In this episode, we invited Dan's close friend Jônatas Chimen to speak with us about the art world. If you are an artist or in the marketing/creative industry, you have to watch this episode! Jônatas is a Brazilian-American Symbolist artist, author, academic, and public speaker. Jônatas started by explaining how his inspiration came from his own family's history of migration, adaptation, and cultural hybridization. He said it really well: I understand "urgency" in life, that one day my flesh will go back to the dust, but my art will outlive me. To answer Nathaniel's question about novelty art and how to value art, Jônatas said that scarcity and rarity are very powerful. He told us the famous Miami "taped a banana to the wall and sold for $300,000" story. It's quite an "American phenomenon" that out of nowhere, one can suddenly call themselves an "artist" and sell a piece at such an unexplainable price. It rewards "hype", but not "depth." Jônatas stressed the importance of creating your own narrative, like Picasso, Andy Warhol etc. As Jônatas said, being a good artist is not enough, you need to know how to present and promote your work to succeed.