This week Lara and Michael sit down with anti-zionist Israeli dissident, Ronnie Barkan who is currently facing trial in Bristol for smashing up an Elbit weapons factory. The factory was supplying weapons to the occupation to be used to murder innocent Palestinians. Ronnie talks about how Zionism is a cult, and we relive his journey to antizionism, how Israeli society is heavily brainwashed, fascist, and militarized society conditioned to accept and be complicit in committing crimes against humanity, with the exception of a handful of dissidents. We talk about how these waves of protests are not real allyship, and how zionists can only sense the vibes are off when the occupation starts to impact their daily life.