In this episode, Luke and Jonathan discuss the role of WordPress themes in 2023, how block themes and the Full Site Editor have changed the landscape and where the line between themes and plug-ins should be. They also reflect on their current projects.

In this episode Luke and Jonathan talk about the ramifications of cloning the WordPress Plugin repository onto WordPress.com. How to do it in a way that keeps plugin developers onside, and as a bonus, Jonathan read the whole Terms of Service so you don't have to.

In this episode Jonathan and Luke discuss the latest round of #WPDrama after WordPress.com cloned the WordPress.org plugin repository.

In this episode Luke and Jonathan disagree on who is to blame for intrusive ads inside of the WordPress admin Dashboard. They also cover some of the best practices and motivations of plugin developers, plus how to stop annoying the users.

In this episode Luke and Jonathan explore the complex world of WordPress plugin security and what really happens when a vulnerability is identified. The system could be better, but how do we fix it?

In this episode Joshua Wold fills in for Jonathan, discusses plugins, the value of good design in the onboarding process and what makes a strong product founder. Luke tries to bait him with comments about developer supremacy, but Joshua never took the bait.

In this episode Luke and Jonathan discuss their early WordCamp experiences and which is the best of the major WordCamps. They also discuss the latest news about the upcoming WordPress admin interface.

In this episode Luke and Jonathan share their vision for what open source business practices could look like. Jonathan even disagrees with Luke on wage transparency for no apparent reason. 

Luke and Jonathan talk about the highlights of WordPress 6.3, the steady transformation from blogging platform to operating system and the need for a contributor focused event in similar fashion to Apple's WWDC.

Luke and Jonathan break into the new season talking about WordPress hosting, conflicts of interest, the importance of onboarding and the products that do it well (Luke also seems to have no idea what season we are recording).