It's time for part two of our conversation about abolition. Listen as Aaron and Damien discuss the second half of We Do This 'Til We Free Us: Abolitionist Organizing and Transforming Justice by Mariame Kaba, and examine the idea of what justice could be beyond our current criminal punishment system, the principles of abolition, harm, and accountability, what should be centered in activism and organizing work, and how an abolitionist framework can help us envision a better world for all of us. 

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