December 03, 2025

CR Ep 209: Exotic Propulsion w Dr John Brandenberg & UFO Experiencer Misinformation w Thom Reed & Elle-L

2 hours 57 minutes

In the first part of this episode of the Curious Realm, host Christopher Jordan welcomes Dr. John Brandenberg, a plasma physicist, author, and former project manager for the NASA Clementine mission, to discuss exotic propulsion technologies, their uses, and their origins. In the second part of the episode, we welcome Thom Reed, UFO Experiencer and host of The Know, as well as co-host Elle-L, to discuss the ways that media and movies obscure the true stories of experiencers and the ways these changes can adversely affect the public understanding of the truth of these all too personal encounters. Join the Curious Realm as we delve into the topics of exotic propulsion with Dr John Branddenberg and UFO experiencer misinformation with Thom Reed and Elle-L. Curious Realm is proudly distributed by: Ground Zero Media & Aftermath Media, APRTV and the official Curious Realm ROKU App! Curious Realm has teamed up with True Hemp Science, Austin, TX-based suppliers of high-quality full spectrum emulsified CBD products and more. Visit TrueHempScience.com TODAY and use code Curious7 to save 7% off your order of $50 or more and get a free 50mg CBD edible! Intro music “A Curious Realm” provided by No Disassemble find more great music and content at: NoDisassemble.com.

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