in a participatory cosmos.

Music for Cosmosis is by Michael Rubino. The show is brought to you by SpectreVision Radio.

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Dana Kippel, A New Force: Plasma, Consciousness, and the New Human Potential

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TIMESTAMPS

05:27 Dana's Early Experiences with the Anomalous

08:31 The Impact of Trauma on Anomalous Experiences

12:39 Navigating Social Media and Personal Growth

19:08 Dana's Journey into Plasma Research

24:18 The Role of Women in Plasma Studies

32:47 The Hero's Journey and Authenticity

35:20 Sharing Personal Struggles and Authenticity

36:05 The Illusion of Enlightenment

38:10 Understanding Plasma: Science and Beyond

39:04 Plasma as a Multidimensional Substance

56:26 Exploring the Divine Feminine and Plasma

01:04:10 Future Projects and Final Thoughts

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