Welcome to the TBC Classic podcast where it's not my opinion that counts - but yours! Each episode Josh chats with the WoW Classic community on the issues surrounding The Burning Crusade. Former TBC dev Shawn Carnes agreed to sit down with me for an interview.  I warned him that interviews with me tend to.....run a little long.  4 beautiful hours later, this is what we wound up with. Get comfy on your couch, crack open a cold beer, and drink along with Shawn and I as we take a trip down memory lane with one of the more interesting gaming careers out there.  We touch on TBC, vanilla WoW, Magic: The Gathering, the WoW TCG, and League of Legends over the course of this two part interview.  Enjoy these first two hours today and come back for more in a few days time. This is not the greatest interview in the world, no. This is just a tribute. Time Stamps: 4:30 Magic: The Gathering 23:15 Meeting the WoW team + Mentors 32:10 Alex Afrasiabi 35:40 Jeff Kaplan 38:45 Memorable Quests 45:00 The Infamous Blizzard Defenestration 46:55 TBC Work 49:30 Kevin Jordan 55:20 Designing the intro on Sunstrider Isle 57:55 Thoughts on the effect that TBC had on the staff and the game 1:11:25 Working with Chris Metzen 1:19:05 Beer Break and Shawn’s Magical Sydney Story Support Josh & Countdown today over at Patreon, including bonus 'Countdown After Dark' podcast content: https://www.patreon.com/joshcorbett Or if subscriptions aren't your thing, support Josh & Countdown by shouting him a one time beer here: https://ko-fi.com/countdowntoclassic Follow Shawn on Twitch here: https://twitch.tv/babashareshow Join the show's discord here: https://discord.gg/83thqw2fBw  Subscribe to our TBC subreddit here: https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwowtbc Listen in on live recordings for the show on Josh's Twitch channel here: https://www.twitch.tv/joshcorbett Check out Josh's hilarious movie podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-sinner-files/id1290218344 or on Spotify here: https://open.spotify.com/show/469qUDnQHBkCogdjZyFUjb?si=jNgDTiEnSvKBbZuNz2xcxw