Off the top: We dug into Elijah Collins hitting the transfer portal and MSU basketball's win over Nebraska and looming matchup with Michigan. Then, a good conversation with The Athletic's Colton Pouncy on what he misses about the MSU beat, life covering the Lions and this Sunday's showdown with the Packers. Plus, we pick the NFL games and college football championship game with Harry Gagnon.

🎙 Wednesday's show starring Michael Patrick Shiels - presented by Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan 👇



[0:29:07] - Tom Watkins; Expert on China, Former State Superintendent of Schools and State Mental Health Director

[0:39:39] - Dave Dulio, Director of the Oakland University Center for Civic Engagement and Professor in the Department of Political Science

[1:12:32] - Rep. Jack Bergman, U.S. Congressman (R) Watersmeet

[1:27:04] - Fred Upton, Former U.S. Congressman (R) St. Joseph

[1:41:37] - Dennis Muchmore, Government Relations and Regulatory Advisor Leader with HONIGMAN

[2:00:48] - Ajaie Albert, Communications Director of Lotto N Crowd

[2:14:48] - Tricia Keith, Executive VP & COO of Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan & President of Emerging Markets

[2:27:34] - Jill Daly, Israel Ministry of Tourism - Midwest Region