For two siblings, love songs are off limits, so they write about loss, faith, and family instead.
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Ryan Williams and Kaylee Bowling caught up with Jason from opposite coasts, Ryan settled into Nashville's session-player world, Kaylee tucked into Washington's Olympic Peninsula finishing a graduate degree in theological studies. Ten years after their debut, the pair revisited Letters Kept to Ourselves for an anniversary re-release, adding a song they almost left off the record the first time around. They talk through the strange math of sibling harmony, the mother they lost and the song that became a way of carrying her, and the pub session in Ireland that convinced them this could actually be a band. What do you do with a shared history when you're no longer in the same room to write it?
๐ต The Native Sibling's latest: Letters Kept to Ourselves (10th Anniversary Edition, 2025)
โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome and New Year Check-In
0:41 Meet Ryan Williams and Kaylee Bowling of The Native Sibling
3:03 Kaylee's Single "Rest Is the Right" and Exploring Faith
4:00 Revisiting Letters Kept to Ourselves for the 10th Anniversary
8:08 Sibling Harmony and the Evolution of Their Voices
10:12 What the Album Means to Them Today
12:52 "Here With Me": A Song Written for Their Mother
16:38 The Challenges and Gifts of Making Music as Siblings
21:00 "Darkest of Night Skies" and the Spirit of Johnny Appleseed
25:49 The Irish Pub Where It All Started
28:55 Current Projects: Session Work and Grad School
33:42 Faith, Doubt, and Finding a Voice Beyond Certainty
42:40 Where They Want to Be as Artists
43:34 60 Seconds of Curiosity
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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.
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