Crimes, Killers, Cults and Beer: A True Crime Podcast

Tonight, we start the 4th and final episode in the unplanned Wisconsin Cheese Binge, with part 1 of Ed Gein, the Butcher of Plainfield.

We cover his upbringing with his religious fanatic of a mother, who sheltered him, abused him, but made him view her as some kind of divine figure. We also cover the deaths of his parents, and the likely murder of his brother, the 2 murders he is known to have committed, and the discovery of the hideous scene at his house.

We’re also starting a Beer of the Week segment with Sandra’s husband, Doug doing the honors. This segment is at the end of the episode.

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This episode of CKCB is brought to you a day early by Hurricane Helene. We wanted to make sure that we got the episode out in case we lose power on Thursday, the 26th because this is a biggun!

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Episode 2 of the Wisconsin Cheese Binge! Tonight, we’re covering Thad Phillips, and Joe Clark, The Bonebreaker Killer. Joe Clark was a sicko who had aspirations of becoming a serial killer. He killed a teenager named Chris Steiner, by kidnapping him, and forcefully breaking his bones. He died of internal bleeding, and Joe dumped him

Note...This episode was originally done very early on, but the audio tracks were out of synch.

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Hey, everyone.. We’re going to Wisconsin to cover a really sick individual named Steven Zelich. He was a sadistic killer, who took BDSM a little too far, and his online screen name was Mr Handcuffs. He was a cop in Wisconsin, who lost his job because of multiple complaints from women, specifically strippers about him stalking them.

But, he soon amped up his routine, grooming women to come to him from other parts of the country to be dominated, and controlled by him.

He was very specific in what he wanted these women to do before coming to him. He basically had them erase themselves from society.

One day, 2 suitcases were found on the side of the road, and they both contained a dead woman. Great police work both by the actual police, and an internet sleuth friend of one of the victims led the police to Steven Zelich, and once the DNA evidence was uncovered, there was literally nothing he could say in his defense.

So, join us on this amazing case about how great police work, and a killer’s stupidity saved the lives of other potential victims.

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We are BACK, baby! With a brand new co-host! Sandra is the new CKCB co-host. She is simply amazing!

We're covering a serial killer doctor, Michael Swango. Dubbed by his college medical school classmates, working on actual patients as Double 0 Swango, License to Kill, he slipped through the cracks because he had the highest body count of any other student.

But, that didn't stop him from becoming a doctor on an internship, as well as an ambulance medic, where he began poisoning his coworkers food and drinks. Before too long, the jig was up, and he fled to Zimbabwe, where he continued his murderous habit. Ultimately, he was brought to justice, but this is a crazy story.

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Hey, everybody...Bill here. I’m once again without a cohost. I’ve decided to take a break until I find a new one. Shouldn’t take too long. I’ve been told by a couple other podcaster friends that I don’t need a cohost, and that I can do it solo. I appreciate the vote of confidence from them. It means a lot, but I really like bouncing things off of people. Shout out to Jessica from TTC and Ash

I’m still going to be writing episodes during this break, so when I come back, I’ll have at least 4 episodes ready to go. I’m also going to be working on my book.

Anyway, this shouldn’t take too long, and in the immortal words of The Terminator, I’ll be back. And, until next time, Later

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The second interview I’ve done with a cult survivor. Richard Kiers, who I talked about in Episode 118, The Movement of God cult. He fills in the details on his story, and he’s written a book about his experience. We also discuss cults in general.

It was a great interview. His book is a very good read, and you can get it here:

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Tonight, we’re going back to the Canada binge, and episode 104, the Insane Canadian Cult, His Rest Christian Fellowship, led by sadistic cult leader, Rima Ailing. She was horrible. I recommend you go back and listen to that episode before listening to this one, if you haven’t yet.

But the story didn’t end when Ep 104 did. It went on for another 20 years, and I’m joined tonight by Desti, who was born into this cult to the Haywards, who talked about (Not very nicely) in Ep 104. She is Nate’s little sister.

She bravely tells her story about growing up in the cult in its second chapter, and in many ways, the second chapter was worse than the first. BUT, this story has the most satisfying end of any cult story I’ve ever heard.

Desti is amazing, and I admire her. So, once again, buckle up for an insane story, but at least this one has a happy ending.

Part 1: https://www.ckcbpodcast.com/104-insane-canadian-cult-his-rest-christian-fellowship/

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Joining us tonight on CKCB is Todd, of the Grinding True Crime Podcast. We’re covering the Word Of Life Christian Church cult, led by Jerry and then Tiffanie Irwin. It was located in Chadwicks NY, and it was a particularly nasty cult, with all the trappings of one of the craziest. And it escalated as time went on, gradually getting worse and worse, until things exploded in 2015 with the brutal and

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Hey, everybody….I’ve done something that I regret. A couple months ago, I released an interview with Peter John Ross, who made a documentary called Social Media Monster. I watched the doc, and I was sucked into the story. I did the interview a day or two later. The doc is very well made, and the subject of the doc is Matthew Berdyck.

Matthew contacted me several times, asking to tell his side of the story, and I ignored him. He wasn’t tearing up my social media, or trolling me online, like you would expect him to do after watching the doc. I started thinking that this wasn’t fair.

But, one of my OG listeners messaged me, saying that she also didn’t think it was fair in a case like this to only present one side, especially with Matthew requesting to come on. I love my listeners. They keep me honest.

That made me feel even worse about it. Like if someone made a documentary that painted me in a negative light, You can bet I’d want to tell my side of the story. And to be ignored when I tried to tell my side mof the story would have really pissed me off.

I do not have a dog in this fight, and this isn’t me taking a side. This is me being fair as a TRUE CRIME podcaster to both parties involved, and in the future, I won’t be doing that type of feature again, where I’m forced to either take one side, or have both parties on. I have nothing against Peter John Ross, although if I had thought more about it when he contacted me, I probably would have declined

So, here with me today to tell his side of the story is the subject of the documentary, Matthew Berdyck.

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