Curious Cat - where science & supernatural collide

It's always a treat to catch up with author, Terry Persun. We sat down to talk about Backrooms and went deep, quick. From the need to grow empathy muscles to create believable fictional characters to changing bad moods to AI thievery to advances that are bringing higher quality of life to many. 

If you know of a cool technical or scientific advancement, email Terry at Entertainment Engineering! You may be featured. 

*Also, no, Jenn did not lose Jesse like Bobby from Backrooms. Jesse is thriving, taking time to rewrite his fiction novels, maybe dabbling in some new screenplay writing projects, and can be found on Substack talking with friends about physical media, movies, TV, and more. 

Entertainment Engineering

Terry Persun's LEE CHASE books on Amazon

 CU-Led Project Targets Osteoarthritis Reversal, Human Trials by 2028

 The retainer that is a mousepad:

https://www.augmental.tech/

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Rain DeGray is a writer/photographer/educator and her new project is, well, here's Rain describing it, "Am starting a new photography project, something I have never tried before, and will be documenting it here as I go. Gone back to the land. Expect many trees and much sky." 

***If the subject of AI triggers you, please skip ahead to the 18:00 minute mark***

Topics Include

• Living better now than Aztec royalty
• Rain's current project
• What motivated her to move back east
• Working with her unique and exquisite brain
• Her process - which sometimes means a commitment of a year or more
• "If I'm not making, it throbs like a tooth."
• The security loophole
• Substack project - POD book incoming
• Delving into abandoned spaces
• The doll. The doll. The doll
• Television is a binky
• Younger generation is OVER fake BS
• Cottage core
• A hopeful message to end on

Links to Rain's Work:

Rain DeGrey on Substack

Her Deliberate Disconnection website!

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Well, Jesse and Jenn's friend, Pete, known as Blue on socials, stopped by to talk about the liminal and it was such a mind-blowing conversation! The topics veered from goddesses to working with stars and planets to experiences we've had with time travelers. 

We love Pete, and if you are new to him, his energy is authentic fire. He has classes available for FREE on YouTube and has an active TikTok and Substack that is fantastic. We already cannot wait to have him on again, but in the meantime, we will, like you, listen again to this juicy and inspiring conversation!

Find all of Pete’s links to classes, books and more here...

Blue Collar Spiritualist website

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Our recent conversation with Daniel Rekshan was unforgettable. In fact, the synchronicities, the general flow, and the subjects we covered had Jesse pretty much gobsmacked for the bulk of the hour. Jenn would label this one an instant classic, and hopes you find it worth a listen and a share and maybe even a five-star review!

Daniel Rekshan writes about himself and his creation, D-SETI;

"I’m the founder of D-SETI. I’ve had lucid and strange dreams of aliens all my life, feared it was alien abduction, then discovered through dreamwork and academic research that the common, yet often unacknowledged, phenomenon of shamanic dreaming. I hope that D-SETI Dreamwork can help provide you insight and transformation about your dreams, nightmares, and extraordinary experiences. If you have had dreams of ETs, experiences of the extraordinary, and D-SETI inspires you or intrigues you, please feel free to get in touch with me." 

Here are some of the topics we covered:

Dreaming

Missing Time

APORTS

Aliens/ET encounters 

Shamanic dreaming

Dualism

Liminal spaces and the discomfort that comes with them

The Custodians by Delores Cannon

Use of AI

And Daniel's new book that is in the works now!

Plus:

Body markings

Collective dreaming

The Bodhisattva path

The Morrigan

Shamanic funks

D-SETI Dreamwork - The Dream Search for ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence!

Dreamwell app 

Guest Links:

Daniel's MAIN website - D-Seti.org

Write to Daniel direct (and share a photo of any skin markings) - [email protected]

Find Daniel on YouTube HERE

Other Links:

Daniel Rekshan, Arcane Research Society

Books by Daniel Rekshan, Goodreads

Daniel Rekshan on Instagram

Delores Cannon's The Custodian, Amazon

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The Morrigan has come into my life this last year. Sightings of giant ravens, power that I mine in my anger and hurt, potent enough to scorch a path to healing. She is known to be difficult to work with, and I shouldn't say 'she' it is they. The Morrigan is a title. As I have been studying about this Irish goddess, I've learned The Morrigan is many in one, and probably one of the most misunderstood deities in history. 

I am currently reading a book on The Morrigan titled, Priestess of the Morrigan by Stephanie Woodfield. I know I am fated to read this book because yesterday two things happened that showed up in the pages I would read in bed. 

First, I dreamt of running up and down a spiral staircase for exercise, stopping only to refresh my water bottle with ice chips. And on page 75 Woodfield writes about working with The Morrigan, channeling them in a trance saying, "It is like walking down a long spiraling staircase, each step taking you down deeper and deeper. One cannot skip from the first step to the bottom landing. 

Later in the day as I was running an errand, I was stopped at a traffic light. Above were hundreds of black birds. They were diving and swooping and circling as one mind, it seemed. Well, page 52 shares the dream one of her cohorts recorded, telling Stephanie, "Yes, you were singing. I told you, it's all sorts of strangeness. Macha was singing too. I wrote it down. You were singing about blackbirds– 

"They will help you if you let them 

A flock of blackbirds flying

A cloak of feathers on you

Bringing strength when times are trying"

When I was buying this book in a Denver witch store, the cashier told me to be careful, that working with The Morrigan is no joke. That's the kind of response they illicit. Early pages of the book I'd purchased, Priestess of the Morrigan, resonated. Here's the passage;

"There seems to be a general feeling that the Morrigan is angry all the time, always in battle fury mode. Always ready for blood. That this imagery must be the totality of her personality. I have been a priestess of the Morrigan for over 20 years now, and it still surprises me how often I come across these ideas, how superficially we view the gods. Still, after all this time, all we see is war in her, and even then, all we see is the romanticized ideal of war. Not the truth of it. Not the truth of her."

(the author feels one of the faces of the Morrigan stir in her and speak, saying, "I am more...I am so much more...Show them."

She writes, "When then reading is done, I still feel Badb's shadow upon me. Offerings are made at our makeshift hotel room altar next to the coffee maker, and I ask her why her children cannot see past this one face, one aspect of her. Badb speaks again:"

"'If you want war, I will give it to you. If you wish to fight endlessly, I will give you what you want, because you have asked me. I will fill your belly so full of blood that you will beg to see my other faces. The lesson will be as easy or as difficult as you wish it. Some will destroy themselves and never see me fully. It speaks to what you are, not to what I am."

Sources

Priestess of the Morrigan, Stephanie Woodfield (on Amazon)

https://medium.com/@jwrhoday25/the-morrigan-goddess-of-death-transformation-sovereignty-and-the-psychological-alchemy-that-59d791f9244b

JW Rhoday's article on The Morrigan, Medium

The Irish Morrigan, Goddess of Death and Guardian of the Dead, Druidry

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In my exploration of angels, there is an angel that has avoided being named to me until now. What I've been finding out is that he is the most misunderstood, shunned creature of God out there. With nicknames like, "Shadow of God" is it any wonder why this angel is surrounded by controversy. Is he a fallen angel? Or one of the Seraphim order doing God's work in secret? Did he in fact build the Ark of the Covenant?

Let's get into it. 

Bezaliel (Bez-A-liel) 101

First off, the basics.

I found this from Digital Bible, "Bezaliel, whose name is Hebrew in origin and means "Shadow of God," is often mentioned within esoteric and Jewish mystical traditions. If you've heard the phrase 'esoteric and mystical traditions' but couldn't define it, I found this. It is another way of saying 'mystery tradition' or the seeking of hidden or inner meaning. 

Back to the angel, or Shadow of God, at hand. While some sources suggest that he is a fallen angel, others propose that Bezaliel is an archangel who belongs to the order of angels known as Seraphim, famous for their six wings and their close proximity to God. 

In the grimoire "A Dictionary of Angels," writer Gustav Davidson includes Bezaliel as one of the many non-canonical angels. In some interpretations, Bezaliel is portrayed as an angel who fell from grace, although the specifics behind his fall are not elaborately explained. 

Seeking more information, I found it on YouTube.

Myth Cast from YouTube asks...

What if there was an angel so mysterious, so powerful and so hidden...that even Heaven and Hell don't fully understand him? Meet Bezaliel - the 13th Watcher and Angel of Shadows. 

In their short video linked in the show notes, they say that Bezaliel is mentioned as one of the Watchers, the 13th Watcher to be specific. Because of the nature of his work, he is not accepted in Heaven or Hell, and is begrudgingly envied by the other angels for the secret tasks he sets about doing for God, in the name of God. 

Mentioned in the Book of Enoch, a book banned from the conventional bible, he is a figure of great mystery and intrigue.

Show Sources:

Bezaliel, the Fallen Angel of Shadows, Myth Cast, YouTube

Bezaliel: The Intriguing Study of a Fallen Angel, Digital Bible

Bezalel (their spelling) on Wikipedia

The Complete Book of Enoch

Ark of the Covenant, Pastor Russell Mckinney's blog

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Bezaliel

In my exploration of angels, there is an angel that has avoided being named to me until now. What I've been finding out is that he is the most misunderstood, shunned creature of God out there. With nicknames like, "Shadow of God" is it any wonder why this angel is surrounded by controversy. Is he a fallen angel? Or one of the Seraphim order doing God's work in secret? Did he in fact build the Ark of the Covenant?

Seeking more information, I found it on YouTube.

Myth Cast from YouTube asks...

What if there was an angel so mysterious, so powerful and so hidden...that even Heaven and Hell don't fully understand him? Meet Bezaliel - the 13th Watcher and Angel of Shadows. 

In their short video linked in the show notes, they say that Bezaliel is mentioned as one of the Watchers, the 13th Watcher to be specific. Because of the nature of his work, he is not accepted in Heaven or Hell, and is begrudgingly envied by the other angels for the secret tasks he sets about doing for God, in the name of God.

Mentioned in the Book of Enoch, a book banned from the conventional bible, he is a figure of great mystery and intrigue.

More from Reddit:

His features are shrouded in darkness by a cloak that he wears at all times, and no method thus far has been able to reveal his face. He carries a sword that no one has ever seen him unsheathe, and a book that no one else has ever read, neither of which can be opened by any person besides him. Neither of these were present at the time of his fall, which confuses angels and demons alike.

Bezaliel can manipulate darkness, and he can make it tangible and very, very deadly. He can also summon shades and compel them to do his bidding. Lastly, he can teleport between areas of shadow, and become nearly invisible within them (though looking carefully enough will show that something is there).

Bezaliel speaks tersely, using few words and short sentences - not because he's stupid, but because he dislikes wasting time. He will serve any demon or human who can offer him a fair deal, but he also has a talent for making the other person regret it somehow.

Bezaliel's true goal is unclear to everyone else, as he has favored both Heaven and Hell at times. But it is clear that he has some plan, and that his actions have taken on a new urgency since the Hazbin Hotel opened, and IMP grew to a bustling business.

Show Sources:

Bezaliel, the Fallen Angel of Shadows, Myth Cast, YouTube

Bezaliel: The Intriguing Study of a Fallen Angel, Digital Bible

Bezalel (their spelling) on Wikipedia

The Complete Book of Enoch

Ark of the Covenant, Pastor Russell Mckinney's blog

 Art Bell, location of the Ark of the Covenant

Nick Cave, Mercy Seat, YouTube

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As your hiking boots air out on the back porch, take an audio hike with me into Canada's Cascades. Then, if you've got the nerve venture further north with me to a place nicknamed, "The Headless Valley."

Sources:

Nch'Kay' Great Flood Story, www.nchkay.com

North Cascades, Wikipedia

Peaks of the North Cascades, Northwest Alpine Guides

Mt. Garibaldi/Nch'Kay', Fire & Ice Aspiring Georegion

Teachings from Nch'kay' - The story behind the most notable peak in Garibaldi Provincial Park, Mountain Life Media

Unveiling the Mysteries of Black Tusk and the Garibaldi Volcano in British Columbia, Canada, YouTube

Sasquatch or Ridgewalker Pete?, CBC News

Funny Place Names of the North Cascades, The Squamish Chief

Meet the Ghosts of Whistler

The True Crime History Behind Nahanni National Park Reserve, Valley of the Headless Men, Red Web, YouTube

The Dark Atlas, Nahanni Valley, Canada

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I'm guessing if volcanoes of the Cascade Mountain Range was on Jeopardy, you'd be able to name Mount St. Helens, and maybe Mount Rainer or Hood. Most people, even Californians, don't know about Mount Lassen. In fact, as a longtime Washington and California girl myself, this one was new to me Until I dug deep into CASCADIA.

Overview of Native American History and Oral Tradition about Mount Lassen

Lassen Peak (the active heart of Lassen Volcanic National Park) was the meeting ground for four distinct Native American groups: the Atsugewi, Maidu, Yana, and Yahi. Their traditional stories and legends connect the volcano's dramatic thermal features and past eruptions to creation myths and powerful, living earth spirits.

Here are some specific histories, passed down by oral traditions;

The Mountain Maidu: Birthplace of the World

• Creation Site: For the Mountain Maidu, Mount Lassen was the reported site of the world's creation. Their legends tell of the World Maker creating the earth and the first people on the slopes of the snow-capped volcano. [1, 2]
• Population Spread: After creation, the first man and woman multiplied, and their descendants eventually populated the region, spreading out from the mountain toward the Sacramento Valley. [1]
• Modern Recognition: The Kohm Yah-mah-nee Visitor Center (meaning "Snow Mountain" in Mountain Maidu) honors this heritage

The Yana & Yahi: The Land of Wahkanopa

• A Sacred Counterpart: The Yana people referred to Mount Lassen as Wahkanopa, which they viewed as the offspring of Wahkalu (Mount Shasta). [1]
• Legends of Fire: Yana mythology contains extensive lore regarding the earth's heat and fire, often featuring Coyote, the Geese People, and the fiery action myths of a food-producing spirit woman who governed the abundance of the region

The Atsugewi: Guardians of the Northern Slopes

• Spiritual Inhabitants: The Atsugewi—often known as the Hat Creek Indians—lived primarily in the valleys surrounding the north and northwest of the volcano. Their traditions suggest the mountain was inhabited by a powerful spirit, yet they hunted the peak freely. [1, 2, 3]
• Thermal Healing: Unlike more fearful volcanic myths, the Atsugewi considered the hot springs surrounding Lassen to be beneficial and medicinal, deeply woven into their ancient history of the land. 

The Yahi

• Foothill Dwellers: The Yahi occupied the rugged foothills of Mill Creek and southern Lassen. Their stories and knowledge of the rugged upper country were vital for survival, a resilience famously embodied by Ishi, who was the last known survivor of the Yahi. (JH) I will share Ishi's story later, I promise. 

Tragedy for many Native People including the Konkow Tribe

Occasionally, the Konkow are referred to as the Northwestern Maidu. They lived along the Feather River and part of the Sacramento River in the area that is now Butte County.

In 1863, the newly formed State of California forced 11 tribes including the Konkow on a 100-mile death march, known as California’s Trail of Tears, to the Round Valley Reservation. Of 461 Indians who set out under guard, only 277 completed the 14-day trek.

Show Sources:

American Indian Tribes of Mount Lassen, National Park Service

Indian Tribes of California 1860-1900, Shirleen Davies

Ten (Surprising) Facts about Lassen Volcanic National Park, More Than Just Parks

Lassen Volcanic National Park, Wikipedia

Ishi in Two Worlds, Yahi People, A/V Geeks, YouTube

Nine Spooky National Park Sites, NPCA.org

The Bizarre Stories of Paranormal Encounters in Lassen National Park, Active NorCal

The Lassen Effect, Kallie Markle, National Parks Conservation Association

Listening for ETs in Lassen

https://www.abc10.com/article/entertainment/television/programs/lnt/listening-for-aliens-in-northern-california/103-551921437

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The conversation was so incredible that none of us had the heart to press the button.

In this segment, we talk about how Madia learned about bird-o-mancy (thank you Sam the Sky Guy for that moniker) and she took us through the history of this magic. Next we dwelled in the knowledge of Native American practices and asked if there's any such thing as a bad message when it comes to divination? Or are they cautions? 

We learned about The Emerald podcast and soared at cloud level, thinking of the broader perspective birds offer. Then Madia taught us to aura-dust, and before we wrapped, Jesse asked her if there was any spiritual rule she heard about or read about that just doesn't feel apt!

Please have a listen to all of the episodes. Madia is something special.

Special Guest Links

Madia on Substack

Madia's book, The Impractical Guide to Keeping Geese: How & why to raise the world's most underrated and unfairly criticized domestic bird

Madia on Instagram

The Emerald podcast

Animal Speak: The Spiritual and Magical Powers of Creatures Great and Small, Ted Andrews

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