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Cross Examining Cyber EP6: Cross Examining Andrew Penn - Part 2


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In this episode, we finish our cross examination of Andy Penn, previously CEO of Telstra and more recently the Chair of the Government’s Expert Advisory Board . The conversation just gets better...
Andy makes some insightful comments about the similarities between our physical world and our digital world, and how this should guide our measure of success. We also take a closer look at the Cyber Strategy, the value in placing responsibility on those best placed to take responsibility, what does "good" look like, the value in managing data holdings, threat sharing / locking, the benefit of transparency and reporting (rather than banning extortion).
Andy also makes some incredibly relevant (and sobering) observations on the impact that compute power and quantum computing will have on our security settings (“…a Y2K event when don’t know the date…”).
Finally, I ask Andy “what makes a great lawyer”? Luckily, we come out of that question relatively unscathed.
This is Episode 6 of our podcast series. Cross examining Andy Penn. Here we go…
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