Peter Saint-Andre works on Strategic Partnerships at Mozilla. He shares his perspective on WordPress and what "Open Web" means. We talk about creativity and accessibility, risks and opportunities for both WordPress and the Open Web, the importance of democratizing commerce, and the role of community. Also, Peter shares a personal story about Matt.

We discuss the acquisition of Restrict Content Pro by iThemes, the ecosystems being built by WP Engine, GoDaddy, and Liquid Web, and our sense that no one is doing it well - yet.

WordPress is our go-to tool for building new sites, in part because it doesn't restrict creative expression. Even if that means we can publish horrid designs. In this episode, we discuss the idea of an ugly web, and whether the future of WordPress will make the web more self-same, or even uglier?

Marieke van de Rakt, CEO of Yoast joins the discussion. We talk about Yoast, advertising mistakes, growing a plugin business, and the opportunity for a WordPress "App Store".

We talk about the recent controversy over the WordPress app in iOS. Luke expresses his frustration about Automattic's ownership of the app and we discuss the challenges of contributing to funded "Open Source" projects.

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Ryan Singer, Head of Strategy at Basecamp, joins us to talk about his book, Shape Up. Luke loves the book. Jonathan, apparently, has a "problem" with it. Ryan shares his perspective on WordPress and we discuss how the concept of shaping could work for the WordPress project.

We discuss our conversation with an upcoming guest, premiering later this week. Then we jump into the release of P2, which we're both excited about, and Luke laments its currently non-public code base.

Matt Mullenweg's review of the new Unsplash WordPress plugin has made waves. Who doesn't love a little #WPDrama? We skip the licensing issue and instead discuss whether a one-star plugin review is the right way for a leader, and maybe a competitor, to express their concern.

From time to time, we might address a little bit of Crossword meta. A quick update from us on getting in touch and the fifteen minute limit.