Laura Richards and Lisa Zambetti continue their conversation with Tonia Bales, John Meehan's first wife of 10 years. 

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the discussion about The People vs. O.J. Simpson. Jim Clemente, Laura Richards and Lisa Zambetti analyze the disastrous handling of Nicole's 911 call

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Liz recalls going to the sentencing of James and Donovan Cloud, seeing the faces of the men who took Josiah’s life, and the cavalier almost jocular attitude of the courtroom. As Laura says, Josiah’s case was used as a bargaining chip for prosecutors to secure a plea deal for one of the offenders. Liz also describes her shocking treatment post sentencing by the district attorney’s office and their public complaint department representative who told her “she was not a victim”.

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Interview with Liz Hilderbrand. She explains trying to come to terms not only with her son Josiah’s murder but with the actions of the justice system to erase her son’s existence from a multiple homicide. 

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In the early 90s, a wealthy magazine publisher was convicted of fraud and sentenced to 18 months in a minimum security prison in Louisiana. But white collar criminals weren't the only people living there, and the other people inside had basically been forgotten about by the outside world, some of them for decades.

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In 2018, we talked with three of America’s most experienced trauma surgeons about what happens when someone is shot.

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She also talks about all the evidence that links Josiah’s murder to the offenders who murdered five other people in White Swan, a remote area on the Yakama Indian Reservation and her frustration that authorities did not include Josiah in their case against the suspects James and Donovan Cloud.

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His remains were found off the side of a highway in rural eastern Washington state after he was murdered on his way to a concert. Liz describes the excruciating moment of seeing what was left of her child. 

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We continue our interview with Liz Hilderbrand who tells us what it was like waiting fourteen agonizing months to finally find her son Josiah. His remains were found off the side of a highway in rural eastern Washington state after he was murdered on his way to a concert.

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For nearly a century we've been trying to read someone's truthfulness by the way they act. Be it through machines, or our own intuition. The police have tried. The FBI has tried. The CIA has tried. But the fact is… most of their efforts just don't work.

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