Today’s episode of the Punk CX podcast is with Ty Givens, who is the Founder and CEO of CX Collective, where she partners with ambitious brands to build customer experience programs that don’t just keep up—they lead. Ty joins me today to talk about how emotional labour and systems thinking are missing from leadership, why there is a better way to reduce employee churn and inconsistency rather than chasing tools, burnout for team leads, and how to get fast-growing support teams that are often structurally shaky onto a more steady footing without losing momentum.

This interview follows on from my recent interview – Think you know Gen Z? Think again – Interview with Matt Powell of Great State – and is number 555 in the series of interviews with authors and business leaders who are doing great things, providing valuable insights, helping businesses innovate and delivering great service and experience to both their customers and their employees.