Creative Magic

This Between the Seasons book episode explores Nightbitch a novel by Rachel Yoder, a work of magical realism about a mother longing to reclaim her identity of artist.

Named a best book of the year by Esquire and Vulture and recognized as a finalist for the PEN/Hemingway Award for Debut Fiction. It was adapted for screen in 2024 by writer and director by Marielle Heller, starring Amy Adams.

https://www.racheljyoder.com/

This episode weaves my own reflections on the themes of the book, with women’s voices from our Creative Magic book club, readings from the book and excerpts

January 8th - Womancraft Submission Zoom call – link here

January 9th- Feb 13th – submissions open at Womancraft Publishing – find out more.

January 13th – Creative Magic Book Club – Magic Maker by Pam Grossman – sign up here

January 20th Free Multi-Passionate Creative class – sign up here

Feb 10th  - The Multi-Passionate Creative and The Multi-Passionate Entrepreneur, starts, early birds to Jan 30th. Find out more...***

We talked about:

Creative mothers – the inherent struggles

What we cannot talk about – the experience of motherhood and

Writing new stories – our own stories

Mothering in patriarchy

Mammalian mothering

Maternal rage

Identity – loss of, finding it again through creativity

Extended Episode just $3 at www.patreon.com/lucyhpearce

A deeper dive into identity

The public body of mother and the artist’s need for time alone and secrecy

Maternal inheritance and our maternal ancestors

The feeling of loss of time and career

Wanda White – the author of the book in the book!

Want more?

A full episode of my second conversation with Sarah Detweiler is available on the $6/9 dollar Patreon tiers.

At this level you can also join us for future book clubs

www.patreon.com/lucyhpearce

Resources

Nightbitch

The Rainbow Way

The Artist’s Way

All Fours

Burning Woman

Moods of Motherhood

Crow Moon

Motherhood Until Yesterday

I’m a Writer But…

About Rachel Yoder

Named a best book of the year by Esquire and Vulture and recognized as a finalist for the PEN/Hemingway Award for Debut Fiction. It was adapted for screen in 2024 by writer and director by Marielle Heller, starring Amy Adams.

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A brief look at all the creative magic coming up in January

January 8th - Womancraft Submission Zoom call – link here

January 9th- Feb 13th – submissions open at Womancraft Publishing – find out more.

January 13th – Creative Magic Book Club – Magic Maker by Pam Grossman – sign up here

January 20th Free Multi-Passionate Creative class – sign up here

Feb 10th  - The Multi-Passionate Creative and The Multi-Passionate Entrepreneur, starts, early birds to Jan 30th. Find out more...***

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A seasonal round up from Lucy – her highlights of Season 4 and looking ahead to our next Between the Seasons Book Specials.

As well as snippets from a festive conversation with friend of the pod, witchy author, Sarah Robinson as we share how we celebrate Christmas and some of our favourite Christmas traditions – all things mince pies, cranberries and Christmas trees.

In the Extended Episode – there’s oodles more from just $3/ month on Patreon

We talk Christmas wreaths

Hygge

Plus bonus Seasonal extracts from the book that we co-authored – The Kitchen Witch Companion.

Resources

Join the Book Club on Patreon

The Kitchen Witch Companion

Sarah’s autumn episode – Magical Wanders

Pam Grossman’s episode

Womancraft Publishing Submissions

Sign up for my new free class: The Multipassionate Creative

About Sarah

Sarah Robinson is the best-selling Womancraft Publishing author of multiple books on magic and witches including: Yoga for Witches (now in French, Chinese, Polish and Farsi), Yin Magic, Enchanted Journeys, The Kitchen Witch Companion, The Witch and the Wildwood and Womancraft Publishing’s fastest selling pre-order ever, Kitchen Witch: food, folklore and fairy tale. Her newest book Witch Country: Seeking the Witch in the British Landscape is out on October 31st.

A yoga teacher and author based in in Bath, UK. Her background is in science; she holds an MSc Psychology & Neuroscience and has studied at Bath, Exeter and Harvard universities. She is host of the Witch Country podcast.

You can listen to Sarah’s popular episode from Season 1 of Creative Magic – Let’s All Run Away and Live in the Woods, and learn from her and myself in the Weaving Magic with Words epsidoe in Season 3, as well as discvoer some of her favourite books in a bonus episode on Patreon – for $6/ month.

Join her for her Masterclasses live on Zoom on October 29th and November 5th.

Find Sarah online:

Website: www.sentiayoga.com

Instagram: @Yogaforwitches @thisiswitchcountry

Podcast: Witch Country

Insight Timer: Enchanted Journeys with Sarah Robinson

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Dr Tracy Breathnach is an Irish author, speaker and somatic performance artist, based in the UK, exploring heart-centred living and loving. The main themes of her work are intimacy, authenticity and aliveness. She has worked extensively across arts, community and education settings, primarily in the UK for over 25 years, as well as now offering transformational coaching and mentoring to clients around the world.

In November 2025, she launched her first non-fiction book called In Other Words Love, Learning to intimately love our lives. The material is also offered as an e-course available online: Words for Love.

Tracy’s practice as research PhD (University of Aberystwyth, 2018) explored identity, narrative and trauma in autobiographical birth-storytelling. Following this she developed a project called ‘Birth Café’ with People Speak Up in west Wales to create a space for women to share their birth stories from their bodies.

Tracy is a highly experienced freelance consultant in Culture, Health and Wellbeing and most recently worked as the Programme Manager for Wales Arts, Health & Wellbeing Network. She has led on the award-winning Wales-wide artists’ wellbeing programme How Ya Doing? for WAHWN, as well as several arts programmes for staff wellbeing in health boards.

www.tracybreathnach.com

FB: https://www.facebook.com/trebreathnach

Insta: http://www.instagram.com/trebreathnach @trebreathnach

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-tracy-breathnach-13113133/

To buy the book In Other Words Love: https://amzn.eu/d/e0sGyUS

We talked about

Soul friends - anam cara.

The soul path and following your bliss

Trauma and agency

Surrender, creativity and birth

Law of Attraction

Writing her book

Being a writer who loves feedback and sharing via performance

In the Extended Episode - 2 hours long

Working together teaching Burning Woman

Soul and masking

Resourcing – what it is, how it works and how to do it

How we can set ourselves up for peace and creativity in the midst of the current political and economic climate

Resources

Burning Woman

Medicine Woman

Benedict Cumberbatch

Gina Martin

Her new book, In Other Words Love

Jules Heavens

Joan Davies

NLP

IEMT

Authentic Movement

Mary Daly

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Essie Jain is an English singer and songwriter, who has been performing and recording music for over two decades. Her songs have traveled far and wide out into the world and gently weaved themselves into the fabric of people’s lives, daily healing practices and stories. She has almost 600K monthly listens on Spotify.

Essie often works alongside her husband, guitarist and long term collaborator Patrick Glynn, for both recordings and live performances. They live in Los Angeles with their daughter Opal.

Most recently, Essie and Patrick made an album of folk songs together, The Rose In Bloom, which was released on March 7th, 2025

Her website Instagram

Essie on Spotify

We talked about:

·      Holding space for people’s responses to our work and boundaries

·      Creative collaboration with our partners

·      Music and healing

·      Making a living as a creative

·      Founding an indie label

In the extended episode just $3 on www.patreon.com/lucyhpearce we talked about:

·      How creativity prepares us for the challenges of parenting

·      Betting the house on your creativity

·      Channelling the energies of death into music

Resources Mentioned

Creatrix: she who makes

Big Magic – Liz Gilbert

Songs Featured in this Episode

O, I Love You – from Until the Light of Morning

I’m Not Afraid of the Dark– from Until the Light of Morning

The Healing from As I Return

The Blessing from As I Return

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Pam Grossman is a writer, curator, and teacher of magical practice and history. She is

the host of the internationally beloved podcast, The Witch Wave and the author of

Waking the Witch and What Is A Witch. Her newest book, Magic Maker- The Enchanted Path to Creativity has just launched. She is also co-editor and co-author of the

Witchcraft volume of Taschen’s Library of Esoterica series. Her writing has appeared in

numerous media outlets, including The New York Times, The Atlantic, TIME.com, and

many more. She divides her time between Brooklyn and the Western Catskills

alongside her husband and their two feline familiars.

www.pamgrossman.com

Instagram @phantasmaphile

Podcast – The Witch Wave

We talked about:

Women and surrealist art

Occulture

Her podcast, The Witch Wave

Capitalism and magic

Being visible as a witch

Being taken seriously by the mainstream media when talking about magic

Witchcraft - The Taschen Anthology

Her new book Magic Maker

Archetypes of magic – Witch, Magician and Magic Maker

Why creativity is vital now

In the Extended Episode – just $3 a month on www.patreon.com/lucyhpearce

We dive deeper into capitalism and magic, bring the Taschen anthology of Witchcraft to life, women artists who are just coming into mainstream awareness and the work of Amy Hale bringing forward the work of Ithell Colquhoun.

Resources

Amy Hale – Creative Magic Episode

Artists mentioned:

Leonora Carrington

Remedios Varo

Hilma af Klint

Ithell Colquhoun

Agnes Pelton

Gertrude Abercrombie

Leonore Fini

Pamela Colman Smith

Waking the Witch

Magic Maker- The Enchanted Path to Creativity

Witchcraft volume of Taschen’s Library of Esoterica series – ed. Jessica Hundley

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Sangu Mandanna is a British–Indian author of adult, young adult, and middle grade fiction. She is best known for her fantasy romance novels The Very Secret Society Of Irregular Witches and A Witch's Guide To Magical Innkeeping.

We talked about:

• Whimsy and cosy fiction
• The magical books that made her
• Her writing process
• Her publishing journey
• The difference between writing for YA, children and adult readers.
• Writing inclusive characters
• Belonging and community
• Writing sex scenes

In the Extended Episode www.patreon.com/lucyhpearce

• We dive deeper into neurodivergence, being seen and invisibility
• As well as an additional extract from The Very Secret Society Of Irregular Witches

Join us for the Creative Magic book club www.patreon.com/lucyhpearce

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Sarah Robinson is the best-selling Womancraft Publishing author of multiple books on magic and witches including: Yoga for Witches (now in French, Chinese, Polish and Farsi), Yin Magic, Enchanted Journeys, The Kitchen Witch Companion, The Witch & the Wildwood ,

and Womancraft Publishing’s fastest selling pre-order ever, Kitchen Witch: food, folklore and fairytale. Her newest book Witch Country: Seeking the Witch in the British Landscape is out on October 31st.

A yoga teacher and author based in in Bath, UK. Her background is in science; she holds an MSc Psychology & Neuroscience and has studied at Bath, Exeter and Harvard universities. She is host of the Witch Country podcast.

You can listen to Sarah’s popular episode from Season 1 of Creative Magic – Let’s All Run Away and Live in the Woods, and learn from her and myself in the Weaving Magic with Words episode in Season 3, as well as discover some of her favourite books in a bonus episode on my Patreon – for $6/ month.

Join her for her Masterclasses live on Zoom on October 29th and November 5th. Find out more at Womancraft Publishing

Find Sarah online:

Website: www.sentiayoga.com

Instagram: @Yogaforwitches @thisiswitchcountry

Podcast: Witch Country

Insight Timer: Enchanted Journeys with Sarah Robinson

We talked about:

The Season of the Witch – whether it’s over commericalised and what it means to us

Time release magic

Social media, performance and authenticity

The importance of digging for roots

Balancing whimsy and the dark history of witch hunts.

The place and witch that impacted her most as she researched Witch Country

Some of our favourite good witches from 20th century film

In the extended episode – over 15 mins of extra content just $3 on www.patreon.com/lucyhpearce we talked about:

The backstory as to why Sarah is “friend of the pod”

Apple magic

Real world social media content making struggles

Witch marks – what they are and how to find them.

An extra extract from Witch Country

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Crowned ‘the defender of female awesomeness’ by Cooler magazine, everything Lisa creates is an invitation home to yourself. To your voice, your rhythms + your own reality.

A reality that’s remembered + respelled by you.

She writes, teaches + shares in the sweet spot between feminine philosophy, sensual creativity + personal myth-making. Her work is rooted in the depth of Hélène Cixous, the erotic truth-telling of Anaïs Nin + the accessible ritual of Julia Cameron’s The Artist’s Way.

She is the best-selling author of Witch, Code Red, Love your Lady Landscape, Self Source-ery + Venus.

www.lisalister.com/

Instagram @sassylisalister

Join us for the Creative Magic Book Club www.patreon.com/lucyhpearce

Today we talked about:

The Importance of Writing and Telling Our own stories

Cyclical intelligence

Her mutism as a child

The witch wound – women being silenced down through lifetimes, ancestral fear of speaking out

Being seen – and discernment as to who we share our skills with

Creating the most magical version of ourselves that our soul most longs for

Navigating paradox

EDS (hypermobility) and magical women

Neurodivergent women and masking

Publishing and self-publishing

Being too much

Prolific

Women in creative process

Join us for a deeper dive in the extended episode – just $3 on www.patreon.com/lucyhpearce

Where we get raw and real, and share our personal experiences of publishing and self-publishing

An extract from her book, Witch.

We mentioned

Womancraft Publishing

Code Red

Love Your Lady Landscape

Witch

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Lisbeth Cheever-Gessaman is the artist and illustrator of "The Divine Feminine Oracle", The Spellcasting Oracle” and “The Sutras of Unspeakable Joy”. She is a visionary artist who merges magick and technology with traditional mediums to create new interpretations of myth and archetype. Through her work she explores shamanic, astrological and mythological constructs to interpret the liminal worlds of the Divine Feminine, incorporating art and talisman to create a third phenomenon, or magical reality. Her art was included in Witchcraft - Taschen and features in The Divine Feminine Oracle that she created along with Meggan Watterson, on the covers of The Mistress of Longing and Gina Martin’s Daughters of the Goddess series.

In honor of the Great Mother, and as personal witness, she creates all work under the pseudonym "SheWhoIsArt".

www.etsy.com/shop/SheWhoIsArt

Website: www.shewhoisart.com

Facebook: facebook.com/shewhoisart

Instagram: @shewhois

We talked about

The soul in art

Art as a vessel for the sacred

Sacred Feminine perspective on current events

Feminine representation in the Bible and why it goes untaught

Her work with Megan Watterson on the Divine Feminine Oracle.

Her artmaking process – creating light

Symbology of the Feminine

Finding and trusting the real in this post-truth world

In the extended episode – over 45 mins of extra content just $3 on www.patreon.com/lucyhpearce we talked about:

Perimenopause and menopause – wise woman insight

Migraine and creativity

Symbology – the Alphabet vs the Goddess

Ancient women cave painters

Her twinkle box

AI as a creative and business tool

The female roots of modern Western abstract art

Her religious background

Facebook and IG jail

Balancing our creatrix and business parts

Resources

Burning Woman

The Woman’s Dictionary of Symbols and Sacred Objects

Discover Your Inner Symbols – Masterclass

The Alphabet Versus the Goddess: The Conflict Between Word and Image 

Women Who Run With the Wolves and Mother Night – Clarissa Pinkola Estes – listen to our Creative Magic special on Women Who Run with the Wolves

The Holy Wild: A Heathen Bible for the Untamed

The Great Cosmic Mother

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