Craig Peterson - Secure Your Business, Your Privacy, and Save Your Sanity

Welcome!

Craig’s walking you through a deep dive of the Pros and Cons of Online Collaboration Tools for Businesses and the Security implications for Businesses who have Regulatory Requirements. 

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We're going to finish up our discussion about Microsoft teams. What are some of the things you might want to use it for? What is this? How was it different from Zoom and everything else on the market? So let's get going.

[00:00:21] Hi everybody. Craig Peterson here. Thanks for being with us today. I really appreciate all your comments to me M E at Craig Peterson dot com. A lot of people just respond to my weekly show notes. You get those by signing up for my email list to find out what's going on, what you should be doing, what free trainings we have, what paid courses there are.

[00:00:46]We are coming out with a free again, free, free, free. I'm trying to help out here. It really is for you. Okay. A free, special report about all of these apps we're talking about today. So Karen's been working really hard on that with me, and we hope to have it out either this week or maybe the week after.

[00:01:09] And it's going to be. Pretty detailed about some of the pros and cons when you should be using it, what policies should you have in place for your employees when it comes to these collaboration apps? So I think it's very important topic, you know, so many of us just knee jerk our way into this with the COVID-19 thing, and we needed something now, please, anything.

[00:01:36] And we jerked into Zoom. Most of us, some of us started using Slack. All of these things are, are up in usage. In fact, WebEx had so many people applying for it because it's really the only one. If you're a business that you should be using. That they had to cut back. They were giving it away for free for like two or three months.

[00:01:58]Even though they have a huge worldwide infrastructure, they still had some problems with the onboarding, getting everybody set up and ready. So there may or may not be free WebEx stuff going on right now. They're supposed to go. Maybe it was through the end of June until the end of July. I'm not sure what it is right now, but anyway, We're talking about Microsoft teams right now.

[00:02:21] Okay. so as I mentioned at the very end with Microsoft teams, you need to integrate your Skype went and we already know Skype is not. Considered to be overly secure. It was actually a little more security before Microsoft bought it. And then Microsoft changed its entire architecture to one where it goes through Microsoft servers.

[00:02:45] And that way, if you're in China, Microsoft can sensor you. Or if the law enforcement agencies in the US want to hear what you're saying, Microsoft can provide it to them and they couldn't do it before. So yeah. A little bit of resentment there. You probably noticed in my voice, right, Danielle, back to Microsoft here.

[00:03:07] The second big thing is it has this integration that a lot of people are looking for with your business apps. So you can use word Excel, PowerPoint, one-note planners, share 0.1 drive. All integrated with Microsoft teams. And that is a huge win because all of that stuff is right there. Now the integration isn't as clean or as neat or as easy as maybe it should be.

[00:03:36] But it is there and it will get better over time. You can still use all of those tools, word, Excel, PowerPoint, et cetera, et cetera, with pretty much any of these apps. They're all designed to be integrated to varying degrees, but Microsoft ultimately will win this battle. Because they own the source code, right.

[00:03:58] They own the programs. They're going to take care of themselves first. And they've been sued about that before. So no, no news there. Next point, customized workspace, and every team is different. So Microsoft teams is customizable so that you can integrate it with third-party apps, as well as Microsoft apps.

[00:04:21] You know, that's really the trend right now. I see that across all of the industries, Cisco has done an interesting thing, and that is a couple of years ago. They decided to do a policy called API first. Now Microsoft is not doing this, but the whole idea behind API first is. That I'm like Microsoft that tries to play everything close to the chest and give itself advantages over all of its competitors.

[00:04:49] Right. And we've seen suits on that forever, like integrating internet Explorer, right into the kernels, supposedly. And so that you could not use other browsers. You always had to have a ye initially, and then they allowed other browsers, but you still had to have I E, and then the courts ruled against them yet again.

[00:05:09] And so unlike Microsoft's approach to try and lock you in, Cisco has decided that they want to make. All of the Cisco software uses the same interfaces that third-party vendors have to use. And that is phenomenal when it comes to integration. So if you want to use WebEx or WebEx teams or any component of any of the Cisco stuff, including their firewalls and the routers, et cetera, et cetera, you can.

[00:05:41] They've got API APIs for everything. Cause that's the only way they can access their own software. It says absolutely phenomenal. So Microsoft teams do have some third party integration available on it, which can be handy. You also get real-time communications, which as I mentioned can be a problem.

[00:06:02] This isn't just true with Microsoft. This is true for WebEx teams and Slack and everything else out there. But it's real-time. So a smart person's going to do something different with email excuse me. something caught in my throat, but, email, you typically try and delay, right? I try and read my email once a day and that's it.

[00:06:29] And if someone really needs to get ahold of me, but they probably know how to really get ahold of me. Right. So I'm not getting interrupted. I can work on the stuff I need to get to work on. No, I'm putting his stuff. Together for my lives for my webinars, for my radio show for everything else. And if I get interrupted, particularly if I'm doing some programming work, it can cost me hours of time.

[00:06:56] So I put off email and only go through it maybe once a day. Sometimes I'll go two or three days without really paying attention to my email. So I apologize to you. If you send me an email and you're hoping for a quick answer, I don't always get back to you very quickly. Right. I have other people in my team that that's what it's for.

[00:07:15] So when we're talking about communicating in real-time with some of these collaboration apps, It's a double edge sword. So instead of having emails, bouncing back and forth, which might take hours and hours, right? Because someone says something and half an hour later, another person reads it and responds.

[00:07:36] Now, then that first person an hour later read to them a response, you can just have it go over very quickly. It's phenomenal for productivity. When you need quick productivity, the high priority initiatives that you have can really move a lot faster because it's not an email. It's not getting a push back while you were waiting.

[00:07:57] This is really instant messaging. Think of it like texting, right? So everybody can be on the same page with these team's apps you can see who has seen your messages and people can respond to them. They can start a thread. normally how does it work? You're well, you might send an email to everybody. Giving them an update, right?

[00:08:18]they reply to you, but maybe not to everybody that happens all of the time. I know people that I, you know, I expect them to copy all because I, you know, I've got two or three people on it that are need to know, and they don't, they just reply directly to me. with these types of teams, apps, everybody's on the same page.

[00:08:39] Everybody can see everything. This conversation with email can split into a bunch of different conversations with ideas, being directed at one person when it really should be a group discussion. So keep that in mind as well. When you're considering some of these team's applications, everybody knows what's going on, what the status is, and productivity.

[00:09:04] Just keeps flowing. You're listening to Craig Peter's son. I appreciate your being with me today. And of course, you can get me online as well. Craig peterson.com. Make sure you sign up to my email list. Kirk peterson.com/subscribe. And that gets you an email every week. Oftentimes it's Saturday mornings lately.

[00:09:27] It's been more like Mondays, you know, summertime COVID-19 every excuse in the book, right. As to why it's been a little bit more delayed, but you know, expected by Monday. And it's got my summary for the week. It's got links to my podcast and also info about classes and courses and lives when they happen.

[00:09:46] And then of course, here on the air, take care of everybody. We'll be right back, stick around.

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Welcome!

Craig’s walking you through a deep dive of the Pros and Cons of Online Collaboration Tools for Businesses and the Security implications for Businesses who have Regulatory Requirements. 

For more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com

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We're going to finish up our discussion about Microsoft teams. What are some of the things you might want to use it for? What is this? How was it different from Zoom and everything else on the market? So let's get going.

[00:00:21] Hi everybody. Craig Peterson here. Thanks for being with us today. I really appreciate all your comments to me M E at Craig Peterson dot com. A lot of people just respond to my weekly show notes. You get those by signing up for my email list to find out what's going on, what you should be doing, what free trainings we have, what paid courses there are.

[00:00:46]We are coming out with a free again, free, free, free. I'm trying to help out here. It really is for you. Okay. A free, special report about all of these apps we're talking about today. So Karen's been working really hard on that with me, and we hope to have it out either this week or maybe the week after.

[00:01:09] And it's going to be. Pretty detailed about some of the pros and cons when you should be using it, what policies should you have in place for your employees when it comes to these collaboration apps? So I think it's very important topic, you know, so many of us just knee jerk our way into this with the COVID-19 thing, and we needed something now, please, anything.

[00:01:36] And we jerked into Zoom. Most of us, some of us started using Slack. All of these things are, are up in usage. In fact, WebEx had so many people applying for it because it's really the only one. If you're a business that you should be using. That they had to cut back. They were giving it away for free for like two or three months.

[00:01:58]Even though they have a huge worldwide infrastructure, they still had some problems with the onboarding, getting everybody set up and ready. So there may or may not be free WebEx stuff going on right now. They're supposed to go. Maybe it was through the end of June until the end of July. I'm not sure what it is right now, but anyway, We're talking about Microsoft teams right now.

[00:02:21] Okay. so as I mentioned at the very end with Microsoft teams, you need to integrate your Skype went and we already know Skype is not. Considered to be overly secure. It was actually a little more security before Microsoft bought it. And then Microsoft changed its entire architecture to one where it goes through Microsoft servers.

[00:02:45] And that way, if you're in China, Microsoft can sensor you. Or if the law enforcement agencies in the US want to hear what you're saying, Microsoft can provide it to them and they couldn't do it before. So yeah. A little bit of resentment there. You probably noticed in my voice, right, Danielle, back to Microsoft here.

[00:03:07] The second big thing is it has this integration that a lot of people are looking for with your business apps. So you can use word Excel, PowerPoint, one-note planners, share 0.1 drive. All integrated with Microsoft teams. And that is a huge win because all of that stuff is right there. Now the integration isn't as clean or as neat or as easy as maybe it should be.

[00:03:36] But it is there and it will get better over time. You can still use all of those tools, word, Excel, PowerPoint, et cetera, et cetera, with pretty much any of these apps. They're all designed to be integrated to varying degrees, but Microsoft ultimately will win this battle. Because they own the source code, right.

[00:03:58] They own the programs. They're going to take care of themselves first. And they've been sued about that before. So no, no news there. Next point, customized workspace, and every team is different. So Microsoft teams is customizable so that you can integrate it with third-party apps, as well as Microsoft apps.

[00:04:21] You know, that's really the trend right now. I see that across all of the industries, Cisco has done an interesting thing, and that is a couple of years ago. They decided to do a policy called API first. Now Microsoft is not doing this, but the whole idea behind API first is. That I'm like Microsoft that tries to play everything close to the chest and give itself advantages over all of its competitors.

[00:04:49] Right. And we've seen suits on that forever, like integrating internet Explorer, right into the kernels, supposedly. And so that you could not use other browsers. You always had to have a ye initially, and then they allowed other browsers, but you still had to have I E, and then the courts ruled against them yet again.

[00:05:09] And so unlike Microsoft's approach to try and lock you in, Cisco has decided that they want to make. All of the Cisco software uses the same interfaces that third-party vendors have to use. And that is phenomenal when it comes to integration. So if you want to use WebEx or WebEx teams or any component of any of the Cisco stuff, including their firewalls and the routers, et cetera, et cetera, you can.

[00:05:41] They've got API APIs for everything. Cause that's the only way they can access their own software. It says absolutely phenomenal. So Microsoft teams do have some third party integration available on it, which can be handy. You also get real-time communications, which as I mentioned can be a problem.

[00:06:02] This isn't just true with Microsoft. This is true for WebEx teams and Slack and everything else out there. But it's real-time. So a smart person's going to do something different with email excuse me. something caught in my throat, but, email, you typically try and delay, right? I try and read my email once a day and that's it.

[00:06:29] And if someone really needs to get ahold of me, but they probably know how to really get ahold of me. Right. So I'm not getting interrupted. I can work on the stuff I need to get to work on. No, I'm putting his stuff. Together for my lives for my webinars, for my radio show for everything else. And if I get interrupted, particularly if I'm doing some programming work, it can cost me hours of time.

[00:06:56] So I put off email and only go through it maybe once a day. Sometimes I'll go two or three days without really paying attention to my email. So I apologize to you. If you send me an email and you're hoping for a quick answer, I don't always get back to you very quickly. Right. I have other people in my team that that's what it's for.

[00:07:15] So when we're talking about communicating in real-time with some of these collaboration apps, It's a double edge sword. So instead of having emails, bouncing back and forth, which might take hours and hours, right? Because someone says something and half an hour later, another person reads it and responds.

[00:07:36] Now, then that first person an hour later read to them a response, you can just have it go over very quickly. It's phenomenal for productivity. When you need quick productivity, the high priority initiatives that you have can really move a lot faster because it's not an email. It's not getting a push back while you were waiting.

[00:07:57] This is really instant messaging. Think of it like texting, right? So everybody can be on the same page with these team's apps you can see who has seen your messages and people can respond to them. They can start a thread. normally how does it work? You're well, you might send an email to everybody. Giving them an update, right?

[00:08:18]they reply to you, but maybe not to everybody that happens all of the time. I know people that I, you know, I expect them to copy all because I, you know, I've got two or three people on it that are need to know, and they don't, they just reply directly to me. with these types of teams, apps, everybody's on the same page.

[00:08:39] Everybody can see everything. This conversation with email can split into a bunch of different conversations with ideas, being directed at one person when it really should be a group discussion. So keep that in mind as well. When you're considering some of these team's applications, everybody knows what's going on, what the status is, and productivity.

[00:09:04] Just keeps flowing. You're listening to Craig Peter's son. I appreciate your being with me today. And of course, you can get me online as well. Craig peterson.com. Make sure you sign up to my email list. Kirk peterson.com/subscribe. And that gets you an email every week. Oftentimes it's Saturday mornings lately.

[00:09:27] It's been more like Mondays, you know, summertime COVID-19 every excuse in the book, right. As to why it's been a little bit more delayed, but you know, expected by Monday. And it's got my summary for the week. It's got links to my podcast and also info about classes and courses and lives when they happen.

[00:09:46] And then of course, here on the air, take care of everybody. We'll be right back, stick around.

---

More stories and tech updates at:

www.craigpeterson.com

Don't miss an episode from Craig. Subscribe and give us a rating:

www.craigpeterson.com/itunes

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Welcome!

Craig's walking you through a deep dive of the Pros and Cons of Online Collaboration Tools for Businesses and the Security implications for Businesses who have Regulatory Requirements.

For more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com

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We're going to finish up our discussion about Microsoft teams. What are some of the things you might want to use it for? What is this? How was it different from Zoom and everything else on the market? So let's get going.

[00:00:21] Hi everybody. Craig Peterson here. Thanks for being with us today. I really appreciate all your comments to me M E at Craig Peterson dot com. A lot of people just respond to my weekly show notes. You get those by signing up for my email list to find out what's going on, what you should be doing, what free trainings we have, what paid courses there are.

[00:00:46]We are coming out with a free again, free, free, free. I'm trying to help out here. It really is for you. Okay. A free, special report about all of these apps we're talking about today. So Karen's been working really hard on that with me, and we hope to have it out either this week or maybe the week after.

[00:01:09] And it's going to be. Pretty detailed about some of the pros and cons when you should be using it, what policies should you have in place for your employees when it comes to these collaboration apps? So I think it's very important topic, you know, so many of us just knee jerk our way into this with the COVID-19 thing, and we needed something now, please, anything.

[00:01:36] And we jerked into Zoom. Most of us, some of us started using Slack. All of these things are, are up in usage. In fact, WebEx had so many people applying for it because it's really the only one. If you're a business that you should be using. That they had to cut back. They were giving it away for free for like two or three months.

[00:01:58]Even though they have a huge worldwide infrastructure, they still had some problems with the onboarding, getting everybody set up and ready. So there may or may not be free WebEx stuff going on right now. They're supposed to go. Maybe it was through the end of June until the end of July. I'm not sure what it is right now, but anyway, We're talking about Microsoft teams right now.

[00:02:21] Okay. so as I mentioned at the very end with Microsoft teams, you need to integrate your Skype went and we already know Skype is not. Considered to be overly secure. It was actually a little more security before Microsoft bought it. And then Microsoft changed its entire architecture to one where it goes through Microsoft servers.

[00:02:45] And that way, if you're in China, Microsoft can sensor you. Or if the law enforcement agencies in the US want to hear what you're saying, Microsoft can provide it to them and they couldn't do it before. So yeah. A little bit of resentment there. You probably noticed in my voice, right, Danielle, back to Microsoft here.

[00:03:07] The second big thing is it has this integration that a lot of people are looking for with your business apps. So you can use word Excel, PowerPoint, one-note planners, share 0.1 drive. All integrated with Microsoft teams. And that is a huge win because all of that stuff is right there. Now the integration isn't as clean or as neat or as easy as maybe it should be.

[00:03:36] But it is there and it will get better over time. You can still use all of those tools, word, Excel, PowerPoint, et cetera, et cetera, with pretty much any of these apps. They're all designed to be integrated to varying degrees, but Microsoft ultimately will win this battle. Because they own the source code, right.

[00:03:58] They own the programs. They're going to take care of themselves first. And they've been sued about that before. So no, no news there. Next point, customized workspace, and every team is different. So Microsoft teams is customizable so that you can integrate it with third-party apps, as well as Microsoft apps.

[00:04:21] You know, that's really the trend right now. I see that across all of the industries, Cisco has done an interesting thing, and that is a couple of years ago. They decided to do a policy called API first. Now Microsoft is not doing this, but the whole idea behind API first is. That I'm like Microsoft that tries to play everything close to the chest and give itself advantages over all of its competitors.

[00:04:49] Right. And we've seen suits on that forever, like integrating internet Explorer, right into the kernels, supposedly. And so that you could not use other browsers. You always had to have a ye initially, and then they allowed other browsers, but you still had to have I E, and then the courts ruled against them yet again.

[00:05:09] And so unlike Microsoft's approach to try and lock you in, Cisco has decided that they want to make. All of the Cisco software uses the same interfaces that third-party vendors have to use. And that is phenomenal when it comes to integration. So if you want to use WebEx or WebEx teams or any component of any of the Cisco stuff, including their firewalls and the routers, et cetera, et cetera, you can.

[00:05:41] They've got API APIs for everything. Cause that's the only way they can access their own software. It says absolutely phenomenal. So Microsoft teams do have some third party integration available on it, which can be handy. You also get real-time communications, which as I mentioned can be a problem.

[00:06:02] This isn't just true with Microsoft. This is true for WebEx teams and Slack and everything else out there. But it's real-time. So a smart person's going to do something different with email excuse me. something caught in my throat, but, email, you typically try and delay, right? I try and read my email once a day and that's it.

[00:06:29] And if someone really needs to get ahold of me, but they probably know how to really get ahold of me. Right. So I'm not getting interrupted. I can work on the stuff I need to get to work on. No, I'm putting his stuff. Together for my lives for my webinars, for my radio show for everything else. And if I get interrupted, particularly if I'm doing some programming work, it can cost me hours of time.

[00:06:56] So I put off email and only go through it maybe once a day. Sometimes I'll go two or three days without really paying attention to my email. So I apologize to you. If you send me an email and you're hoping for a quick answer, I don't always get back to you very quickly. Right. I have other people in my team that that's what it's for.

[00:07:15] So when we're talking about communicating in real-time with some of these collaboration apps, It's a double edge sword. So instead of having emails, bouncing back and forth, which might take hours and hours, right? Because someone says something and half an hour later, another person reads it and responds.

[00:07:36] Now, then that first person an hour later read to them a response, you can just have it go over very quickly. It's phenomenal for productivity. When you need quick productivity, the high priority initiatives that you have can really move a lot faster because it's not an email. It's not getting a push back while you were waiting.

[00:07:57] This is really instant messaging. Think of it like texting, right? So everybody can be on the same page with these team's apps you can see who has seen your messages and people can respond to them. They can start a thread. normally how does it work? You're well, you might send an email to everybody. Giving them an update, right?

[00:08:18]they reply to you, but maybe not to everybody that happens all of the time. I know people that I, you know, I expect them to copy all because I, you know, I've got two or three people on it that are need to know, and they don't, they just reply directly to me. with these types of teams, apps, everybody's on the same page.

[00:08:39] Everybody can see everything. This conversation with email can split into a bunch of different conversations with ideas, being directed at one person when it really should be a group discussion. So keep that in mind as well. When you're considering some of these team's applications, everybody knows what's going on, what the status is, and productivity.

[00:09:04] Just keeps flowing. You're listening to Craig Peter's son. I appreciate your being with me today. And of course, you can get me online as well. Craig peterson.com. Make sure you sign up to my email list. Kirk peterson.com/subscribe. And that gets you an email every week. Oftentimes it's Saturday mornings lately.

[00:09:27] It's been more like Mondays, you know, summertime COVID-19 every excuse in the book, right. As to why it's been a little bit more delayed, but you know, expected by Monday. And it's got my summary for the week. It's got links to my podcast and also info about classes and courses and lives when they happen.

[00:09:46] And then of course, here on the air, take care of everybody. We'll be right back, stick around.

---

More stories and tech updates at:

www.craigpeterson.com

Don't miss an episode from Craig. Subscribe and give us a rating:

www.craigpeterson.com/itunes

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855-385-5553

Welcome!

Craig’s walking you through a deep dive of the Pros and Cons of Online Collaboration Tools for Businesses and the Security implications for Businesses who have Regulatory Requirements. 

For more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com

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We've talked about, go to meeting Microsoft teams. We've mentioned the WebEx team. We've mentioned Zoom. Now we're going to start delving into that even more. We're going to be talking right now about Zoom, the pros, and cons. It's probably the one you've been using.

[00:00:23] How do I know it's probably the one you've been using because that's kind of been the default. Zoom has a lot of advantages and some serious disadvantages as well. So we'll talk a little bit about those, but the number one problem that we've had with Zoom over, frankly, the years has been security and lies.

[00:00:47] Did you know that Zoom has misrepresented so many times about, their ability to encrypt what they're doing, where they're routing. It is been, it's just been crazy what these guys have been up to. So it is no end to end encrypted. Let's just start with that, which means that anybody who is potentially in the middle.

[00:01:12] Which is by the way, Zoom itself is somebody who can listen in on the conversation. Now, remember what I said about zoom and that their developers are many of them. At least I think it might be most of them, but they're in China. And we had a big story that I don't think I ever really talked about on the radio here, but it had to do with China and Zoom routing people's phone calls to China, which was absolutely a huge thing.

[00:01:46] Then zoom had excuses for it. Well, you know, we have data centers all over the world. We try and run them back and forth. Oh, okay. Yeah, exactly. I absolutely get it. But there are articles online, have a look at the intercept. For instance, they are generating their encryption keys in China for Zoom that's absolutely incredible.

[00:02:11] Zoom has also just in the last week or so it's been exposed. They have been cutting off some of the Zoom user's meetings because China objected to China. I didn't want some of these people who were talking about China and some of the bad things China has been doing. And in reality, we haven't been talking about these anywhere near enough here in the United States, but Zoom.

[00:02:40] Has capitulated to the Chinese government, the socialist over there. It's absolutely amazing. What has it been going on? And they're using some old versions of encryption that have been easily hacked. They've got the worst type of AES keys out there. Then, the researchers have confirmed that they're using 128-bit keys for their communications.

[00:03:08] In other words, Even the encryption that they have, which is extremely limited, is extremely poor. It's just amazing. And they keep saying, Oh, you know, we're fixing it. Or we have fixed it. And they keep getting caught in what the media has been calling lies again. And again. And these encryption keys in China and routing the data through China and capitulating to what China wants them to do.

[00:03:36] I don't know about you, but to me, that's a very, very big concern, right. These guys just have not been upfront and honest with people. It's, it's a terrible situation. Zoom is something I absolutely would never. Use for anything that really mattered. So if you're talking about some business process that might be confidential, if you're talking about some intellectual property things which is confidential business information. If you're talking about banking information, if you're talking to your accountant, if you're talking about anything that could be used by hackers or nation-States anybody malicious. Don't use Zoom. Now I get it. I understand why people used it. I have used Zoom and I'm probably still going to continue to use Zoom for certain things.

[00:04:30] The big advantages to Zoom are. Number one it's easy to use and set up and manage. It is quite straightforward. Now. Unfortunately, unlike WebEx teams, you do have to install a client. You have to install software on your computer. Guess what? That's another area. Zoom has been caught doing some things that are very, very poor practices from a programming standpoint and nefarious. If you want to look at this through a slightly different lens, when it comes to Mac computers, they were installing a whole server on your computer that allowed remote access to pretty. Everything on your computer. Can you believe these guys?  It's really crazy, but you know, Zoom, you don't need its team to manage it.

[00:05:18] You don't need to have somebody like me come in and get everything set up, help explain it to you. Cause there are not very many functions in it. There are not very many features. It's not like a WebEx team, the room, and spaces that can all be tied into other devices and get set up on your mobile devices.

[00:05:38] And maybe like I have sitting right here, I have this amazing WebEx teams displayed. It's just absolutely amazing. We were using it yesterday for a meeting and it has a built-in whiteboard and I'm just drawing on this screen. It's it is really quite impressive, but. You don't need any of that with Zoom.

[00:05:56] And that's why so many people went on and used it. And frankly, they've more than doubled in size over the last six months or so. It's been huge. So you with Zoom, you can get up to a hundred participants standard on your Zoom account. You can have a quick one-on-one meeting, which is handy. You have your own Zoom room.

[00:06:16] In fact, the Zoom rooms have been where most of the Zoom bombing has been going on, where people drop in and just take pornography in the middle of your meeting. It's been happening for schools. It's been happening for everybody. Who's been using them by the way. If you're a school, don't use Zoom, get something good.

[00:06:33] Get again, WebEx teams, Hey, listen, we sell it. We use it. We do that because we love it. Believe me. It's just phenomenal. You can have your meetings on Zoom phone webinars, chats on Zoom, which is really kind of handy. They do also have the ability to with browsers tend, excuse me, some of the meetings. They have conference rooms and mobile devices.

[00:07:01] I really like conference rooms. That's what I used to run the FBI's InfraGard webinars for a couple of years. It works pretty darn well for that sort of stuff. Zoom also has some of these one-on-one or excuse me, all in one in appliances, which makes it even simpler to deploy, manage, and scale the room experience.

[00:07:21] But again, Those all in one appliance have been found to be anything but secure. It's just crazy. These guys,, they just don't get it. They either don't know anything about security or they just don't care about it. Right. So these all in one appliance has it been shown from Zoom to be very, very insecure and it's very cheap.

[00:07:46] It's inexpensive to do it. And it does have some integrations with Google and Microsoft. So you can use their app marketplaces over 200 integrations with things like Slack and PayPal and many others. In fact, that's what we did with the FBI InfraGard program. We had some that were paid, some of these meetings that were paid, and that went over like a lead balloon.

[00:08:11] Let me tell you, but at any rate, that was kind of one of the final straws when I left doing that for the FBI InfraGard program, because so much of this information, I'm trying to get it outright. Why should people have to pay for some of these webinars where the presenters are, volunteers, like me running the webinars for the FBI InfraGard program volunteers, and then they start charging people.

[00:08:38] And then there, they, in a couple of cases, they actually paid behind the scenes, the people who were doing the presentations, but for the most part, they weren't getting paid anyway. So I don't know, maybe that's a little inside baseball. Okay. Now, why am I still going to use Zoom? In some cases, Zoom is just what everybody knows.

[00:08:58] It's what everybody uses. It just makes life so easy. And I think I would probably continue to use it for some people. Some people have a hard time with anything new, but you know what, now that the majority of people know how to use zoom, because they've had to, because of working from home. With the coronavirus thing, the zoom is going to be a platform that's going to be around for quite a while.

[00:09:24] And yeah, it's got its drawbacks as I just talked about, but the fact that it's kind of ubiquitous, everybody knows that everybody can use it. Everybody has used it. It is not going away anytime soon. So stick around if you missed any of today's show, make sure you go to Craig peterson.com. You'll find it all there as well as on your favorite podcast app and stick around.

[00:09:49] Cause we're going to talk about my favorite collaboration system when we get back. So stick around.

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We've talked about, go to meeting Microsoft teams. We've mentioned the WebEx team. We've mentioned Zoom. Now we're going to start delving into that even more. We're going to be talking right now about Zoom, the pros, and cons. It's probably the one you've been using.

[00:00:23] How do I know it's probably the one you've been using because that's kind of been the default. Zoom has a lot of advantages and some serious disadvantages as well. So we'll talk a little bit about those, but the number one problem that we've had with Zoom over, frankly, the years has been security and lies.

[00:00:47] Did you know that Zoom has misrepresented so many times about, their ability to encrypt what they're doing, where they're routing. It is been, it's just been crazy what these guys have been up to. So it is no end to end encrypted. Let's just start with that, which means that anybody who is potentially in the middle.

[00:01:12] Which is by the way, Zoom itself is somebody who can listen in on the conversation. Now, remember what I said about zoom and that their developers are many of them. At least I think it might be most of them, but they're in China. And we had a big story that I don't think I ever really talked about on the radio here, but it had to do with China and Zoom routing people's phone calls to China, which was absolutely a huge thing.

[00:01:46] Then zoom had excuses for it. Well, you know, we have data centers all over the world. We try and run them back and forth. Oh, okay. Yeah, exactly. I absolutely get it. But there are articles online, have a look at the intercept. For instance, they are generating their encryption keys in China for Zoom that's absolutely incredible.

[00:02:11] Zoom has also just in the last week or so it's been exposed. They have been cutting off some of the Zoom user's meetings because China objected to China. I didn't want some of these people who were talking about China and some of the bad things China has been doing. And in reality, we haven't been talking about these anywhere near enough here in the United States, but Zoom.

[00:02:40] Has capitulated to the Chinese government, the socialist over there. It's absolutely amazing. What has it been going on? And they're using some old versions of encryption that have been easily hacked. They've got the worst type of AES keys out there. Then, the researchers have confirmed that they're using 128-bit keys for their communications.

[00:03:08] In other words, Even the encryption that they have, which is extremely limited, is extremely poor. It's just amazing. And they keep saying, Oh, you know, we're fixing it. Or we have fixed it. And they keep getting caught in what the media has been calling lies again. And again. And these encryption keys in China and routing the data through China and capitulating to what China wants them to do.

[00:03:36] I don't know about you, but to me, that's a very, very big concern, right. These guys just have not been upfront and honest with people. It's, it's a terrible situation. Zoom is something I absolutely would never. Use for anything that really mattered. So if you're talking about some business process that might be confidential, if you're talking about some intellectual property things which is confidential business information. If you're talking about banking information, if you're talking to your accountant, if you're talking about anything that could be used by hackers or nation-States anybody malicious. Don't use Zoom. Now I get it. I understand why people used it. I have used Zoom and I'm probably still going to continue to use Zoom for certain things.

[00:04:30] The big advantages to Zoom are. Number one it's easy to use and set up and manage. It is quite straightforward. Now. Unfortunately, unlike WebEx teams, you do have to install a client. You have to install software on your computer. Guess what? That's another area. Zoom has been caught doing some things that are very, very poor practices from a programming standpoint and nefarious. If you want to look at this through a slightly different lens, when it comes to Mac computers, they were installing a whole server on your computer that allowed remote access to pretty. Everything on your computer. Can you believe these guys?  It's really crazy, but you know, Zoom, you don't need its team to manage it.

[00:05:18] You don't need to have somebody like me come in and get everything set up, help explain it to you. Cause there are not very many functions in it. There are not very many features. It's not like a WebEx team, the room, and spaces that can all be tied into other devices and get set up on your mobile devices.

[00:05:38] And maybe like I have sitting right here, I have this amazing WebEx teams displayed. It's just absolutely amazing. We were using it yesterday for a meeting and it has a built-in whiteboard and I'm just drawing on this screen. It's it is really quite impressive, but. You don't need any of that with Zoom.

[00:05:56] And that's why so many people went on and used it. And frankly, they've more than doubled in size over the last six months or so. It's been huge. So you with Zoom, you can get up to a hundred participants standard on your Zoom account. You can have a quick one-on-one meeting, which is handy. You have your own Zoom room.

[00:06:16] In fact, the Zoom rooms have been where most of the Zoom bombing has been going on, where people drop in and just take pornography in the middle of your meeting. It's been happening for schools. It's been happening for everybody. Who's been using them by the way. If you're a school, don't use Zoom, get something good.

[00:06:33] Get again, WebEx teams, Hey, listen, we sell it. We use it. We do that because we love it. Believe me. It's just phenomenal. You can have your meetings on Zoom phone webinars, chats on Zoom, which is really kind of handy. They do also have the ability to with browsers tend, excuse me, some of the meetings. They have conference rooms and mobile devices.

[00:07:01] I really like conference rooms. That's what I used to run the FBI's InfraGard webinars for a couple of years. It works pretty darn well for that sort of stuff. Zoom also has some of these one-on-one or excuse me, all in one in appliances, which makes it even simpler to deploy, manage, and scale the room experience.

[00:07:21] But again, Those all in one appliance have been found to be anything but secure. It's just crazy. These guys,, they just don't get it. They either don't know anything about security or they just don't care about it. Right. So these all in one appliance has it been shown from Zoom to be very, very insecure and it's very cheap.

[00:07:46] It's inexpensive to do it. And it does have some integrations with Google and Microsoft. So you can use their app marketplaces over 200 integrations with things like Slack and PayPal and many others. In fact, that's what we did with the FBI InfraGard program. We had some that were paid, some of these meetings that were paid, and that went over like a lead balloon.

[00:08:11] Let me tell you, but at any rate, that was kind of one of the final straws when I left doing that for the FBI InfraGard program, because so much of this information, I'm trying to get it outright. Why should people have to pay for some of these webinars where the presenters are, volunteers, like me running the webinars for the FBI InfraGard program volunteers, and then they start charging people.

[00:08:38] And then there, they, in a couple of cases, they actually paid behind the scenes, the people who were doing the presentations, but for the most part, they weren't getting paid anyway. So I don't know, maybe that's a little inside baseball. Okay. Now, why am I still going to use Zoom? In some cases, Zoom is just what everybody knows.

[00:08:58] It's what everybody uses. It just makes life so easy. And I think I would probably continue to use it for some people. Some people have a hard time with anything new, but you know what, now that the majority of people know how to use zoom, because they've had to, because of working from home. With the coronavirus thing, the zoom is going to be a platform that's going to be around for quite a while.

[00:09:24] And yeah, it's got its drawbacks as I just talked about, but the fact that it's kind of ubiquitous, everybody knows that everybody can use it. Everybody has used it. It is not going away anytime soon. So stick around if you missed any of today's show, make sure you go to Craig peterson.com. You'll find it all there as well as on your favorite podcast app and stick around.

[00:09:49] Cause we're going to talk about my favorite collaboration system when we get back. So stick around.

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We've talked about, go to meeting Microsoft teams. We've mentioned the WebEx team. We've mentioned Zoom. Now we're going to start delving into that even more. We're going to be talking right now about Zoom, the pros, and cons. It's probably the one you've been using.

[00:00:23] How do I know it's probably the one you've been using because that's kind of been the default. Zoom has a lot of advantages and some serious disadvantages as well. So we'll talk a little bit about those, but the number one problem that we've had with Zoom over, frankly, the years has been security and lies.

[00:00:47] Did you know that Zoom has misrepresented so many times about, their ability to encrypt what they're doing, where they're routing. It is been, it's just been crazy what these guys have been up to. So it is no end to end encrypted. Let's just start with that, which means that anybody who is potentially in the middle.

[00:01:12] Which is by the way, Zoom itself is somebody who can listen in on the conversation. Now, remember what I said about zoom and that their developers are many of them. At least I think it might be most of them, but they're in China. And we had a big story that I don't think I ever really talked about on the radio here, but it had to do with China and Zoom routing people's phone calls to China, which was absolutely a huge thing.

[00:01:46] Then zoom had excuses for it. Well, you know, we have data centers all over the world. We try and run them back and forth. Oh, okay. Yeah, exactly. I absolutely get it. But there are articles online, have a look at the intercept. For instance, they are generating their encryption keys in China for Zoom that's absolutely incredible.

[00:02:11] Zoom has also just in the last week or so it's been exposed. They have been cutting off some of the Zoom user's meetings because China objected to China. I didn't want some of these people who were talking about China and some of the bad things China has been doing. And in reality, we haven't been talking about these anywhere near enough here in the United States, but Zoom.

[00:02:40] Has capitulated to the Chinese government, the socialist over there. It's absolutely amazing. What has it been going on? And they're using some old versions of encryption that have been easily hacked. They've got the worst type of AES keys out there. Then, the researchers have confirmed that they're using 128-bit keys for their communications.

[00:03:08] In other words, Even the encryption that they have, which is extremely limited, is extremely poor. It's just amazing. And they keep saying, Oh, you know, we're fixing it. Or we have fixed it. And they keep getting caught in what the media has been calling lies again. And again. And these encryption keys in China and routing the data through China and capitulating to what China wants them to do.

[00:03:36] I don't know about you, but to me, that's a very, very big concern, right. These guys just have not been upfront and honest with people. It's, it's a terrible situation. Zoom is something I absolutely would never. Use for anything that really mattered. So if you're talking about some business process that might be confidential, if you're talking about some intellectual property things which is confidential business information. If you're talking about banking information, if you're talking to your accountant, if you're talking about anything that could be used by hackers or nation-States anybody malicious. Don't use Zoom. Now I get it. I understand why people used it. I have used Zoom and I'm probably still going to continue to use Zoom for certain things.

[00:04:30] The big advantages to Zoom are. Number one it's easy to use and set up and manage. It is quite straightforward. Now. Unfortunately, unlike WebEx teams, you do have to install a client. You have to install software on your computer. Guess what? That's another area. Zoom has been caught doing some things that are very, very poor practices from a programming standpoint and nefarious. If you want to look at this through a slightly different lens, when it comes to Mac computers, they were installing a whole server on your computer that allowed remote access to pretty. Everything on your computer. Can you believe these guys? It's really crazy, but you know, Zoom, you don't need its team to manage it.

[00:05:18] You don't need to have somebody like me come in and get everything set up, help explain it to you. Cause there are not very many functions in it. There are not very many features. It's not like a WebEx team, the room, and spaces that can all be tied into other devices and get set up on your mobile devices.

[00:05:38] And maybe like I have sitting right here, I have this amazing WebEx teams displayed. It's just absolutely amazing. We were using it yesterday for a meeting and it has a built-in whiteboard and I'm just drawing on this screen. It's it is really quite impressive, but. You don't need any of that with Zoom.

[00:05:56] And that's why so many people went on and used it. And frankly, they've more than doubled in size over the last six months or so. It's been huge. So you with Zoom, you can get up to a hundred participants standard on your Zoom account. You can have a quick one-on-one meeting, which is handy. You have your own Zoom room.

[00:06:16] In fact, the Zoom rooms have been where most of the Zoom bombing has been going on, where people drop in and just take pornography in the middle of your meeting. It's been happening for schools. It's been happening for everybody. Who's been using them by the way. If you're a school, don't use Zoom, get something good.

[00:06:33] Get again, WebEx teams, Hey, listen, we sell it. We use it. We do that because we love it. Believe me. It's just phenomenal. You can have your meetings on Zoom phone webinars, chats on Zoom, which is really kind of handy. They do also have the ability to with browsers tend, excuse me, some of the meetings. They have conference rooms and mobile devices.

[00:07:01] I really like conference rooms. That's what I used to run the FBI's InfraGard webinars for a couple of years. It works pretty darn well for that sort of stuff. Zoom also has some of these one-on-one or excuse me, all in one in appliances, which makes it even simpler to deploy, manage, and scale the room experience.

[00:07:21] But again, Those all in one appliance have been found to be anything but secure. It's just crazy. These guys,, they just don't get it. They either don't know anything about security or they just don't care about it. Right. So these all in one appliance has it been shown from Zoom to be very, very insecure and it's very cheap.

[00:07:46] It's inexpensive to do it. And it does have some integrations with Google and Microsoft. So you can use their app marketplaces over 200 integrations with things like Slack and PayPal and many others. In fact, that's what we did with the FBI InfraGard program. We had some that were paid, some of these meetings that were paid, and that went over like a lead balloon.

[00:08:11] Let me tell you, but at any rate, that was kind of one of the final straws when I left doing that for the FBI InfraGard program, because so much of this information, I'm trying to get it outright. Why should people have to pay for some of these webinars where the presenters are, volunteers, like me running the webinars for the FBI InfraGard program volunteers, and then they start charging people.

[00:08:38] And then there, they, in a couple of cases, they actually paid behind the scenes, the people who were doing the presentations, but for the most part, they weren't getting paid anyway. So I don't know, maybe that's a little inside baseball. Okay. Now, why am I still going to use Zoom? In some cases, Zoom is just what everybody knows.

[00:08:58] It's what everybody uses. It just makes life so easy. And I think I would probably continue to use it for some people. Some people have a hard time with anything new, but you know what, now that the majority of people know how to use zoom, because they've had to, because of working from home. With the coronavirus thing, the zoom is going to be a platform that's going to be around for quite a while.

[00:09:24] And yeah, it's got its drawbacks as I just talked about, but the fact that it's kind of ubiquitous, everybody knows that everybody can use it. Everybody has used it. It is not going away anytime soon. So stick around if you missed any of today's show, make sure you go to Craig peterson.com. You'll find it all there as well as on your favorite podcast app and stick around.

[00:09:49] Cause we're going to talk about my favorite collaboration system when we get back. So stick around.

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Well, we've talked about GoToMeeting. We've talked about Zoom. We've talked about Microsoft teams. Now it's time to talk about my favorite. How should you be collaborating in your business? Maybe your organization, your agency there's really. Only one solution and I'll tell you why

[00:00:23] Hey, welcome back everybody. Craig, Peterson here, we have had quite a week this week and it's been quite a year, right? It's a Jumanji season. I don't know if you ever saw that movie, but I think somebody playing Jumanji was set here in New Hampshire. The latest Jumanji movies out is actually pretty good I watched it with the grandkids.

[00:00:47]I quite enjoyed it. And they're always right. There are some issues with it and yeah, you have to just ignore you, ignore those things. but anyway, that's me. Right?

[00:00:59]We've been talking about online collaboration tools. Now, if you're like most of us and you had to have some people working from home.

[00:01:09]Even if you're. A business that was considered essential. And you had people who were in the office all day, maybe your accounting people worked from home. Maybe if you had to deal with an attorney, it was remotely. It was from home. And how did you do that? We've been going into businesses lately that have been having troubles and having a look at this very question, how did they do it?

[00:01:37]I think really it boiled down to one of two products that people were using. One of them was the Microsoft team's product. I was actually quite surprised to see the number of companies that were using the Cisco WebEx teams. Now I was surprised because I didn't know that many people really knew about it.

[00:02:02] How many people knew about WebEx teams? It was a frankly, it was a surprise to me, but WebEx teams is the only product out there right now that is fully compliant with the federal government requirements. So that includes things like DFARs, fed ramp, et cetera. Microsoft is promising that they will be compliant sometime in July. But at this point, they're not compliant. So if you have HIPAA regulations that you have to follow, or you have  ITAR or any of these other federal government requirements, there's only one option, that's WebEx teams. Now, oftentimes when there is a government mandate to use something and it's terrible.

[00:02:57] Right? How many times have you had that? You have to get her driver's license in order to drive on the road, not only in your state but another state. So that. It is a terrible experience, right? Going to the DMV, trying to get that all taken care of. It's not something I look forward to, but you get even into worse spots.

[00:03:18] I remember doing some work for the US Navy. As a subcontractor and all of the hoops who had to jump through all of the things that we had to do. And that was a few years back. Now, we're doing work with government subcontractors that are doing work for the US Navy. And I thought after these years, things would be a lot tighter.

[00:03:42] And in fact, they are. In fact, the new regulations, the CMMC regulations are much tighter with way more teeth on them. People will be going to jail. We're talking about huge multi multimillion-dollar fines. Even for a small company. So it is a very bad thing here to mess up on some of these regulations. So I've been surprised when I go in and find them using things like Microsoft teams, heaven forbid they've been using Zoom, which they have been.

[00:04:22] And they are a federal government subcontractor, in fact, for the DOD department of defense. Because again, what did we talk about? Then, all those stuff routed through China. China isn't just looking for military information. China is looking for information from our companies that they can use to compete against us are designed so that they can use they're selling it to their allies.

[00:04:49] The same thing is happening over North Korea. An article came out just this week, that North Korea has 7,000 highly trained hackers. That is aiming directly at our businesses here in the US in order to cause economic harm, but also those hackers to gain access to potential military information. So think about that.

[00:05:15] Think about how bad all of that stuff is and companies just don't understand what they should be using. So yeah, you had an excuse during COVID to not use something that's secure. I do get that. Believe me, don't know that the government regulators are going to be happy with you. You may go to jail, but I understand it. So for instance, for the HIPAA requirement, those were loosened because of COVID-19 the federal government said, Hey, listen, if you're a doctor in one state, you don't have to get licensed in another state in order to do the telemedicine stuff that made just a ton of sense They also, because of that loosened some of the HIPAA regulations, which they pretty much had to do.

[00:05:58] Right. Cause they didn't loosen the HIPAA regulations. You couldn't do the Teladoc across state lines. And you sure as heck could not do Teladoc using Zoom. So they just loosened it all up, but that's not going to last. All right. So start paying more attention to some of this. And some of these Teladoc things have their own platforms.

[00:06:20] Your doctor, you get paid per whatever it is, hour or patient, whatever it might be. And you're not worried about the platform. And you're probably okay. If that platform is not secure in just speaking in general terms. Because you don't know anything about it, but some of these telemedicine companies that have these apps, et cetera, should be anyways, that gets into WebEx teams here.

[00:06:46] Some of the advantages that have made it the most popular web conferencing solution today. Number one, it's a software as a service. You just have to subscribe to the surface, you have internet access and you're ready to go. WebEx teams is also one of the oldest out there that you can use. And I think that's really kind of cool when you get right down to it.

[00:07:12] And remember I mentioned a little bit early. that, it was the GoTo meeting was one of the older ones that were out there. You might remember some of the ads I do from WebEx, that it has been around a long time, but WebEx was founded in 1995. It really is the grandpa out there. It has been doing the software, this meeting software for a long time.

[00:07:38] So it works everywhere. Unlike zoom, you do not have to have a desktop app to do pretty much everything or anything that you might want to do on WebEx, which is a very big advantage. You don't have to have a download your audience doesn't need to be a subscriber to watch and listen. Which is not true for some of these other products that we've talked about today.

[00:08:01] It also, I think it very, very successfully combined your online viewing with the ability to teleconference easily. And you can connect to the webinar via just the webinars access code. You can have passwords and whatever you might want to do. And this lots of presenters know who is actually there during the presentation.

[00:08:24] You don't have to have a time consuming, roll call or anything else. It's right there. You have. Also, of course, the chats, you have the questions and answers and you can have automatically in this space, a meeting, just take place as scheduled one or just ad hoc. So let's say you have a space in WebEx teams, that's for the team to discuss some part of some project.

[00:08:50] And so you're going back and forth, back and forth. I said, okay, look, let's just hop on right now. You, you just hit the button, the meet button, and poof in comes. You're now in a meeting and people can call in on the phone. They can connect via their smart device. Anybody that's in the room's going to get notified that there's a meeting on right now can go from your desktop.

[00:09:09] It is phenomenal. Just a simple click is all it takes. Then anybody who's in the meeting can present. You can use a built-in whiteboard, it can take remote control of your computer. Are you kidding me? Why would anyone not use this? And it's using the military-grade encryption that we were kind of talking about earlier, right?

[00:09:31] The exact opposite of what zoom has been using it also. It allows you to do what we do ourselves and what we do for our government subcontractors. And that is we host the encryption key for all of the meetings and all of the communications. So the only way anyone can see any of this stuff, There was in a meeting is to have this encryption key.

[00:10:01] It's absolutely phenomenal. Absolutely phenomenal. You also have your own site. So for instance, my company has a site at, you know, company named.webex.com. If you want to meet with me again, it's just. Company name.webex.com/meat sauce. Craig Tata, you are done. They've got tons of training articles for subscribers to use.

[00:10:24] It uses a proprietary network that has nodes all over the world. It's reliable. It's secure. It is absolutely amazing. You have to use it. You have to try it. And I advise people to use WebEx over anything out for almost anything. All right. You and you can have conferences. For instance, my room allows up to 10,000 people into it, 10,000.

[00:10:53] You know, where else can you get that? But you don't have to have that bigger room if you don't need it. It is just phenomenal share files. Oh, videos, chat back and forth. Multiple spaces are what WebEx calls them. Ad hoc meetings, conferences. It is the tool to use. And you can find out a lot more by just going to webex.com.

[00:11:20] If you would like a demo, you can just get one right there. You know, I'm not going to make a dime off of it. Okay. It's not like I own WebEx or own any stock in it. Cause I don't, but it is the way to go. And if you'd like me to help you with it, well, that's a different story. You can get help from me about almost anything we talked about here on the show.

[00:11:41] You can just email me. M E at Craig Peterson dot com and we help people out every day. It doesn't have to do with WebEx. It doesn't have to do with anything that you're buying from me. I just make myself on my team available. We have a, an offer going where we had 20 companies that we selected from people that applied, that we provided an hour of tech support for anything they wanted.

[00:12:09] So that went really well. We've done that before. We may be doing the. The whole cyber health assessment thing. Again, we'll see how that goes. We did those for free about a year ago. So we may do that as part of our security summer this year, but the only way you find out about all of this stuff is to be on my regular emails, my weekly emails.

[00:12:30] And you do that. By going to Craig peterson.com/subscribe. Craig peterson.com/subscribe. Make sure you're on that list. You'll get my weekly show notes and you'll find out about all of the extra free stuff and services that we provide.

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Well, we've talked about GoToMeeting. We've talked about Zoom. We've talked about Microsoft teams. Now it's time to talk about my favorite. How should you be collaborating in your business? Maybe your organization, your agency there's really. Only one solution and I'll tell you why

[00:00:23] Hey, welcome back everybody. Craig, Peterson here, we have had quite a week this week and it's been quite a year, right? It's a Jumanji season. I don't know if you ever saw that movie, but I think somebody playing Jumanji was set here in New Hampshire. The latest Jumanji movies out is actually pretty good I watched it with the grandkids.

[00:00:47]I quite enjoyed it. And they're always right. There are some issues with it and yeah, you have to just ignore you, ignore those things. but anyway, that's me. Right?

[00:00:59]We've been talking about online collaboration tools. Now, if you're like most of us and you had to have some people working from home.

[00:01:09]Even if you're. A business that was considered essential. And you had people who were in the office all day, maybe your accounting people worked from home. Maybe if you had to deal with an attorney, it was remotely. It was from home. And how did you do that? We've been going into businesses lately that have been having troubles and having a look at this very question, how did they do it?

[00:01:37]I think really it boiled down to one of two products that people were using. One of them was the Microsoft team's product. I was actually quite surprised to see the number of companies that were using the Cisco WebEx teams. Now I was surprised because I didn't know that many people really knew about it.

[00:02:02] How many people knew about WebEx teams? It was a frankly, it was a surprise to me, but WebEx teams is the only product out there right now that is fully compliant with the federal government requirements. So that includes things like DFARs, fed ramp, et cetera. Microsoft is promising that they will be compliant sometime in July. But at this point, they're not compliant. So if you have HIPAA regulations that you have to follow, or you have  ITAR or any of these other federal government requirements, there's only one option, that's WebEx teams. Now, oftentimes when there is a government mandate to use something and it's terrible.

[00:02:57] Right? How many times have you had that? You have to get her driver's license in order to drive on the road, not only in your state but another state. So that. It is a terrible experience, right? Going to the DMV, trying to get that all taken care of. It's not something I look forward to, but you get even into worse spots.

[00:03:18] I remember doing some work for the US Navy. As a subcontractor and all of the hoops who had to jump through all of the things that we had to do. And that was a few years back. Now, we're doing work with government subcontractors that are doing work for the US Navy. And I thought after these years, things would be a lot tighter.

[00:03:42] And in fact, they are. In fact, the new regulations, the CMMC regulations are much tighter with way more teeth on them. People will be going to jail. We're talking about huge multi multimillion-dollar fines. Even for a small company. So it is a very bad thing here to mess up on some of these regulations. So I've been surprised when I go in and find them using things like Microsoft teams, heaven forbid they've been using Zoom, which they have been.

[00:04:22] And they are a federal government subcontractor, in fact, for the DOD department of defense. Because again, what did we talk about? Then, all those stuff routed through China. China isn't just looking for military information. China is looking for information from our companies that they can use to compete against us are designed so that they can use they're selling it to their allies.

[00:04:49] The same thing is happening over North Korea. An article came out just this week, that North Korea has 7,000 highly trained hackers. That is aiming directly at our businesses here in the US in order to cause economic harm, but also those hackers to gain access to potential military information. So think about that.

[00:05:15] Think about how bad all of that stuff is and companies just don't understand what they should be using. So yeah, you had an excuse during COVID to not use something that's secure. I do get that. Believe me, don't know that the government regulators are going to be happy with you. You may go to jail, but I understand it. So for instance, for the HIPAA requirement, those were loosened because of COVID-19 the federal government said, Hey, listen, if you're a doctor in one state, you don't have to get licensed in another state in order to do the telemedicine stuff that made just a ton of sense They also, because of that loosened some of the HIPAA regulations, which they pretty much had to do.

[00:05:58] Right. Cause they didn't loosen the HIPAA regulations. You couldn't do the Teladoc across state lines. And you sure as heck could not do Teladoc using Zoom. So they just loosened it all up, but that's not going to last. All right. So start paying more attention to some of this. And some of these Teladoc things have their own platforms.

[00:06:20] Your doctor, you get paid per whatever it is, hour or patient, whatever it might be. And you're not worried about the platform. And you're probably okay. If that platform is not secure in just speaking in general terms. Because you don't know anything about it, but some of these telemedicine companies that have these apps, et cetera, should be anyways, that gets into WebEx teams here.

[00:06:46] Some of the advantages that have made it the most popular web conferencing solution today. Number one, it's a software as a service. You just have to subscribe to the surface, you have internet access and you're ready to go. WebEx teams is also one of the oldest out there that you can use. And I think that's really kind of cool when you get right down to it.

[00:07:12] And remember I mentioned a little bit early. that, it was the GoTo meeting was one of the older ones that were out there. You might remember some of the ads I do from WebEx, that it has been around a long time, but WebEx was founded in 1995. It really is the grandpa out there. It has been doing the software, this meeting software for a long time.

[00:07:38] So it works everywhere. Unlike zoom, you do not have to have a desktop app to do pretty much everything or anything that you might want to do on WebEx, which is a very big advantage. You don't have to have a download your audience doesn't need to be a subscriber to watch and listen. Which is not true for some of these other products that we've talked about today.

[00:08:01] It also, I think it very, very successfully combined your online viewing with the ability to teleconference easily. And you can connect to the webinar via just the webinars access code. You can have passwords and whatever you might want to do. And this lots of presenters know who is actually there during the presentation.

[00:08:24] You don't have to have a time consuming, roll call or anything else. It's right there. You have. Also, of course, the chats, you have the questions and answers and you can have automatically in this space, a meeting, just take place as scheduled one or just ad hoc. So let's say you have a space in WebEx teams, that's for the team to discuss some part of some project.

[00:08:50] And so you're going back and forth, back and forth. I said, okay, look, let's just hop on right now. You, you just hit the button, the meet button, and poof in comes. You're now in a meeting and people can call in on the phone. They can connect via their smart device. Anybody that's in the room's going to get notified that there's a meeting on right now can go from your desktop.

[00:09:09] It is phenomenal. Just a simple click is all it takes. Then anybody who's in the meeting can present. You can use a built-in whiteboard, it can take remote control of your computer. Are you kidding me? Why would anyone not use this? And it's using the military-grade encryption that we were kind of talking about earlier, right?

[00:09:31] The exact opposite of what zoom has been using it also. It allows you to do what we do ourselves and what we do for our government subcontractors. And that is we host the encryption key for all of the meetings and all of the communications. So the only way anyone can see any of this stuff, There was in a meeting is to have this encryption key.

[00:10:01] It's absolutely phenomenal. Absolutely phenomenal. You also have your own site. So for instance, my company has a site at, you know, company named.webex.com. If you want to meet with me again, it's just. Company name.webex.com/meat sauce. Craig Tata, you are done. They've got tons of training articles for subscribers to use.

[00:10:24] It uses a proprietary network that has nodes all over the world. It's reliable. It's secure. It is absolutely amazing. You have to use it. You have to try it. And I advise people to use WebEx over anything out for almost anything. All right. You and you can have conferences. For instance, my room allows up to 10,000 people into it, 10,000.

[00:10:53] You know, where else can you get that? But you don't have to have that bigger room if you don't need it. It is just phenomenal share files. Oh, videos, chat back and forth. Multiple spaces are what WebEx calls them. Ad hoc meetings, conferences. It is the tool to use. And you can find out a lot more by just going to webex.com.

[00:11:20] If you would like a demo, you can just get one right there. You know, I'm not going to make a dime off of it. Okay. It's not like I own WebEx or own any stock in it. Cause I don't, but it is the way to go. And if you'd like me to help you with it, well, that's a different story. You can get help from me about almost anything we talked about here on the show.

[00:11:41] You can just email me. M E at Craig Peterson dot com and we help people out every day. It doesn't have to do with WebEx. It doesn't have to do with anything that you're buying from me. I just make myself on my team available. We have a, an offer going where we had 20 companies that we selected from people that applied, that we provided an hour of tech support for anything they wanted.

[00:12:09] So that went really well. We've done that before. We may be doing the. The whole cyber health assessment thing. Again, we'll see how that goes. We did those for free about a year ago. So we may do that as part of our security summer this year, but the only way you find out about all of this stuff is to be on my regular emails, my weekly emails.

[00:12:30] And you do that. By going to Craig peterson.com/subscribe. Craig peterson.com/subscribe. Make sure you're on that list. You'll get my weekly show notes and you'll find out about all of the extra free stuff and services that we provide.

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Welcome!

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Automated Machine-Generated Transcript:

Well, we've talked about GoToMeeting. We've talked about Zoom. We've talked about Microsoft teams. Now it's time to talk about my favorite. How should you be collaborating in your business? Maybe your organization, your agency there's really. Only one solution and I'll tell you why

[00:00:23] Hey, welcome back everybody. Craig, Peterson here, we have had quite a week this week and it's been quite a year, right? It's a Jumanji season. I don't know if you ever saw that movie, but I think somebody playing Jumanji was set here in New Hampshire. The latest Jumanji movies out is actually pretty good I watched it with the grandkids.

[00:00:47]I quite enjoyed it. And they're always right. There are some issues with it and yeah, you have to just ignore you, ignore those things. but anyway, that's me. Right?

[00:00:59]We've been talking about online collaboration tools. Now, if you're like most of us and you had to have some people working from home.

[00:01:09]Even if you're. A business that was considered essential. And you had people who were in the office all day, maybe your accounting people worked from home. Maybe if you had to deal with an attorney, it was remotely. It was from home. And how did you do that? We've been going into businesses lately that have been having troubles and having a look at this very question, how did they do it?

[00:01:37]I think really it boiled down to one of two products that people were using. One of them was the Microsoft team's product. I was actually quite surprised to see the number of companies that were using the Cisco WebEx teams. Now I was surprised because I didn't know that many people really knew about it.

[00:02:02] How many people knew about WebEx teams? It was a frankly, it was a surprise to me, but WebEx teams is the only product out there right now that is fully compliant with the federal government requirements. So that includes things like DFARs, fed ramp, et cetera. Microsoft is promising that they will be compliant sometime in July. But at this point, they're not compliant. So if you have HIPAA regulations that you have to follow, or you have ITAR or any of these other federal government requirements, there's only one option, that's WebEx teams. Now, oftentimes when there is a government mandate to use something and it's terrible.

[00:02:57] Right? How many times have you had that? You have to get her driver's license in order to drive on the road, not only in your state but another state. So that. It is a terrible experience, right? Going to the DMV, trying to get that all taken care of. It's not something I look forward to, but you get even into worse spots.

[00:03:18] I remember doing some work for the US Navy. As a subcontractor and all of the hoops who had to jump through all of the things that we had to do. And that was a few years back. Now, we're doing work with government subcontractors that are doing work for the US Navy. And I thought after these years, things would be a lot tighter.

[00:03:42] And in fact, they are. In fact, the new regulations, the CMMC regulations are much tighter with way more teeth on them. People will be going to jail. We're talking about huge multi multimillion-dollar fines. Even for a small company. So it is a very bad thing here to mess up on some of these regulations. So I've been surprised when I go in and find them using things like Microsoft teams, heaven forbid they've been using Zoom, which they have been.

[00:04:22] And they are a federal government subcontractor, in fact, for the DOD department of defense. Because again, what did we talk about? Then, all those stuff routed through China. China isn't just looking for military information. China is looking for information from our companies that they can use to compete against us are designed so that they can use they're selling it to their allies.

[00:04:49] The same thing is happening over North Korea. An article came out just this week, that North Korea has 7,000 highly trained hackers. That is aiming directly at our businesses here in the US in order to cause economic harm, but also those hackers to gain access to potential military information. So think about that.

[00:05:15] Think about how bad all of that stuff is and companies just don't understand what they should be using. So yeah, you had an excuse during COVID to not use something that's secure. I do get that. Believe me, don't know that the government regulators are going to be happy with you. You may go to jail, but I understand it. So for instance, for the HIPAA requirement, those were loosened because of COVID-19 the federal government said, Hey, listen, if you're a doctor in one state, you don't have to get licensed in another state in order to do the telemedicine stuff that made just a ton of sense They also, because of that loosened some of the HIPAA regulations, which they pretty much had to do.

[00:05:58] Right. Cause they didn't loosen the HIPAA regulations. You couldn't do the Teladoc across state lines. And you sure as heck could not do Teladoc using Zoom. So they just loosened it all up, but that's not going to last. All right. So start paying more attention to some of this. And some of these Teladoc things have their own platforms.

[00:06:20] Your doctor, you get paid per whatever it is, hour or patient, whatever it might be. And you're not worried about the platform. And you're probably okay. If that platform is not secure in just speaking in general terms. Because you don't know anything about it, but some of these telemedicine companies that have these apps, et cetera, should be anyways, that gets into WebEx teams here.

[00:06:46] Some of the advantages that have made it the most popular web conferencing solution today. Number one, it's a software as a service. You just have to subscribe to the surface, you have internet access and you're ready to go. WebEx teams is also one of the oldest out there that you can use. And I think that's really kind of cool when you get right down to it.

[00:07:12] And remember I mentioned a little bit early. that, it was the GoTo meeting was one of the older ones that were out there. You might remember some of the ads I do from WebEx, that it has been around a long time, but WebEx was founded in 1995. It really is the grandpa out there. It has been doing the software, this meeting software for a long time.

[00:07:38] So it works everywhere. Unlike zoom, you do not have to have a desktop app to do pretty much everything or anything that you might want to do on WebEx, which is a very big advantage. You don't have to have a download your audience doesn't need to be a subscriber to watch and listen. Which is not true for some of these other products that we've talked about today.

[00:08:01] It also, I think it very, very successfully combined your online viewing with the ability to teleconference easily. And you can connect to the webinar via just the webinars access code. You can have passwords and whatever you might want to do. And this lots of presenters know who is actually there during the presentation.

[00:08:24] You don't have to have a time consuming, roll call or anything else. It's right there. You have. Also, of course, the chats, you have the questions and answers and you can have automatically in this space, a meeting, just take place as scheduled one or just ad hoc. So let's say you have a space in WebEx teams, that's for the team to discuss some part of some project.

[00:08:50] And so you're going back and forth, back and forth. I said, okay, look, let's just hop on right now. You, you just hit the button, the meet button, and poof in comes. You're now in a meeting and people can call in on the phone. They can connect via their smart device. Anybody that's in the room's going to get notified that there's a meeting on right now can go from your desktop.

[00:09:09] It is phenomenal. Just a simple click is all it takes. Then anybody who's in the meeting can present. You can use a built-in whiteboard, it can take remote control of your computer. Are you kidding me? Why would anyone not use this? And it's using the military-grade encryption that we were kind of talking about earlier, right?

[00:09:31] The exact opposite of what zoom has been using it also. It allows you to do what we do ourselves and what we do for our government subcontractors. And that is we host the encryption key for all of the meetings and all of the communications. So the only way anyone can see any of this stuff, There was in a meeting is to have this encryption key.

[00:10:01] It's absolutely phenomenal. Absolutely phenomenal. You also have your own site. So for instance, my company has a site at, you know, company named.webex.com. If you want to meet with me again, it's just. Company name.webex.com/meat sauce. Craig Tata, you are done. They've got tons of training articles for subscribers to use.

[00:10:24] It uses a proprietary network that has nodes all over the world. It's reliable. It's secure. It is absolutely amazing. You have to use it. You have to try it. And I advise people to use WebEx over anything out for almost anything. All right. You and you can have conferences. For instance, my room allows up to 10,000 people into it, 10,000.

[00:10:53] You know, where else can you get that? But you don't have to have that bigger room if you don't need it. It is just phenomenal share files. Oh, videos, chat back and forth. Multiple spaces are what WebEx calls them. Ad hoc meetings, conferences. It is the tool to use. And you can find out a lot more by just going to webex.com.

[00:11:20] If you would like a demo, you can just get one right there. You know, I'm not going to make a dime off of it. Okay. It's not like I own WebEx or own any stock in it. Cause I don't, but it is the way to go. And if you'd like me to help you with it, well, that's a different story. You can get help from me about almost anything we talked about here on the show.

[00:11:41] You can just email me. M E at Craig Peterson dot com and we help people out every day. It doesn't have to do with WebEx. It doesn't have to do with anything that you're buying from me. I just make myself on my team available. We have a, an offer going where we had 20 companies that we selected from people that applied, that we provided an hour of tech support for anything they wanted.

[00:12:09] So that went really well. We've done that before. We may be doing the. The whole cyber health assessment thing. Again, we'll see how that goes. We did those for free about a year ago. So we may do that as part of our security summer this year, but the only way you find out about all of this stuff is to be on my regular emails, my weekly emails.

[00:12:30] And you do that. By going to Craig peterson.com/subscribe. Craig peterson.com/subscribe. Make sure you're on that list. You'll get my weekly show notes and you'll find out about all of the extra free stuff and services that we provide.

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Good morning everybody!

I was on with Matt this morning and we had a good discussion about How Contract Tracing Apps Work and Fail, Massive Spying on Google Users, Major Justice Overhaul For Facebook, and Twitter. Let's get into my conversation with Matt on WGAN.

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Craig Peterson: This sort of thing that South Koreas been mandating for everyone.

[00:00:03] Matt Gagnon: Yeah.

[00:00:03] Craig Peterson: And China's been mandating if you go to China.

[00:00:07]Matt Gagnon: Look at my shocked face. I know you can see it through the radio right now.

[00:00:11] Craig Peterson: Yeah, absolutely. Now you brought up the security, right? So that was me with Mr. Matt this morning, we talked a little bit about the justice department and their big overhaul it's underway right now. Massive spying on users of Google Chrome and contact tracing apps. Did you know how they actually work and what they can do for you? And frankly, to you. Let's get going. Here's Matt.

[00:00:42] Matt Gagnon: It's a technological revolution, your Google home, your Alexa, just tell it to listen to the news, radio WGAN and the like Craig Peterson.

[00:00:51] You can listen to the program. Cause I know he does every day. Craig, welcome to the program this morning.

[00:00:56] Craig Peterson: I Do. I use my little Amazon Alexa? I have a little echo dot and it's fantastic. Even on in my car. I can just ask my Alexa app to go ahead and tune it in WGAN and off it goes.

[00:01:09] Matt Gagnon: Indeed. So it's a great technological advancement, which is a nice thing to do. Now that we're talking to you, the tech advisor for the WGAN morning news. So I wanted to start off Craig, by noting something that I have noticed recently, which is that there's a lot of people freaking out about what's on their phones for contact tracing apps and stuff. That's kind of being done in the background of their phones to try to keep track of the coronavirus and whatnot, but it goes into, I think, nicely into the story that you want to talk about, about the contact tracing apps and how they are failing miserably at basic security.

[00:01:47] Craig Peterson: Yeah, they sure are. And then there's a lot of confusion around these things too. You can't just download a contact tracing app and somehow thinks that it's going to trace all your contacts. First of all, that's just not going to work. Then there are two basic types of these apps. There's one that's GPS related.

[00:02:07] So it can be handy and it will let you know, if you come up down with symptoms later on, we'll let you know, we'll remind you. Oh, you went here, you grab a sandwich there, you did this, you did that. And so if the public health people want to know, where have you been, who might you have had contact with at least tells you where you are.

[00:02:29] The second type of app is typically based on a platform that both Apple and Google put together. And that platform is designed to use the near field Bluetooth stuff. The 10-year phones. So with Bluetooth at the latest versions of it, it can detect how far you are away or the devices away from another Bluetooth device.

[00:02:55] And those are the types of that. We'll let you know, first of all, Hey, you're within six feet of a coworker. So a lot of businesses are using those just to remind coworkers to stay apart. And secondarily it could be used by public health services to let them know who you came close to.

[00:03:13] Matt Gagnon: I am sorry but that is so sketchy.

[00:03:17] Craig Peterson: It is. Yeah, it really is.

[00:03:18] That's the sort of thing that South Korea has been mandating for everyone. And China's been mandating. If you go to China.

[00:03:26] Matt Gagnon: Look at my shocked face. I know you can see it through the radio right now.

[00:03:32] Craig Peterson: Yeah, absolutely. Now you brought up the security, right? Who trusts the government anymore?

[00:03:39] I guess there are some people right who trust the government, but most people know that. Okay. There's potentially legitimate purpose here may be well-intentioned, but giant security mistakes. And in fact, right now there are more than 2000 of these trackers out there. And the trackers that have been checked have been found to not keep your data private, not to keep your information.

[00:04:06] Matt Gagnon: You're kidding, You're kidding.

[00:04:07] Craig Peterson: Weird isn't it. So, yeah, it'd be, be careful with these things. They are not a panacea. The only way they might be effective is if some people saying 50%, some people say 70% of the population has them on their devices and that's never going to happen anyway.

[00:04:27] Matt Gagnon: Craig Peterson, our tech guru joins us on Wednesdays at this time to go over what's happening in the world of technology.

[00:04:32] You can also hear him on Saturdays, on this very station with a longer-form version of this chat, where he gets into more depth and detail about all of these stories and more, coming up next. Craig, I want to talk about the spying. Speaking of people you don't trust, Google. And go with the spine that's being done on Google Chrome.

[00:04:50] What's happening here.

[00:04:51] Oh, this is an interesting problem. Google has, yeah, there's been some massive spying that's been going on and it's entirely around Google Chrome that we're going to talk about right now.

[00:05:03] Craig Peterson: Of course, there are all kinds of spying going after our businesses they are stealing our data. We know that we've talked about that before, but there's been this spyware effort for extensions on Google's Chrome web browsers.

[00:05:19] Then this is kind of an interesting problem here because there are malicious ad-on's and Google has from the official play store removed more than 70 of them. So number one only uses the official play store. Right. And I hate to have to say that, but a lot of people don't. A lot of gamers don't because a lot of the games are not available from the official store.

[00:05:46] So in this case, Google removed those extensions that violated their policies, which is really kind of nice, but here's the biggest problem. There have been apparently millions of people's records downloaded by some of the spyware, including your contacts, banking information, et cetera, et cetera. So this is a problem and it's going to continue to be a problem.

[00:06:13] It's not unique to Google. It is a general problem out there. So if you're going to put an extension on your browser, be very careful. And my best advice is, do not add search bars to your browser.

[00:06:28] Matt Gagnon: Oh God, you ever do that?

[00:06:30] Geez. Those things are terrible.

[00:06:31] Craig Peterson: Oh, they're the worst.

[00:06:32] Matt Gagnon: Yeah, don't do it. Don't do it is pretty much good advice for most things I'd say. Craig Peterson joins us on, right now to talk about what's going on in the world of technology before I let you go, Craig, I have one more question I want to get to you. And this one could spiral into a seven-hour discussion, but section two 30, has been, of the communications. Decency act of 1996, by the way, is where that comes from, has been sort of at the center of this debate about free speech online, and what social media platforms are doing.

[00:07:01] And, and the justice department has now proposed a set of new things to do to update that what are they proposing?

[00:07:09] Craig Peterson: Well, here is the bottom line. If you're using that telephone and you threaten someone, or you say something that is illegal, the telephone company, isn't prosecuted, the telephone company doesn't go to jail.

[00:07:24] So what section two 30 was all about is saying, well, you know, some of these businesses out there are kind of like common carriers kind of like the telephone company and we should not hold Facebook or Google to the same standards as we might hold a third party, a little website that's publishing hate speech, for instance.

[00:07:45] Well, that was put in place so that Google, Facebook, et cetera, did not have to do any form of censorship and they would not be held accountable. Guess what they're doing right now, Matt,

[00:07:58] I have a guess, Craig Peterson.

[00:08:01] It's censorship, right? They have been labeling speech. They have been demonetizing people.

[00:08:07] They have been removing accounts. Even they have been acting less like the telephone company and more like just a regular publisher. Just like a newspaper would get sued as long as they're not the New York times by the customs department. and, would be prosecuted and bad things could happen. So the department of justice is trying to come up with some ground in the middle here saying Google, Facebook, Twitter, et cetera.

[00:08:39] If you are going to quote fact check unquote, which of course is in fact-checking people. And if you are going to demonetize them, if you're going to remove them, if you're going to eliminate their right to speech, we're not going to protect you anymore.

[00:08:56] Matt Gagnon: Yeah, that's an interesting way of going about it.

[00:08:57] And I know that we're basically at a time, you're correct, but I've always been critical of this move to try to shift some of the things that are in section two 30 because I think that while a lot of the people that have assigned that as the reason why Facebook and Google are doing terrible things to you, it gives a lot of power.

[00:09:14] To the federal government just sort of started policing some of these private entities. I mean, they're, they're publicly traded corporations. Right.

[00:09:22] Craig Peterson: Yeah.

[00:09:22] Matt Gagnon: And

[00:09:22] Craig Peterson: it makes

[00:09:23] Matt Gagnon: me deeply, deeply uncomfortable to give say like Barack Obama, that power. Right. It's, you know, it's one thing in the hands of your friends and another thing in the hands of your, political opposites, but that's

[00:09:34] You may trust it today but what about tomorrow.

[00:09:38] That is an interesting way of going about it though. The kind of like the middle ground here saying that you still actually have. The afforded protections. But if you get into the habit of curating and, and, and trying to police speech on your platform, then you are taking a more active hand in the management of what's on the platform.

[00:09:55] Ergo. You're not really a platform anymore. Right? I mean, like, that's, that's the core of it. I, you know, you might be able to get me on that. You know, its an interesting idea.

[00:10:04] Craig Peterson: It says one I'm kind of agreeing with, but I hate the potential fallout, right? The unforeseen circumstances.

[00:10:11] Matt Gagnon: Yeah. I mean, again, this could go into like a 10-hour conversation.

[00:10:14] Tech policy is like that, you know, you're talking, you had done, you pull one string and then 25 other strings go with it. So we could, we could talk about this for ages, but Craig Peterson, we appreciate you talking for as long as you have. We'll talk to you again next week. And of course, listen to him on Saturday.

[00:10:28] He'll definitely be here at WGAN and talk more about this. Thanks a lot, Craig.

[00:10:32] Craig Peterson: Exactly 1:00 PM.

[00:10:34] Matt Gagnon: 1:00 PM on Saturday. All right. So coming up next, Joe Biden,

[00:10:37] Craig Peterson: I'm thinking about dropping the weekend radio shows that I've been doing for more than 20 years, a long time. But I'm not sure that, the reason is I'm not sure that I'm really getting traction out of them that I need to get. Cause I want to help a lot of people. I also need to pay my bills. Right. And I just, I'm not getting the feedback from the radio shows. So. I think I might drop them, but I'd love to hear from you guys what you think. So I would still do these morning hits on, on radio, maybe some TV morning hits. but the radio shows on the weekend just takes hours and hours to do and I just don't know if it is worth it. Anyways. Email me M E at Craig Peterson dot com. Let me know what you think. It'll also let me do a little bit more when it comes to these podcasts and maybe posting some stuff, doing Facebook and YouTube Lives, et cetera. So let me know [email protected]. Everybody, have a great day and at least this weekend we'll be back on Saturday.

[00:11:45] Take care. Bye-bye.

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