Counterfactual Canuck

16th Century Potpourri, Ottoman Edition

This episode is what I call a "Potpourri" episode, it's a mix of three short scenarios centered around the theme of either halting or re-directing European colonization of the Americas and Canada. It's also probably one of the few times I'll get to discuss the Ottoman Empire on this podcast.

The next episode will be out in two weeks - around Sep 26.

Opening Theme: "Another Place" by Score Squad

Outro: From "Oh Canaduh" by Nomeansno, covering the Subhumans

For now, you can reach me at:

Email: [email protected]

Wikipedia should not be used as a source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_invasion_of_Otranto
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Wars_of_Religion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Vienna

Printed material:

Paul Lendvai - The Hungarians
Caroline Finkel - Osman's Dream
Mack P Holt - The French Wars of Religion, 1562-1629

No Canada, Part 3: Other European Colonization

This episode again looks at the idea of No Canada, as I explore the potential colonization of Canada by other European powers than England or France.

Great scenario on a Spanish Vancouver Island, ties into both this episode and my first one:

https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/las-madro%C3%B1as-de-quadra.488772/

Something to note since I recorded this - I missed the attempted colonization in the Americas by some German nations, including the early 16th century attempt called Klein-Venedig under Charles V and the Habsburg Empire and a couple of other smaller ventures.

Opening Theme: "Another Place" by Score Squad

Outro: From "Oh Canaduh" by Nomeansno, covering the Subhumans

For now, you can reach me at:

Email: [email protected]

Wikipedia should not be used as a source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse_colonization_of_North_America
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_colonization_of_the_Americas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_colonization_of_the_Americas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_colonies_in_the_Americas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_colonization_of_the_Americas

University of Google:

https://www.thoughtco.com/newfoundland-and-labrador-508563
https://www.heritage.nf.ca/articles/exploration/norse-north-atlantic.php
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-vikings-a-memorable-visit-to-america-98090935/

Printed Material:

John Maddox Roberts - King of the Wood
Herbert Bolton - The Colonization of North America
Stoney Compton - Russian Amerika

A More Francophone Canada, Part 1: France Ascendant

This episode is my first look at the idea of a more Francophone Canada and explores a scenario where France is triumphant in the Anglo-French colonial conflict and Canada becomes a French-majority country.

Opening Theme: "Another Place" by Score Squad

Outro: From "Oh Canaduh" by Nomeansno, covering the Subhumans

For now, you can reach me at:

Email: [email protected]

Wikipedia should not be used as a source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Quebec_history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_France
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_and_Indian_Wars

Printed material:

Philip Marchand - Ghost Empire
Fred Anderson - Crucible of War
Frank McLynn - 1759
Reed Browning - The War of the Austrian Succession
Robert & Isabelle Tombs - That Sweet Enemy

No Canada, Part 2: Other Contact and Colonization

This episode looks at contact and colonization from an Old World source other than Europeans, with a focus largely on East Asia.

The next episode will be out in two weeks rather than one week this time (around the 29th).

Opening Theme: "Another Place" by Score Squad

Outro: From "Oh Canaduh" by Nomeansno, covering the Subhumans

For now, you can reach me at:

Email: [email protected]

Wikipedia should not be used as a source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Columbian_trans-oceanic_contact_theories#Claims_of_Polynesian_contact
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_He

University of Google:

https://historycooperative.org/journal/how-not-to-rewrite-world-history-gavin-menzies-and-the-chinese-discovery-of-america/

Printed Material:

Kim Stanley Robinson - The Years of Rice and Salt
John Maddox Roberts - King of the Wood
William Sanders - Journey to Fusang
Louise Levathes - When China Ruled the Seas
Edited by Robert Cowley - What If? 2

This episode looks at the idea of Canada and the Americas being uninhabited prior to the coming of European settlers, and the problems I have with this idea.

Harry Turtledove's A Different Flesh is covered as being one of the most well-known explorations of this idea.

Opening Theme: "Another Place" by Score Squad

Outro: From "Oh Canaduh" by Nomeansno, covering the Subhumans

For now, you can reach me at:

Email: [email protected]

Wikipedia should not be used as a source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Different_Flesh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary

Printed material:

Harry Turtledove - A Different Flesh

No Canada, Part 1: Indigenous Nations & Civilizations

This episode imagines a Canada where there was no European (or other) contact and colonization. What might Canada look like with only Indigenous Nations & Civilizations?

Opening Theme: "Another Place" by Score Squad

Outro: From "Oh Canaduh" by Nomeansno, covering the Subhumans

For now, you can reach me at:

Email: [email protected]

Links for Chelsea Vowel, a great writer and one of the best sources on Indigenous issues in Canada:

Her website: https://apihtawikosisan.com/
Her twitter: @apihtawikosisan
Her book, Indigenous Writes (highly recommended): https://www.portageandmainpress.com/product/indigenous-writes/
Her podcast, Metis in Space: http://www.metisinspace.com/
And the article referenced in this episode:
https://apihtawikosisan.com/2012/01/questioning-assumptions-sawyer-did-it-will-you/

Wikipedia should not be used as a source (partial):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unilineal_evolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_people

University of Google (partial):
https://firstpeoplesofcanada.com/fp_groups/fp_subarctic1.html
Canada A Country by Consent: Native Peoples: Inuit
https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/aboriginal-people-plains
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-clovis-point-and-the-discovery-of-americas-first-culture-3825828/
https://www.voanews.com/usa/native-americans-call-rethink-bering-strait-theory
https://www.firstvoices.com/home
https://www.first-nations.info/faqs
https://www.haudenosauneeconfederacy.com/
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/98-187-x/4151278-eng.htm

List of some Indigenous-themed alternate history books:

Alan Smale - Hesperian Trilogy
Gordon Eklund - "The Rising of the Sun"
Pamela Sargent - "The Sleeping Serpent"
Kim Stanley Robinson - The Years of Rice and Salt
Robert Silverberg - The Gate of Worlds
Chelsea Quinn Yarbro - "An Exhalation of Spiders"
Chris Roberson -  Celestial Empire
K.D. Wentworth - This Fair Land
Kurt Giambastiani - The Fallen Cloud Saga
Karen Traviss - "The Chocolate Kings"
Christopher Evans - Aztec Century
Sesshu Foster - Atomik Aztex
T.L. Morganfield - The One World
Suzanne Blom - Inca
Fred Saberhagen - The Mask of the Sun
Eric Flint - Trail of Glory
Ron Montana - The Sign of the Thunderbird
Pamela Sargent - Climb the Wind
Martin Cruz Smith - The Indians Won
Jake Page - Apacheria

The first episode of Counterfactual Canuck: An introduction, followed by the Province of Vancouver Island.

Opening Theme: "Another Place" by Score Squad

Outro: From "Oh Canaduh" by Nomeansno, covering the Subhumans

Glossary for some terms I should have expounded more upon:

Confederation - creation of the Dominion of Canada in 1867;
VI - Vancouver Island;
NC - New Caledonia;
BC - British Columbia;
MP - Member of Parliament (federal, in Canada and Great Britain);
MLA - Member of Legislative Assembly (provincial);
SDP - Social Democratic Party, replacement for NDP (New Democratic Party);
UCP - United Coalition Party;
HBC - Hudson's Bay Company;
CPR - Canadian Pacific Railway;
ILP - Island Labour Party;
ICVI - Insurance Corporation of Vancouver Island;
VI Hydro - Vancouver Island Hydro (electricity company);
VI Ferries - Vancouver Island Ferries Company;
CCF - Co-Operative Commonwealth Federation.

For now, you can reach me at:

Email: [email protected]

References:

Wikipedia should not be used as a source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_of_Vancouver_Island;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_of_British_Columbia_(1858%E2%80%931866);
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_of_British_Columbia_(1866%E2%80%931871);
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_British_Columbia#Colonial_British_Columbia_(1858%E2%80%931871)

University of Google:
https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/victoria-bc
https://mynorthwest.com/509142/vancouver-islands-colonial-history/

Old-fashioned printed material:
On the Edge of Empire - Adele Perry (https://utorontopress.com/ca/on-the-edge-of-empire-4);
Early History of the Province of British Columbia - B.A. McKelvie (https://open.library.ubc.ca/collections/bcbooks/items/1.0222600)