Cross Connections

Cross Connections

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  • Ezekiel Part 1: Wondrous Visions in Exile

    In today’s episode the hosts dive into the first half of the Book of Ezekiel, exploring its vibrant imagery, historical context, and theological significance. The discussion covers Ezekiel’s background as a priest in the Babylonian exile, the radical idea of God’s presence with the exiled people, and the shift from communal to individual responsibility in Israel’s relationship with God. The hosts also unpack Ezekiel’s dramatic visions, prophetic sign acts, and the challenging metaphors used throughout the text.

    Key Topics Discussed:

    • The historical context of Ezekiel: Babylonian exile, the fall of Jerusalem, and his priestly background.
    • Ezekiel’s unique perspective as a priest and prophet in exile.
    • The importance of context when interpreting Ezekiel’s fantastical language and visions.
    • The radical message that God is present with the exiles, not just in Jerusalem.
    • The shift from communal to individual responsibility for sin and righteousness (Ezekiel 18).
    • The significance of Ezekiel’s visions: wheels within wheels, four faces on the creatures, and their symbolic meanings.
    • Prophetic sign acts: Ezekiel’s theatrical demonstrations of God’s judgment.
    • The metaphor of Jerusalem as an unfaithful spouse and its implications.
    • The role of the Holiness Code and priestly tradition in Ezekiel’s theology.
    • Reflections on the suffering of ordinary people during exile and the tension between communal and individual consequences.
    • Preview of the second half of Ezekiel including: judgment against other nations and then the prophecies of restoration.

    Don’t miss our video series on the Tabernacle and the Glory of God, part of our expanded Cross Connections content available on our website or on our YouTube channel.

    Cross Connections is a ministry of ⁠⁠St. David’s Episcopal Church in Wayne, PA⁠⁠. Season two, Cover to Cover, is hosted by the Rev. Rick Morley, Elliot VanHoy, and Natalee Hill.

    A full copy list of readings for 2025 may be found on ourwebsite at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://stdavidschurch.org/crossconnections⁠⁠

    ⁠If you have questions for us, you can call us at 484.588.5656 and leave a voicemail with your name, where you’re from, and your question or comment. Please note, we may use your recorded voice in an upcoming episode of Cross Connections. You can also email us at ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠.

    Logo graphic design and podcast production by Natalee Hill.Stock Media Music provided by Marscott and MoodMode / ⁠⁠Pond5⁠⁠.

    You are welcome to learn more about all of St. David’sworship offerings and ministries at ⁠⁠ ⁠⁠https://stdavidschurch.org/⁠⁠.

    1 hr 6 min
  • Lamentations: Ancient Poetry to Deal with Communal Grief

    On today’s episode, our hosts dive into the Book of Lamentations, exploring its historical context, literary structure, and enduring relevance. The discussion opens with reflections on the book’s placement in different biblical canons and its association with the prophet Jeremiah, while also noting scholarly debates about its true authorship.

    The hosts examine Lamentations as a work of poetry, specifically an acrostic poem, and discuss its communal function in processing trauma and grief. They highlight how the book is used in both Jewish and Christian traditions, such as during the Jewish observance of Tisha B’Av and Christian Holy Week services like Tenebrae.

    Key Themes and Discussion Points:

    • The historical backdrop of the Babylonian destruction of Jerusalem and the plight of those left behind.
    • The literary form of Lamentations, including its acrostic structure and polyvocal narration.
    • The communal and artistic purposes of lament, both in ancient times and today.
    • The theological journey from orientation, through disorientation, to reorientation—a schema attributed to Old Testament scholar Walter Brueggemann (see his book Praying the Psalms).
    • The influence of process theology, referencing Alfred North Whitehead’s Religion in the Making (available free online), and the idea of God as void, enemy, and companion.
    • The absence of explicit covenantal language in Lamentations, contrasting it with other biblical texts.
    • The genre of city laments in the ancient Near East, with specific mention of the Sumerian “Lament over Ur” (translation available via the University of Chicago).
    • The impact of translation choices on interpretation, with examples from Lamentations and Job.

    Referenced Books and Materials:

    • "Praying the Psalms" by Walter Brueggemann
    • "Religion in the Making" by Alfred North Whitehead (free online)
    • "The Crucified God" by Jürgen Moltmann
    • The Sumerian “Lament over Ur” (University of Chicago translation)
    • Netflix’s animated musical "K-Pop Demon Hunters"

    Don’t Miss:

    • The clergy’s upcoming Sunday morning forum series at St. David’s in February/March of 2026, focusing on Holy Week liturgies.
    • The “Walking the Mourner’s Path” program for those experiencing grief.
    • The new Cross Connections digital formation ministry six-part video series, “Where is the Glory,” with the Rev. Rick Morley, filmed at a St. Anthony’s Coptic Orthodox Monastery in California.

    Cross Connections is a ministry of ⁠⁠St. David’s Episcopal Church in Wayne, PA⁠⁠. Season two, Cover to Cover is hosted by the Rev. Rick Morley, Elliot VanHoy, and Natalee Hill.

    A full copy list of readings for 2025 may be found on ourwebsite at ⁠⁠⁠https://stdavidschurch.org/crossconnections⁠⁠If you have questions for us, you can call us at 484.588.5656 and leave a voicemail with your name, where you’re from, and your question or comment. Please note, we may use your recorded voice in an upcoming episode of Cross Connections. You can also email us at ⁠[email protected]⁠.

    Logo graphic design and podcast production by Natalee Hill.Stock Media Music provided by Marscott and MoodMode / ⁠⁠Pond5⁠⁠.

    You are welcome to learn more about all of St. David’sworship offerings and ministries at ⁠⁠ ⁠https://stdavidschurch.org/⁠.

    1 hr 2 min
  • Jeremiah Part 2: The biggest story in the Bible

    On today’s episode, The Rev. Rick Morley and Elliot VanHoy try and muddle through the second half of the Book of Jeremiah as Natalee Hill is on vacation.

    Rick begins by putting the whole of the Old Testament in the context of the Babylonian destruction of Jerusalem and the subsequent captivity. Although it is the most prominent story in the Hebrew Bible, it is generally lost in the modern consciousness.

    They talk about how the Old Testament as a whole, and the prophets in particular, are trauma documents, written with Babylon looming large. Isaiah deals with it by giving warnings and hope, Jeremiah spend a lot of time on warnings, and Ezekiel uses it as an opportunity to say that God is with us even in the hardest of times.

    Elliot brings us Heschel’s book, “The Prophets” because he was struggling with the depiction of the anger of God.

    They note that the only reference to the New Covenant in the Old Testament is in the Book of Jeremiah, and how that shows that the judgement of Jeremiah does not end there, but propels the story forward.

    Rick tells the story of his job at a wilderness residential treatment center for troubled boys, where if the boys didn’t chop enough wood, they suffered the consequences of being cold. Jeremiah is like this, for it show the Babylonian Affair as being the real consequences of their actions in breaking the covenant with God.

    Elliot and Rick also struggle with a wood chipper running outside the window, and muse how Jeremiah can kind of be like a wood chipper sometimes…

    Also noted in this episode:

    • The Spanish artwork mentioned by Rick - Ecce Homo (García Martínez and Giménez)
    • Elliot’s Clergy letter from last Friday, August 22nd
    • Elliot’s sermon from July 27th on Genesis 18
    • N. T. Wright’s “Surprised by Hope”
    • Jürgen Moltmann’s “The Crucified God”

    Cross Connections is a ministry of ⁠⁠St. David’s Episcopal Church in Wayne, PA⁠⁠. Season two, Cover to Cover is hosted by the Rev. Rick Morley, Elliot VanHoy, and Natalee Hill.

    A full copy list of readings for 2025 may be found on our website at ⁠⁠https://stdavidschurch.org/crossconnections⁠⁠

    If you have questions for us, you can call us at 484.588.5656 and leave a voicemail with your name, where you’re from, and your question or comment. Please note, we may use your recorded voice in an upcoming episode of Cross Connections. You can also email us at [email protected].

    Logo graphic design and podcast production by Natalee Hill. Stock Media Music provided by Marscott and MoodMode / ⁠⁠Pond5⁠⁠.

    You are welcome to learn more about all of St. David’s worship offerings and ministries at ⁠⁠ https://stdavidschurch.org/.

    1 hr 18 min
  • Jeremiah: The Weeping Prophet

    On today's episode...The Rev. Rick Morley returns from vacation, and we get to hear some of his takes on the prophets generally before we jump into Jeremiah specifically.

    Rick reminds us that all three of the major prophets’ books – Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel – are all in some ways trauma documents, since they are all dealing with the Babylonian exile.

    We remind ourselves of when these prophets were living and aligned them with the Kings found in 2 Kings, which we discussed back in April. We look at the composition of Jeremiah – the longest book of the Bible by word count – and how it may have been organized literarily. It is not as clearly delineated as Isaiah, and that makes for a bit of a difficult read.

    We discuss that Jeremiah is either a student or a teacher of the Deuteronomistic Historian – you can see that theology reflected throughout the text. We discuss an interesting scholarly hypothesis of who that historian might have been, and his relationship to Jeremiah. We continue to talk about where in the language you can find these hints. We also note the contrast with much of the language of Isaiah.

    We then spend some time discussing the dominant metaphor in Jeremiah of God as like a husband and the people of Judah/Israel like an unfaithful wife. We discuss why it may have resonated at the time, but also why it is problematic. There are many other metaphors found in our scriptures, including within Jeremiah itself.

    As we discuss the prolific metaphors in Jeremiah, we’re also given examples by Elliot of places where those same metaphors reappear in the New Testament writings. This is something to look forward to noticing when we go through the New Testament later this year. Elliot mentions his sermon on The Widow’s Mite, which you can listen to here.

    Rick then poses the question of why Jeremiah is not the one so often quoted in the New Testament and why Christian theologians and artists have so preferred Isaiah? We share our different theories before Elliot then asks how we deal with the strong judgements in the earlier sections of Jeremiah. Natalee especially appreciates the distressing effectiveness of a particular metaphor. Rick helps us think through human nature in our response to those sections as well. All of this brings us to a conversation on the difficult and dangerous road of any prophet, and what it takes to make a person truly a prophet. (Hint: it’s not speaking into your own echo chamber.) We close in a conversation on what it is to preach into a specific community – the challenges of being in community and sharing the word that those people need to hear.

    PS: Natalee laughs at the end not at the fall of Jerusalem itself, but at the prospect of "enjoying" reading about it.

    Cross Connections is a ministry of ⁠⁠St. David’s Episcopal Church in Wayne, PA⁠⁠. Season two, Cover to Cover is hosted by the Rev. Rick Morley, Elliot VanHoy, and Natalee Hill.

    A full copy list of readings for 2025 may be found on our website at ⁠⁠https://stdavidschurch.org/crossconnections⁠⁠

    If you have questions for us, you can call us at 484.588.5656 and leave a voicemail with your name, where you’re from, and your question or comment. Please note, we may use your recorded voice in an upcoming episode of Cross Connections. You can also email us at [email protected].

    Logo graphic design and podcast production by Natalee Hill. Stock Media Music provided by Marscott and MoodMode / ⁠⁠Pond5⁠⁠.

    You are welcome to learn more about all of St. David’s worship offerings and ministries at ⁠⁠ https://stdavidschurch.org/.

    1 hr 4 min
  • Isaiah Part 2: The Promise of Something New

    Today, the Rev. Tanya Regli returns as we venture into Second and Third Isaiah. Written down 100 to 150 years after the first section of Isaiah, these parts refer more to the Babylonian exile, and even hint at the return to Jerusalem after that exile.

    We’ll give you a reminder of the context for this writing and that while we (modern Christians) see Jesus in all of these, that’s not what was thought of them originally, and we have to respect both views. You’ll find Isaiah used by the New Testament writers and Christian theologians to point to Jesus and we note how impressive is it that the New Testament writers knew this literature so well.

    We comment on the power of metaphor throughout Isaiah, including a particular fondness for maternal language metaphor.

    Tanya introduces us to the Servant Songs in Isaiah – they are the call given to “the servant” to follow God. We find in them that God is extending the promises beyond Israel to all the nations – “A light to the nations.”

    Cyrus of Persia makes an appearance – shockingly referred to as the Lord’s anointed, meaning messiah, a title elsewhere reserved for Israelites. Tensions continue in our scriptures about the balance between being a people distinct from others around and the inclusion of other nations into God’s covenant. We refer to our episodes on Ezra and Nehemiah for contrasting content. In the scriptures and today, we’re constantly reviewing what it means to follow God – what does God require of us? We see in Isaiah a move from God’s ritual requirements (ritual cleanliness) to God’s justice requirements (ethical cleanliness).

    Elliot introduces us to eschatology – a fancy word meaning to talk about the last things. We bring up the end of Isaiah and its vision of a new heaven and a new earth and compare that to what is written of John’s vision in Revelation.

    We discuss the misconception that the God of the Old Testament and the God of the New Testament are different Gods. You can really see the full divine redemptive mission even here.

    We talk about how to identify a false prophet or an idol based on some of the language in chapter 58 – the kind of fasting I have chosen….We talk about how we’re called to be people of justice, healing the world around us as part of our worship – not just to offer thanks and praise, but to act in ways that bring peace and justice. And that we cannot do it solo – we must do it with one another and with God. We also note that God will not do this God’s self; we are asked to actively take a part in it as covenantal relationship. We get into how that turns our call into being repairers of the breach – those who heal up the wounds of the world, break down walls, and build bridges. Elliot mentions an organization of that same name, founded in 2015 by the Rev. Dr. William J. Barber II.

    We close reminded of the call we’re given, the mercy God extends, and the life we keep trying to live into.

    Cross Connections is a ministry of ⁠⁠St. David’s Episcopal Church in Wayne, PA⁠⁠. Season two, Cover to Cover is hosted by the Rev. Rick Morley, Elliot VanHoy, and Natalee Hill.

    A full copy list of readings for 2025 may be found on our website at ⁠⁠https://stdavidschurch.org/crossconnections⁠⁠

    If you have questions for us, you can call us at 484.588.5656 and leave a voicemail with your name, where you’re from, and your question or comment. Please note, we may use your recorded voice in an upcoming episode of Cross Connections. You can also email us at [email protected].

    Logo graphic design and podcast production by Natalee Hill. Stock Media Music provided by Marscott and MoodMode / ⁠⁠Pond5⁠⁠.

    You are welcome to learn more about all of St. David’s worship offerings and ministries at ⁠⁠ https://stdavidschurch.org/.

    1 hr 1 min
  • Isaiah Part 1: An Introduction to the Prophets

    On today's episode...

    We jump into the Prophets, the final section of the Hebrew Scriptures in our Bible, beginning with Isaiah.

    Our guest this week is the Rev. Tanya Regli, associate rector at St. David’s. After a brief introduction to Tanya, we talk about this section of the Bible, including a reminder of the function of prophets in our scripture. We’ll cover the historical framework of Isaiah itself, the three sections scholars break it into, and the context of when it was written.

    We talk about the major themes in Isaiah, especially the two important words in Hebrew: mishpat (justice) and tsedaqah/tzedakah (righteousness) which we understand together today to refer to social justice.

    We discuss how the audience for Isaiah’s writing is mostly the people in power, but also to some degree all the people of Israel. We also discuss that the blessings God offers through Isaiah’s words is open to all nations, not just Israel. We’ll also spend some time on Isaiah’s call to be a prophet, and what is unique about it. (Don’t forget to do your own search of “Biblically accurate angels” images.)

    You’ll find much of Isaiah quoted in the New Testament, and many passages will sound familiar to you. Notice, but don’t get too caught up in them because 1) we want to appreciate the original context and 2) you might get stuck in Isaiah for a long time. Also, if you’d like to hear a better version of “The Messiah” than Natalee’s attempt, check out St. David’s Choir singing it at the Messiah concert in December 2024.

    Don’t forget to refer back to some of our previous podcast episodes which relate to today’s: 1 + 2 Samuel, 1 + 2 Kings, 1 + 2 Chronicles, and Matthew episodes.

    At the end, during our speed round of questions for Tanya she named (one of) her favorite book(s): “Things Fall Apart” by Chinua Achebe.

    Cross Connections is a ministry of ⁠⁠St. David’s Episcopal Church in Wayne, PA⁠⁠. Season two, Cover to Cover is hosted by the Rev. Rick Morley, Elliot VanHoy, and Natalee Hill.

    A full copy list of readings for 2025 may be found on our website at ⁠⁠https://stdavidschurch.org/crossconnections⁠⁠

    If you have questions for us, you can call us at 484.588.5656 and leave a voicemail with your name, where you’re from, and your question or comment. Please note, we may use your recorded voice in an upcoming episode of Cross Connections. You can also email us at [email protected].

    Logo graphic design and podcast production by Natalee Hill. Stock Media Music provided by Marscott and MoodMode / ⁠⁠Pond5⁠⁠.

    You are welcome to learn more about all of St. David’s worship offerings and ministries at ⁠⁠ https://stdavidschurch.org/.

    57 min
  • Song of Solomon/Song of Songs: Self Love and Mutual Love

    On today's episode...

    We discuss the Bible’s steamiest book, which was apparently a controversial inclusion in our scriptures (along with Proverbs and Ecclesiastes).

    How are we supposed to understand this very erotic literature as a part of our scriptures?

    Is this story just about Solomon and a lover he particularly adored, or is this possibly an allegory for our relationship with God? We also talk briefly about how we in the modern, western, American world can be a little prudish. We wonder whether the ancient peoples for whom this was first written would have been as squeamish around this text. We don’t come to a solid conclusion, so hear the arguments and we leave it to you to consider further.

    Elliot points us to some knowledge from Ellen Davis’s, “Getting Involved with God” – a book we’ve mentioned in previous weeks – indicating that desire used only twice in the Bible: In Genesis and then here in Song of Solomon. How is it used in each instance? Could the turning of Genesis on its head, a move that creates equality, be the real controversy?

    We talk about the ways in which the people in this story not only experience mutuality, but that each indicates their own self-worth. Could Song of Solomon be a resource for a healthy romantic sexual ethic?

    Those of us in The Episcopal Church often still have difficulty talking about intimate relationships and sexuality. Elliot brings up a great resource on the history of the church and sexual ethics and morals that he found on The Episcopal Church website. Specifically, he reads to us General Convention Resolution GC 2000-D039 from the 73rd General Convention in 2000.

    Cross Connections is a ministry of ⁠⁠St. David’s Episcopal Church in Wayne, PA⁠⁠. Season two, Cover to Cover is hosted by the Rev. Rick Morley, Elliot VanHoy, and Natalee Hill.

    A full copy list of readings for 2025 may be found on our website at ⁠⁠https://stdavidschurch.org/crossconnections⁠⁠

    If you have questions for us, you can call us at 484.588.5656 and leave a voicemail with your name, where you’re from, and your question or comment. Please note, we may use your recorded voice in an upcoming episode of Cross Connections. You can also email us at [email protected].

    Logo graphic design and podcast production by Natalee Hill. Stock Media Music provided by Marscott and MoodMode / ⁠⁠Pond5⁠⁠.

    You are welcome to learn more about all of St. David’s worship offerings and ministries at ⁠⁠ https://stdavidschurch.org/.

    30 min
  • Ecclesiastes: Life is a Mystery

    If you know nothing else about Ecclesiastes, you know chapter three thanks to The Byrds .

    Was it written by Solomon? Nope. We’ll explain why we know.

    We talk about how the writer of Ecclesiastes seems to be in direct conversation with the writer of Proverbs. We also talk about how Proverbs would be “bad news” with its simple answers about death and suffering, where Ecclesiastes feels more realistic, true to life, than Proverbs.

    At the time this was written there was very little understanding of a presence of God individually. There was also no concept of heaven or hell or any kind of afterlife, only Sheol — which sounds a bit like the Greek concept of Asphodel — where people go when they die. The text is pessimistic but also invites more moderation rather than hedonism.

    Despite the differences from Proverbs, Ecclesiastes still isn’t a satisfying answer to the question of death, the injustices of life, or about how to live in hope. So, what’s the mature response? Both Proverbs and Ecclesiastes are at their core talking about issues of justice and righteousness. Jesus is the Christian answer, as a prophet and sage. Listen in as Elliot begins to form his (unofficial) thesis on this.

    We also talk about Erik Erikson’s stages of development. The final stage is integrity vs. despair, and Ecclesiastes seems to be someone who fell to despair. This episode refers to Rick’s sermon on the Fruit of the Spirit from June 29th, and a few more cultural references including Madonna (the singer) and the movie, “Dazed and Confused.”

    Cross Connections is a ministry of ⁠⁠St. David’s Episcopal Church in Wayne, PA⁠⁠. Season two, Cover to Cover is hosted by the Rev. Rick Morley, Elliot VanHoy, and Natalee Hill.

    A full copy list of readings for 2025 may be found on our website at ⁠⁠https://stdavidschurch.org/crossconnections⁠⁠

    If you have questions for us, you can call us at 484.588.5656 and leave a voicemail with your name, where you’re from, and your question or comment. Please note, we may use your recorded voice in an upcoming episode of Cross Connections. You can also email us at [email protected].

    Logo graphic design and podcast production by Natalee Hill. Stock Media Music provided by Marscott and MoodMode / ⁠⁠Pond5⁠⁠.

    You are welcome to learn more about all of St. David’s worship offerings and ministries at ⁠⁠ https://stdavidschurch.org/.

    36 min
  • Proverbs: "Common Knowledge" about Lady Wisdom

    Today we discuss the book of Proverbs which consists mostly of line after line of aphorisms – wisdom sayings (perhaps, common knowledge?). While it is mostly saying after saying, sometimes even ones that conflict with one another, there is a structure to it.

    The early part of the book frames this book as predominantly the wisdom of Solomon, passed along and written down later by others. The book is written in the format of a parent or teacher to a child (specifically a son) or a student.

    Of the Hebrew scriptures, this book is not really mentioned in the Gospels and New Testament. This is at least in part because it was one of the latest books added to the scriptures. We discuss why this is the least favorite book of both Rick and Elliot, mostly for its simplistic view of the world that doesn’t hold up to lived life.

    We spend some time discussing “the fear of the Lord/God” and the ways in which fear is understood in the Bible in various ways. Mostly in Proverbs we are dealing with awe and reverence rather than terror or horror.

    Rick discusses that Wisdom (Greek: sophia) is personified as a woman, who was present for and active in the creation. In our episode on the Gospel of John we talked about the Logos and you’ll note the similar language used to talk about Jesus the Christ. This is particularly interesting because it raises the question: are “sophia” and Christ one and the same? Elliot notes that some interesting debate about the nature of God can be found in Rick’s sermon from Trinity Sunday, when he talked about the anniversary of the Council of Nicaea. Rick notes that Proverbs 8 was used as a proof text by both sides, Arius and Athanasius, in the major arguments during that Council.

    As we begin to close out, Elliot makes a recommendation of very approachable book about the Old Testament, “Getting Involved with God” by Ellen F. Davis.

    Davis is also a resource for another writer brought up at the end of the episode. Natalee brings up the 31st and final chapter of Proverbs, and in particular “the Proverbs 31 woman”. We talk about how this particular section of the Proverbs is not attributed to Solomon, but rather to King Lemuel's mother. The text describing the Woman is an Hebrew acrostic poem – which we cannot tell in our English translations. Natalee notes the writings of Rachel Held Evans writings on Proverbs 31 woman found in the book, “A Year of Biblical Womanhood” as well as on Rachel’s blog.

    Interestingly, Rachel Held Evans grew up in the town where the Scopes Monkey Trial was held in 1925 (100 years ago this month even!) and wrote about that in her book, “Evolving in Monkey Town” which has since been renamed, “Faith Unraveled: How a Girl Who Knew All the Answers Learned to Ask Questions.” You can find more at https://rachelheldevans.com/.

    And with that, we come to the proverbial end of the line. *wink*

    Cross Connections is a ministry of ⁠⁠St. David’s Episcopal Church in Wayne, PA⁠⁠. Season two, Cover to Cover is hosted by the Rev. Rick Morley, Elliot VanHoy, and Natalee Hill.

    A full copy list of readings for 2025 may be found on our website at ⁠⁠https://stdavidschurch.org/crossconnections⁠⁠

    If you have questions for us, you can call us at 484.588.5656 and leave a voicemail with your name, where you’re from, and your question or comment. Please note, we may use your recorded voice in an upcoming episode of Cross Connections. You can also email us at [email protected].

    Logo graphic design and podcast production by Natalee Hill. Stock Media Music provided by Marscott and MoodMode / ⁠⁠Pond5⁠⁠.

    You are welcome to learn more about all of St. David’s worship offerings and ministries at ⁠⁠ https://stdavidschurch.org/.

    38 min
  • Job: Does suffering have a point?

    On today's episode...

    Today we talk about the Book of Job, starting with a quick chat on where the book came from, and what we know about its piecemeal composition. You’ll notice that the text starts and ends with prose and has a middle section of poetry. These sections were not all written at the same time.

    Why was Job written, what is the major question it is here to answer, and how does it answer this question? How is Job’s answer in tension with the other answers offered both in our Wisdom literature and the other scriptures we’ve read through so far and upcoming?

    What or who exactly is the cause of Job’s suffering? In our discussion we briefly review the origins of Satan, suggesting a book of the same name: “The Origins of Satan” by Elaine Pagels.

    We get into the ways that Job’s friends deal with his suffering and a discussion on how we can deal with the emotions of suffering when we encounter it – especially the grief of others. Rick offers a resource, a book by Megan Devine called “It’s okay that you’re not okay.” Elliot also mentions an article by Parker Palmer on the “On Being Project” called “The Gift of Presence, the Perils of Advice.”

    We get Rick’s favorite quote, Elliot points out the most sarcastic phrase in the Bible, and then we wonder – but does this story solve the problem of evil and suffering? And do we find this scripture satisfying in its answers?

    Quick correction – we’re actually 36 episodes in, not 34! Whew, that went fast!

    Cross Connections is a ministry of ⁠⁠St. David’s Episcopal Church in Wayne, PA⁠⁠. Season two, Cover to Cover is hosted by the Rev. Rick Morley, Elliot VanHoy, and Natalee Hill.

    A full copy list of readings for 2025 may be found on our website at ⁠⁠https://stdavidschurch.org/crossconnections⁠⁠

    If you have questions for us, you can call us at 484.588.5656 and leave a voicemail with your name, where you’re from, and your question or comment. Please note, we may use your recorded voice in an upcoming episode of Cross Connections. You can also email us at [email protected].

    Logo graphic design and podcast production by Natalee Hill. Stock Media Music provided by Marscott and MoodMode / ⁠⁠Pond5⁠⁠.

    You are welcome to learn more about all of St. David’s worship offerings and ministries at ⁠⁠ https://stdavidschurch.org/.

    1 hr 9 min

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