Okta's Zero Trust study.  What does it say about the market and the growth of ZT?  More cyber insurance shenanigans, why does this keep coming up?  Should we really use this "service"?  Water treatment plant is hacked in the UK, but is it really a clear case of compromise?  What happens if you try and send someone shit in a box (literally) and the service is hacked?  Is that a PII violation, or HIPPA or what?  How many devices are out there that are possibly exploitable right now (hint, it's a lot!).  Those questions and more on this episode.