In this episode of the Phoenix Cast, hosts John and Kyle are joined by special guests Josh Stiefel and LTG (ret) Edward Cardon, the architects of CSIS’ Cyber Force project. 

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Links:

CSIS announcement:  https://youtu.be/f-u_P9yp6AI?si=ykRebsVoEtFC3BkP

CSIS 16 Sept panel:  https://www.csis.org/events/launch-commission-us-cyber-force-generation

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