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In Beyond Hope: Rabbinic Eschatology of Late Antiquity in Comparative Perspective (Oxford UP, 2026) Jenny Labendz addresses distinct patterns within rabbinic eschatology that have been overlooked in scholarship and in Jewish thought. Contrary to what is usually expected of eschatology, this book demonstrates that the rabbis held a sustained eschatology of irresolution. While the rabbis occasionally waxed poetic along the lines of a perfected new world in the eschaton, a vast store of rabbinic texts depicts a deeply imperfect eschaton. This is the profound difference between rabbinic and early Christian eschatology.
Despite its differences from the Christian doctrine of perfection, rabbinic eschatology aligns neatly with a different Christian concept, namely inaugurated eschatology. The eschaton is not only be hoped for in the future, but can be attained in the present. The best of all possible worlds has not yet been entirely actualized, but it has been inaugurated, in the rabbinic view by the exodus from slavery in Egypt, the revelation of the Torah at Sinai, and the construction of the Tabernacle in the wilderness. This is a paradigm shift for thinking about rabbinic eschatology, which rejects the dogmas and binaries that generations of scholars have taken for granted.

In this new book, Jenny Labendz explores the relationship between this world and the best possible world, the limits of that best possible world, and asks a crucially grounding question--what are we talking about when we're talking about the end of the world?

Interviewee: Jenny R. Labendz received her PhD from the Jewish Theological Seminary in 2010 and was Associate Professor of Religious Studies at St. Francis College until 2025. She is also the author of Socratic Torah: Non-Jews in Rabbinic Intellectual Culture, published by Oxford University Press in 2013.

Host: Schneur Zalman Newfield is an Associate Professor of Sociology and Jewish Studies at Hunter College, City University of New York, and the author of Brooklyn Odyssey: My Journey out of Hasidism and Degrees of Separation: Identity Formation While Leaving Ultra-Orthodox Judaism. Visit him online at ZalmanNewfield.com.

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What will heaven be like? Does everyone go there? Grammy-nominated singer and beloved television host, Sheila Walsh, shares from her new book, The Hope of Heaven: How the Promise of Heaven Changes Everything. Sheila shares why what we believe about heaven shapes how you live today! If you’re looking for encouragement, or a fresh glimpse of God’s love for you and your family, Sheila shares the incredible hope we have in Jesus Christ.
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Most Christians would never dream of breaking the Ten Commandments—except, perhaps, one: “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.” Why has the fourth commandment become the one modern believers feel comfortable ignoring? Is Sabbath rest just an antiquated Old Testament burden—or could restoring it be the antidote our over-stressed homes desperately need?

This week, Catherine welcomes back Dr. Steven Hall, a minister with nearly four decades of experience, associate professor of pastoral ministry at Lee University, and executive director of the Paul L. Walker Center for Pentecostal Preaching. An expert in biblical studies, pastoral counseling, and spiritual formation, Dr. Hall guides listeners through a rejuvenating look at the biblical roots and modern relevance of Sabbath rest.

Key Episode Takeaways:

• A Forgotten Commandment
  Catherine challenges listeners to reconsider the importance of Sabbath, noting how its neglect is rarely discussed or even recognized—despite its place alongside commandments against murder and adultery (00:37).

• Why We Keep Breaking It
  According to Dr. Hall, our American hustle-culture and pipeline lifestyle lead us to run on empty—constantly pouring out, never filling up. “Capitalism based on consumerism has no room for rest,” he asserts, explaining why so many parents are exhausted and soul-weary (09:12).

• Sabbath: More Than Just a Rule
  The conversation reframes Sabbath not as a restrictive law, but as a pre-fall creation principle—woven by God into the fabric of human flourishing (as outlined in Genesis 1 and 2). “Humans were designed to work from rest, not rest from work,” Dr. Hall emphasizes, challenging a work-first, rest-later cultural narrative (25:24).

• Awareness Before Obedience
  Catherine and Dr. Hall draw parallels to hidden sins, like the anecdote of Alexandra who unknowingly broke biblical commands before learning the truth. The episode encourages parents to move from ignorance to understanding, and to teach their children the same (16:21).

• The Sabbath as a Mark of God’s People
  Referencing Isaiah 56, Catherine points out how Sabbath-keeping was key to belonging for outsiders—all while remaining a powerful cultural counter-sign today (38:09).

• Not Legalism, but Life-Giving Rhythm
  Dr. Hall and Catherine reveal how Jesus didn’t abolish the Sabbath, but restored it as a gift for our wellbeing, not a heavy burden (45:25).

• A Pandemic of Hurry
  Drawing on John Mark Comer and other modern thinkers, the episode exposes the epidemic of “hurry sickness” ravaging our homes and hearts, stealing the very love we’re called to pour out on our families (35:19).

• Practical Application Awaits
  Look ahead to next week’s episode, where Dr. Hall will unpack “micro-Sabbathing”—real-life strategies for busy parents, caregivers, and those in nontraditional jobs who wrestle with the practicality of setting aside an entire day (46:54).

Notable Quotes:

“Humans were designed to work from rest, not rest from work.” – Dr. Hall
“If the devil can’t make you bad, he’ll make you busy... because if he can make you busy, he can make you tired, and when you’re tired, he can make you bad.” – Dr. Hall (23:02)
“The Sabbath was never intended to become another heavy burden. It was designed to lift our burdens.” – Catherine

About the Guest:
Dr. Steven Hall brings decades of ministry experience, academic expertise, and a passion for spiritual formation. He currently teaches at Lee University and leads Ministry Oasis, fostering soul health among Christian leaders and families.